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Ok, I edited my post... you were right - I was at work and must have been looking at an old copy of the page. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

I didn't actually look to see how many it has or what it's competing with... I just took his word that it was near the top and made a joke about his intentions by posting this. :) EDIT: Ok, I looked and checked and it's not even anywhere near the top of the list. 4th most downloaded is PerFlare's low cutaway... EDIT 2: I was at work and must have been viewing a cached (older) version of that page. You were right. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

When you log in, click "stay logged in". Then exit and re-click the original link here, and it will take you to the file. It's called "obi_flyby_2.wmv" by the way... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Yeh, there's one side view (just before deployment) where the glide ratio *appears* to be about 10 to 1. Optical illusion I'm sure, but still very cool to watch. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

If you have been reading the posts in this forum over the past 24 hours, it seems pretty obvious who this guy is. His stealthiness almost matches his apparent emotional balance. I wish I could check IP's to prove my theory... In any case, Leroy, I applaud you for remaining respectful. And with regards to your video it *is* damn cool... I grabbed it a while back when you first posted it and just a few days ago I actually had a weird urge to watch it again. Scary shit. Not sure why it's so popular, but with post-whoring like this you're sure to approach #1 soon. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Sounds like a good idea to me! www.WingsuitPhotos.com

It's called a free market economy. Why does anything cost what it costs? Because buyers and sellers agree on the price. If this seems over simple, I'm sorry. But it's true. You're never going to make sense of prices by trying to find out where every penny goes. If there is a market willing to pay the going rate, the sales will be made. Those who don't want to pay it, will find another way. Which you could easily do.

WTF is the deal with your poll? www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Yeh, I found it here, it was actually a reply to one of my posts, and I remember watching it. It's hard for me to see everything that's going on, but it does seem to reinforce what he says (the opposite of what I thought) - that he lifted his right leg to turn left. I'll have to try it some more... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

This might seem like a stupid question... the obvious answer is, try it out and see what happens! Which I intend to do, and I have done already but I wanted to make sure my data computes with everyone else's. Last weekend I was experimenting with leg control, since I think my leg awareness in general is where my intermittent instability comes from. The same has been true in other areas of skydiving, I usually have poor leg awareness when learning something new. So, I was flying with my legs in a somewhat "medium" extension... not knees-locked but not super-bent either. I was experimenting by picking one foot up higher than the other (bending that leg at the knee), and it seemed to me that I would turn TOWARD the side with the bent leg. But I wasn't quite sure because it seemed like I might be subconsciously doing something with my upper body too... and when I asked a VERY experienced skydiver and WS pilot @ the DZ, he told me the opposite should be true... I should be turning AWAY from the bent leg. I will experiment more tomorrow but I'm curious what others have to say. When I think about it analytically, it seems I should turn toward the bent leg (since the other side of my body is now in a fast position with a straighter leg, it will drive faster and start to turn about the slow side - make any sense?). www.WingsuitPhotos.com

You've used the term "this situation" several times without saying what it is. Care to explain? I'm still a bit lost... I'm guessing it's a PC in tow or something? www.WingsuitPhotos.com

This: It is a strange feeling beeing all sorunded with clouds without any altimeter and with a singel shot rig on your back and realize that for the last minute you have not seen the ground at all ... and then you approching wich seems like another layer of clouds. I got that feeling like it was time to maybe slow down so I did break off and pulled before/as I went in to the clouds, good choise because it was not another cloud layer it was the fog on the ground. Pretty short canopy ride :) is really scary! www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Heh, I do actually remember you - can't remember what you look like, but I remember a newbie skydiver who I had already been talking to, and I remember him landing next to me as I was taking off my rig and shirt in the middle of the landing area BEFORE heading back to the hangar. :) The pic is funny and makes sense now. I should have figured it out before... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

WTF, who are you and how you do know about the puke? Editor's note: the motion sickness was due to extreme hangover, combined with multiple bumpy plane rides. Had nothing to do with the wingsuit. :) P.S. WTF is going on in your avatar? It looks like you're taking a sharp turn on some sort of cycle apparatus, but half of the apparatus is missing, unless it's some futuristic hovercraft, which would be pretty cool... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

I don't have a home. Who are you? www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Hmm... I realize how much non-committal answers suck, but I might show up Friday or Saturday. SECOND EDIT: I am getting my reserve repacked in DeLand Friday night so I definitely won't make it on Friday... If I do, can I get dibs on a bed or not-short couch? EDIT: Or the floor will do... Jumped the wingsuit last weekend for the first time since the injury. Sebastian is one one my favorite places to jump it too, so I'll be up for birdjumps if I make it. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

