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Exactly, there is a lot you don't know when email forwards go bad >:-) -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

We are not whining, just making statements about conditions that you will laugh at if you live here. That being said, I dont think I would ride or drive in NYC. Been there, was amazed, walked a lot. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

Ditto....I think we had ESP.

Yeah, but Addison has leopard print spandex and a city funded gym....I mean come one... -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

THAT is freaking classic. DART busses are the bane of ... well ... everything. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

Well, HD will pay for the MSF course if you take it in the first year after you got the bike. I agree with the CC limits, BUT it is a whole lot easier to generate too much torgue too fast on an R1 than an R6. I totally agree you can push both too far if you try. Guys, it is the obstacles, not the speed, that kills. If you follow Moto GP at all, watch a documentary called Faster and they talk about bike evolution and track design. These guys take spills at 150+ and live to tell because of gravel pits and air fences. In the history of Moto GP only one rider has died on the track and that was test driving an F1 car. Now...there are lots of femurs, etc, but not death. The point is this...IF you want to do those speeds you have to control the environment if you want majority odds of no major injuries or death. It is the unexpected occurence that kills you. I have done plenty of stupid stuff in various cars and bikes and looked back and gone DAMN I was an idiot. I live in DFW and see sport bike riders doing things on 635 in traffic that I would think twice about doing on a track. It is just plain foolish and defending it through any kind of 'live your life' philosophy is equally foolish in my opinion. If you want to live like that...most of the other people on the road will not be surprised when they see you impact as you prove your independence. I personally know guys that raced bikes at a professional level and most have moved to cars at their age because of the physical abuse. These guys are some of the safest drivers I have ever seen...sometimes I even get annoyed following them. My point is that a good rider based to a huge degree on judgement, more than any other factor. Most riders would say that a country road is at least as dangerous as a highway with traffic. If you want to do this stuff, get on an empty piece of interstate in the middle of the night, and your worst fear is probably a ticket. As for the cruiser comments, you are spot on. I have been to Sturgis, I have my Iron Butt, I have ridden 3500 miles in 5 days....I am a rider. And yes, I have seen plenty of guys along the way that ride 5 times a year using their fancy trailer and are way over their head, I have seen pretty chopper boys squinting in the rain through sunshades, I have seen people drink too much and then get on the bike. And in every case, I few those people no different than some kid riding a wheely in 4 lane traffic or taking a turn at 174mph. Irresponisble is irresponsible, I don't care what badge is on your gas tank or what your lean angle is. And I would just as soon hang out a bit longer and let you get further down the road, before I get on it. And all the comparisons between skydiving and this are bunk. We fly on a 'closed course' guys, for most intents and purposes. And if an aircraft came onto our course, you would scream your ass off. And if exit seperation was zero you would scream your ass off. We control our environment, why would you do anything less on a bike? And finally, I suspected since yesterday that something about these is not as it appears. I did not see initial proof on the net, and don't have a lot of time to search, but I think there is some factor of hyped email forward gore here somewhere. But, hey, if it brought about a debate on bike safety, it served a purpose. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

do NOT put a NOS spray rig in it. Why? Pics http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=38828.0 Video http://www.driftsauce.com/z06/Al%20beats%20a%20c5%20z06.avi -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

Yep. With a hot freeflyer. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

See slappie my rambling got you a pic, medicore thought it is. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

Probably about the same odds as him making that corner. Considering his judgement about the curve was flawed, I am not putting a lot of stock in the rest of the situation. You can justify all you want, riding like that on an open road puts people in danger. Period. At least agree on that, and then you can debate the rest of it. I try to minimize that kind fo danger when I ride. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

What if he had hit a bystander in the curve...would you still feel the same way? -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

First I think you already threatened to spank me once. Second, I thought you meant cut and pasted. It may very well be tweaked and filtered, but almost all pics are these days. The term is 'airbrushed' -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

