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I just wanted to make sure what I said wasn't misconstrued. We should all be giving money to this great cause. I know I've donated several hundred dollars myself and hope everyone out there does too. We should find reputable organizations and give generously. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

I know you were replying to the post and your reply belongs in the speakers corner not the bonfire. What you are choosing to debate doesn't follow the rules of this forum. Political talk and debates take place in the speakers corner. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

I think he was getting at the rules of this forum and the topics that are discussed here. Your post takes the tone of the speakers corner not the bonfire. Posts made here aren't for political discussion, speakers corner for that. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

I think Blincoe and Sean have a throat mic and I'm not sure if you have to push to talk or not. I don't think you have to with these. Get in contact with one of those guys at Lake Wales. If I see them in the tunnle, I'll get the info and pass it on.

I'd stick to the topics in this forum and in this post. All of the other stuff should be taken care of in PM's. I'd make sure people ask for or want advice (or get advice they haven't known for months) before offering information. I've known what you've old me in the PM for months and if I'm gonna take advice about that stuff its coming from an experienced jumper, doctor, or PT I know in real life...... not you or someone from dz.com who don't have a clue, there are too many people out there who just don't get it. Unless you are a PT or doctor, don't offer advice for healing. Again you can't offer anything past face value or just offer information you have confirmed with someone else Esp. if it is someone in my situation who already knows just about everything that I am supposed to be doing to be able to jump again. The stretching is something I've been doing for a while now. Yoga has always helped and I do it every day. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

Steve usually does his progerssion from the benches or outside the chamber. Haven't seen him in there for a while, last Dec. he was in there with me. Sean is usually the one working on HD (BACK 2 TOPIC) in there with people as well as doing most of the freefly school's coaching in the tunnel and sky. Steve is holding down the ground and trying to get better. I'm not sure if he has another surgery scheduled but he seems to be getting better and on his way to getting in the air soon. This is just from talking with Steve and seeing him at the tunnel recently. If you are there as much as you say you are I'm sure you'll run into him or Sean soon.

Man just thinking of that movie creeps me out I'm a scardy cat but hey, I wouldn't want to be stuck there Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

Had crown with root canal and without. They both suck but could have been worse. I hate tooth pain but I really didn't feel that much, even after, with the pain killers and antibiotics. Definately no fun though Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

DeLand or Titusville UR welcome down here. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

All depends on yoru skill and how well the instructors know you. I haven't back flown since my accident but I still sit fly in the tunnel all the time. Granted I have almost 8 hours in there now, but it all depends on your own progression and instructor. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

I also have the JBL white speakers, those rock too! I'm not sure which ones you are talking about but mine are the arch shaped white and silver ones with the woffer. They have a bangin sound! Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

You'll want more time under your belt in the tunnel sit flying as Skygod777 said. Unless you know some people and they are comfortable with your flying, I'd say sit fly and back fly first then move to hd after some hours in there getting a feel for the speeds and body positions. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

The BOSE dock is incredible. The remote makes it soooo nice and the sound from such a small speaker is phenominal. It's not cheap but it was a gift and I would definately say its worth the pirice tag. Super light, super small, and very easily transportable. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

All this just makes me cry Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

Foreign languages are beyond me. Unfortunately I don't speak any but that's pretty cool if they really mean that. You should talk wtih a tunnel instructor and if you are ready, start sittin' in the tunnel instead of just watching everyone else Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

I understand the frustration with the lack of description for responses. Maybe send a PM to someone more qualified to offer an explination. It might also be beneficial to tell them to ask a qualified coach who they trust and respect if you don't have a reference for them. I know I try to stay away from things I have never done if I have no first hand knowledge on a subject. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

Good luck having those not wear off. That is one of the worst places to get and maintain a good looking tattoo without a bunch of pain. I bet they are the shit though Sounds too cute. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

Mine is Rudolph, been used in movies for the holidays for a long time now. Not too uncommon though, or at least I think. Don't mind it now but man it was brutal when I was a kid. Kids say the darndest things. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

Haven't seen it but its strange that you both mention the director going over the top with some jokes. I just saw an interview with him and he said he went out of his way to make sure people thought it was funny and not just a stupid sequal. Maybe he tried too hard. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

