RonD1120

That's a cop out, and you know it. Whatever, there's none here qualified/authorized to hold a rational investigation/discussion. Sorry, but I find it absolutely abhorrent that you hold the deaths of some people more important, based on your political leanings. Always amazes me how un-christan you are for a man who likes to talk about his faith so much. You do not know what you are talking about. This topic has nothing to do with Christian faith. And besides, you don't have a dog in this hunt. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

That's a cop out, and you know it. Whatever, there's none here qualified/authorized to hold a rational investigation/discussion. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

What makes these 4 more special than the thousands killed by Bush invading Iraq under false pretense? It's kinda like skydiving. If I have to explain, again, you won't understand, again. It's an American SPECOPS thing. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Total Bravo Sierra! She got her 0300 call and we know what happened. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

More correct to say, I got involved after the point where either the court or the family made the substance abuser realize the consequences of their using substances, including alcohol. The surrender to acceptance of addiction usually does not take place until after the individual has been in treatment for a few weeks. All of the facilities where I worked were structured to working on and accepting Step One of the Twelve Step Program. That is, "I admit I am powerless over _______ and my life has become unmanageable." The exception is court ordered outpatient treatment for misdemeanor offences such as marijuana possession or first conviction of other substances. Those programs are designed to help the client understand how they make choices. I never worked at a DUI school but they are similar as far as I know. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Yes it is. However, not everybody who drinks is an alcoholic. Here is a tool that I used during assessment. http://counsellingresource.com/lib/quizzes/drug-testing/alcohol-cage/ Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I understand, soldier on. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

There was a time when people could distinguish between the taste of Columbian, Mexican, Jamaican, Blonde, Panama Red, etc. So I'm told. And then along came Humboldt County Sinsemilla and...I don't remember. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