For the first time in my life, I will use the dreaded X word - that was seriously extreme. I don't know a thing about climbing, so I had no idea they hung tents from the side of sheer walls. Insane! I liked reading about how weird it was to be on horizontal ground again after being accustomed to vertical for so long... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

That's what I learned in AFF, so it must be true! www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Regarding the comparison to tandems: There are tons of privately DZ's all over the country. The whuffos making tandem jumps are informed fully of the risk. If a whuffo went in at a DZ, even if his family went nuts with lawsuits, etc, not much would happen to the privately owned DZ, let alone skydiving as a whole, since there are so many DZ's. There is a jumpable bridge, publicly owned (OK, I'm assuming here, correct me if I'm wrong), that is a singularity of sorts. The whuffos making BASE jumps off of it are NOT well informed of the risk. If a whuffo went in @ the bridge, it IS possible that the family would go nuts with lawsuits, and they would not only be directed at the tanning salon guy, but also at the state, since the bridge is public (see assumption clause above ). It IS likely this could have a negative effect not only on the jumpability of the bridge, but also on legal bridge jumping in USA as a whole (since there are not a lot of places like this). Just my uninformed plane-jumper opinion... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

I think it's funny that in the same day, I read this post and another unrelated one talking about possible regulation at the Perrine Bridge (the burning thread). I'm not a BASE jumper, so maybe my opinion doesn't count, but I think anyone will agree that this kind of thing should not be happening. And there's really no way to *stop* it, short of regulation. I'm not really jumping to any conclusion here, and I certainly hate regulation in anything just as much as the next guy - but I've also learned through the years that there are many necessary evils in life. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

This may have been posted before, apologies if it is. Was just watching the Simpsons and in the commercials there was a clip showing a guy from a 4-way team in DeLand (don't know name of team or guy, but I know it's a big team and I know I've seen the guy around the DZ) saying how important the weather is for skydiving and FOX news has good weather or something. Then it showed the team turning a few points with the unmistakable DeLand runways in the background. Pretty cool, actually, it didn't piss me off at all. :) I live in Orlando so it's probably just a local news commercial to this area... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Interesting, Scott. I've had two very close calls on tracking dives, each one I moved up at the last second to see the person go inches under my nose at a fast relative speed (in retrospect it would have been a lot easier to drop down as you did). Now I'm wondering if maybe it was partially my fault, since it *has* happened to me twice. But at least in both instances I *did* see it coming (even if not until the last 2 seconds), and in both instances the other person was unaware of it, even on the ground. So I guess to be safer I just should have noticed it sooner than 2 seconds before impact. As stated, this was in a tracking dive and it was scary as hell and looked like it would have hurt to say the least - in a BM jump I don't even want to imagine what it looks/feels like with those forward speeds. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Glad you're ok and we can all learn from this, Ed. Hope you feel better... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Ok, thanks for your advice guys, you're both right, and I will be jumping the suit again sometime soon. So no luck for you monkey. THE SUIT IS MINE! EDIT: Scott - yeh I got trained by a BMI but I still like to think on my own and I have also had some very experienced pilots say they deploy slightly different. But I agree now that this is the best way. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Hmm, not really sure if I'm looking for advice or feedback or what, just wanted to tell this story. About four months ago I had a hard reserve opening because I left my leg wing open and gained some speed before deploying the reserve in what was probably a near head down (but still somewhat subterminal) opening. The opening was VERY hard and aggravated some of the discs in my back so I took several weeks off. Over the past few weeks I've been jumping (non-WS) again. My back was 90% better, only a tiny amount of pain left that usually wasn't noticeable. I've been wanting to do another WS jump but was a little nervous. Two days ago, after an awesome 4 way (wearing RW suit with booties), I was tracking away and decided I'd do a practice BM pull so I pulled in a track (something I've never tried before). Well, my main opened pretty damn fast and now my back is feeling funky again. I don't think it's NEARLY as bad as it was the first time... I think this is kind of the thing that might even go away within a few more days - it already feels slightly better in two days, plus the impact didn't nearly knock me out like the first one did. Again, I dunno why I posted this. Just wondering how stupid it was to pull in a track in my RW suit and if I should have expected such a hard opening. In my "down time" I've played through various WS deployment procedures in my head and decided the one that is right for me is shutting down all wings, tracking for a few seconds, then dumping (legs shut whole time). I'm now hoping this doesn't give me as hard an opening as that RW track deployment did. If I only wait 2 seconds or so, after "shutdown", to dump, I'm thinking it will slow my forward speed down enough, but keep my fallrate low enough that I'll still have a noticeable subterminal opening. Only one way to find out I guess.