Or just learn how to fly your body fast or slow

Can't really tell what it is. But I have a feeling its a sexy leg lamp! Ur just on the up and up of what is too cool. I had never even seen these till you made your post. Hope you leg lamp is shining bright through the chicago snow. Stay warm Val and CONGRATS on the JFTC

Maybe we should form a group of people to get a place in the profile or next to your avitar for your tunnel time. I know I would love to have that in there to help keep people safe. Again, please don't take this the wrong way. I've seen bad advice given (not saying yours by any means we already know you stated what we did) and taken without regard or reference to a coach. Unfortunately bad things happened and will continue to if we (those who aren't coaches) don't qualify our advice. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

First I wanna say that this is taking the wrong tone and I did not intend it to be like this. I am simply looking out for those who read the forums and take the advice. Please note that I have considered your position and thought about it with an open mind. This post is in no way shape or form a personal attack because many people on here offer advice they are not qualified to do so. I'm simply concerned about that and trying to make sure people know what adivce to take and what to filter through a coach. I think it should all be filtered through a coach regardless of who gives the advice. As you stated everyone learns different. Certain saying or phrasing could spark someone's lightbulb and get them flying better. When offering advice maybe just say, check with a coach but this is what I found/saw working for people. I'm still skeptical about the "saw" people doing. I'll explain that later. On to your post. You cannot compare the experience you have to that of Paulipod. That is like night and day. That would be like comparing myself to someone who has amassed tunnel time and jumps. You simply can't compare things without a common base. Paulipod has his profile filled out and works in close conjunction with a tunnel as you stated (and is in his profile) he has his own. There are spaces to put in your tunnel time in your profile, there does not have to be a specific place for it. Anything can go in a sig line, which might be a good place for it if you are going to offer advice. That way it is with every post you make and can be known to anyone. Yes there is a prejudice concerning experience levels and rightfully so. This is about the particulars of your response, if you have never done something, you have no idea on what needs to be done to correct a problem or offer advice that is safe and reasonable. Offering advice and assuming people will check with a coach is a bad idea. People read these forums, esp. newbies such as yourself (and I), and take the word as oath. Not saying we take advice blindly (no assumption about you is made here, please don't take it that way) but others may. That is their problem and not yours but you and others may be adding fuel to the fire. We are simply trying to keep everyone safe and keep information out there that is passed on by coaches who know, practice, and execute these tips daily (or at the very least frequently). I agree that the more someone knows the more tools they have. You are absolutely right. I also agree that coaches use different sayings or words to describe flying tips and tricks. I have experienced what you are talking about and def. agree that the more questions you ask the better off you are. The problem is we can't assume everyone will ask those questions of the appropriate people. Maybe you should not offer advice on something you've never done. I've seen plenty of people shoot a gun but I'm not going to give instructions to someone at a shooting range on gun safety and operation. Pretty sure that's what I was getting at when I said you are not qualified to offer that advice. Didn't say the advice was wrong, you are just not qualified to be speaking on a subject you have never experienced. If you have never done something than you are in the wrong for trying to pass on advice regarding it. Again, shooting/gun example. If you have tried sit flying and leaning back worked you could throw in your 2 cents by saying, leaning back worked for me but check with your coach before trying this. I want EVERYONE to be safe in the air and the tunnel as do you, I assume. The dangers that we face in the tunnel and the air can have the same consequences; broken bones, busted spirits, and lives taken. By offering advice you are not qualified to give, you endanger others who may read your post and not check with the proper people before trying something new. Point and case: If you haven't done it, don't give advice on it. If you haven't flown a canopy, don't give canopy control, swooping, accuracy tricks, or wing loading advice. You don't have the experience or know how to offer safe advice past face value or what you read in a manual if you have never had the experience. "You" is not directed at just Avion, but everyone on the forums that offers advice they are not qualified to give. He is not the only one by any means, again please don't take this the wrong way. I'm not trying to pick on Avion just trying to keep the advice on this forum to that of coaches who have waaaay more expierence than my insignificant 8 hours. Yes, 8 hours in the tunnel is insignificant compared to the people who are qualified to give advice. Just food for thought. No malicious intent intended. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com

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Thanks for clearing that up Rosa. Could have not found better words myself. Thanks for understanding what I was trying to get across. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com