As a former substance use disorder counselor I have heard this statement many times during assessment of alcoholics. They often state they only drink to relax or they like the taste. It is the statement of an alcoholic in denial. Intoxication is being aware of the effect of the substance. If you drink one beer and not feel it you drink another and so on. If the effect/affect is not the purpose of consumption then drink non-alcoholic beer. Beer is plural, the only reason to drink it is to feel some level of intoxication. Alcoholism is defined not by the physiological or emotional affect but by health, employment, family or legal problems. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Who would've known? You can keep your plan and your doctor though. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Thanks Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Thank you for your service. I applaud you for stepping up and taking action in your state. Kudos to Andy9o8 for providing guidance and encouragement. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I think you are right regarding the postings in SC. I also think D22369 is right regarding DZ life. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Been tied up at work. Thanks for your answer. I have to say, though, that I am not clear on your meaning. Are you suggesting that curiosity and intelligence are a "blessing", but only if the answer one arrives at is always in conformity with the Bible? Yet, it would seem that any rational examination of those points that can be critically evaluated lead to a different conclusion than the Biblical one. For example, many lines of evidence from geology, biology, physics, chemistry, and astronomy all point against the universe being created in 6 days around 6,000 BCE. The evidence that the universe is a bit older than 13 billion years, and that the Earth itself is about 4 1/2 billion years old, comes from many avenues of inquiry that are independent of each other, yet all lead to the same result. In fact the Bible is notoriously poor as a science text, as it gets so many things wrong (flat Earth, Earth as the center of the universe, etc). Biblical science is, on the other hand, a good representation of a human Bronze Age level of sophistication. Personally, I think the current scientific view of the world is a lot more interesting from a spiritual point of view. Most of the atoms in our body were formed inside stars, and were released and/or created there in massive supernovae billions of years before the Earth was formed. Every living thing on the Earth is related, members of the same family tree, its branches dividing over an unimaginably long (but still quite measurable) history. These ideas seem vastly more appealing to me than the notion of a rabbit-out-of-the-hat one off trick of literally modeling Adam out of a lump of clay, and yanking out a rib to make Eve. Now, the fact that virtually all of the science in the Bible is demonstrably incorrect does not logically prove that the Bible is also incorrect on those more important points that can't be tested scientifically, such as the existence or not of God. Still it seems to me that there is a problem. If, in order to be a good Christian (in the eyes of some but not all versions of the faith, including Paul Broun's) you have to believe in the literal truth of every word in the Bible, then you have to believe that the universe was made in such a way as to lure the curious into a trap, as any objective, rational, intelligent examination of questions like "how old is the world", "is the world flat or round", "where does rain come from", etc would lead you into conflict with the Bible. The only way to escape the trap is to be so uncurious as to never ask such questions, or so irrational as to choose untestable mythology over scientific observation and experiment. From that perspective curiosity and intelligence are a curse, as they can only lead to error. Where is the blessing? When I lived in Tucson, on my way to work I passed a church with the slogan "Happiness is submission to God" on the wall. That seems to me to reflect well the attitude of Paul Broun and those of his ilk: don't ask questions, don't be curious, don't reason, don't even think. Just submit mindlessly and all will be perfect. Don I have no idea when the universe was created and really do not care. Your original statement and question was: I responded to the last sentence. Curiosity and intelligence are or can be the catalyst or motivation to understand the wonder of God's universe and His creations. Therefore it is a blessing. When that curiosity develops into the denial of almighty God as creator then it becomes a curse. We are all born into sin and condemned to eternal death, the eternal separation from God. We must repent and accept Jesus Christ as the propitiation and atonement for our sin. Arguments over when or how the the universe and the earth was created are a subterfuge. Jesus Christ is the path to eternal life with God the father and creator. I am content with that understanding. I am a counselor. I made an A in Earth Science in 1966 as a sophomore in college. I never gave it another thought after that. I am concerned with people who are suffering and want to change their lives. I like Paul Broun because he is an unabashed Christian and a pro-gun 2nd Amendment supporter. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I choose blessing that becomes a curse with ego centrism. It's a blessing as long as the knowledge does not call into question the existence of a god. What you call ego centrism is nothing more than a person who believes the evidence that contradicts your beliefs. That is what I call rebellion against the word of God. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I have a response for you but I am waiting on GeorgiaDon. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I choose blessing that becomes a curse with ego centrism. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Would you believe he is my representative? He has my vote next election. Which is precisely why the Republican party is aligned with religion. It makes it easy for them to get votes from the illiterate. A strategy developed during the Reagan era, which is one of the reasons the US has been consistently been going downhill since then. Paul Broun, MD is a scientist. WOW!Paul Broun is no scientist. Being a MD does not make one a scientist, any more than auto mechanics are engineers. MDs are technicians; the ones who also are researchers may be scientists, depending on the field of research. Paul Broun is the antithesis of a scientist, as he does not believe in the scientific method and, further, he believes that objective scientific inquiry will inevitably lead one to hell. He is also my representative (I guess that makes us sort of neighbors). Although he ran unopposed in the last election, I cast a write-in vote for "Charles Darwin". I guess you and I cancel each other out in the vote department. Don Son of a gun! Since I haven't actually voted in GA as yet and since I receive Paul Broun's newsletters I thought he was my representative. He is not, Doug Collins in my Congressman. He is also a strong Christian, Republican. Whew! I am still in good hands. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Would you believe he is my representative? He has my vote next election. I know you aren't, but you should be ashamed of the way you celebrate this kind of ignorance. Wearing ignorance on your sleeve is the new badge of honor for some. The intelligence of man is foolishness to God. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Would you believe he is my representative? He has my vote next election. I know you aren't, but you should be ashamed of the way you celebrate this kind of ignorance. See my post #26 above. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Would you believe he is my representative? He has my vote next election. Which is precisely why the Republican party is aligned with religion. It makes it easy for them to get votes from the illiterate. A strategy developed during the Reagan era, which is one of the reasons the US has been consistently been going downhill since then. Paul Broun, MD is a scientist. WOW! Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Would you believe he is my representative? He has my vote next election. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I guess it's a good thing that I don't make a living out of the interwebs... As Wayne Dyer once said, "Learn to be free of the good opinion of others." Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I am blessed. They sound jealous.

I am blessed. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.