A nice pleasant thred after today's fare. And OH so true. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Driving In Dallas -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- For all of you who may be wanting to visit or move to Dallas, there are a few driving rules that must be observed: First you must learn to pronounce the city name. It is DAL--US, not DAL-IS. Next, if your Mapsco is more than a few weeks old, throw it out and buy a new one.If you are in Denton or Collin County and your Mapsco is one day old, then it is already obsolete. Forget the traffic rules you learned elsewhere. Dallas has its own version of traffic rules..."Hold on and pray". There is no such thing as a dangerous high-speed chase in Dallas. We all drive like that. All directions start with, "Get on Beltline or Get on Loop 12" ...which has no beginning and no end. The morning rush hour is from 6 to 10. The evening rush hour is from 3 to 7. Friday's rush hour starts Thursday at lunch. If you actually stop at a yellow light, you will be rear ended, cussed out and possibly shot. When you are the first one on the starting line, count to five when the light turns green before going to avoid crashing with all the drivers running the red light in cross-traffic. Construction on Central Expressway is a way of life and a permanent form of entertainment. We had sooo much fun with that, we have added George Bush Freeway and the High Five to the mix. All unexplained sights are explained by the phrase, "Oh, we're in Fort Worth." If someone actually has their turn signal on, it is probably a factory defect. Car horns are actually "Road Rage" indicators. All old ladies with blue hair in Mercedes have the right of way. PERIOD. Inwood Road, Plano Road, NW Highway, East Grand, Garland Road, Marsh Lane, Josey Lane, 15th Street, Preston Road... all mysteriously change names as you cross intersections (these are only a FEW examples). The perfect example is what is MOSTLY known as Plano Road. On the south end it is known as Lake Highlands Drive, cross Northwest Highway and it becomes Plano Road, go about 8 miles and it is briefly Greenville Ave, Ave K, and Highway 5. It ends in Sherman. Or Turtle Creek, which turns into Preston Road which turns into Highway 289. It also ends in Sherman. If asking directions in Irving, Garland or East Dallas, you must have knowledge of Spanish. If in central Richardson or on Harry Hines, Mandarin Chinese will be your best bet. If you stop to ask directions on Gaston or Live Oak, you better be armed. A trip across town (east to west) will take a minimum of four hours, although many north/south freeways have unposted minimum speeds of 75. Don't get on the Dallas North Tollway unless your car is capable of doing 90mph. While on the tollway, don't even THINK about stopping in the Tolltag lane at the toll plaza. In fact, don't even slow down. You will get run over. You WILL get stuck in traffic. This is simply a fact of life. For this reason, don't leave the house without a full tank of gas, a change of clothes, a day's supply of food and water, and an inflatable raft. You might want to bring something to read; the entire Encyclopedia Brittanica is recommended. While you are stuck in traffic, use caution when opening your doors. Opening your driver's door to empty your ashtray could land a motorcyclist in your front seat. It is possible to be driving WEST in the NORTH-bound lane of EAST NORTHWEST Highway. You can also drive north or south on I35 East and West. Highway 121 North runs East and West. And even though all other odd-numbered highways in the nation go north and south, highway 183 runs east and west; the opposite is true for highway 360. Don't let this confuse you. LBJ is called "The Death Trap" for two reasons: "death" and "trap." If it's 100 degrees, Thanksgiving must be next weekend. If it's 10 degrees and sleeting/snowing, the Fort Worth Stock Show is going on. If it's rained 6 inches in the last hour, and it is Spring, the Byron Nelson Golf Classic is in the second round. If it is Fall, the Texas State Fair is going on. So don't be alarmed if you have to switch your car's climate control from heat to A/C and back to heat all within 4 hours. If you go to the Fair, pay the $5.00 to park INSIDE Fair Park. Parking elsewhere could cost up to $2500 for damages, towing fees, parking tickets, etc. If some guy with a flag tries to get you to park in his 'yard', run over him. All amusement parks, stadiums, arenas, race tracks, airports, etc., are conveniently located as far away from EVERYTHING as possible so as to allow for ample parking on grassy areas. With these simple rules in mind, you are now ready to drive in Dallas. Quit whining. Try to keep up. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

Oh and in a similar vein of reasoning....not all women with big boobs have implants. There were actually big breasts more than 20 years ago. Just wanted to point that out, seems like we holler photshop and fake at about the same rate. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

On helpdesk coffee mugs everywhere -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

RTFM -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

Hate to be net police again, but they are not photoshopped, they are simply someone who look like her. http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/permalink/britney/ -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

Pictures have to live somewhere....they either have URL on a website or a file attachment in an email. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

The answer is you have more self control and common sense than most people here or on the internet in general. They open it regardless and then complain. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

Agreed, se above post about the 'general public' environment. And you are a better judge than he is, you are still alive. Dangerous is fine...these are the odds. If you play with them, big balls, BASE, bikes, etc. My hat is off....but don't endanger others who don't even know you are there. PERIOD. Even the BASE ethics crowd would agree on this. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

I was trying to compromise -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

Odd thread...BUT it is truly amazing what you can think people are saying even watching news or weather if it is muted. You can make up all kinds of stuff. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

You have a point. BUT....if I landed my canopy every single day in the midst of the general public, I would fully endorse wingloading BSRs. A drivers license with or without M endrosement grants you incredible destructive power. For the record I am not squeamish, I have had my harley at 100mph, and my new vw at 130mph (on a closed course of course ) But doing in the general public, and mostly because their is no resource other than hard knocks is just foolish. Imagine if the only way to get a velocity was to buy one and fly it? -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

Yeah, this is pretty jacked up really. And I blame a LOT of it on insurance companies. I know as a cruiser pilot (02 Fat Boy) with an interest in sport bikes. Try to demo ride a bike sometime. It is almost impossible. Usually it requires a license and some sort of dealer demo day. And that is jsut for a demo ride. Now most of those people got their license on a Honda Rebel 250 in a parking lot IF they took a safety course at all. Most of this is because of insurance. So...most young people enamored by rap videos, go buy a bike and get straight on the road. And in their defense, it is hard to to it any other way. Mainly because of insurance. What I would like to see: If you have no experience, dealer will not sell you anything a sport bike bigger than 600c. As part of buying bike, a price is tacked on for a weekend safety course followed by a weekend track day at a track designed for sport bikes. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.

I agree with you, actually, amazingly enough. I listen to certain bands whose ethics I think are appalling. I listen for their musical talent. If they started selling magazines about their life, or TV shows I wouldn't buy. I don't want to know anything about their lives. And...if their lives come too far into the lyrics, I back out. Might sound harsh, but music has a funny affect on the body, and I don't like most angry/depressing music. My point is if you want to listen to Britney music, fine. If you start to glorify/endorse/approve her lifestyle as a sideffect, that is a different level in my book. Her ability to sing and or dance has 0% relationship to her judgement or character attributes. -- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI.