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They say it was a quarter-mile away. I'm assuming that would be downhill. That's only 440 yards. If you've ever pushed a big rock down a steep hill as a kid (or an adult), you know that it picks up a lot of momentum, careening off of trees, and pretty much nothing will stop it. I can see the engine doing that after the plane disintegrates against the hillside, since it's a big, heavy chunk of steel, like a boulder. Sounds like "CFIT" - controlled flight into terrain. He may have got into weather, didn't realize that the mountaintops were higher than his altitude, and flew right into one. What's the altitude ceiling for a Bellanca? Oh wait, there's more than one type... I took the news photo of his N-number "N240R", and determined that this was a model 8KCAB Decathlon. 150 to 180 horsepower depending upon engine type. Service ceiling is listed as 15,800 ft. Okay, so he should have been able, if the engine was operating properly, to climb above those peaks. So now I'm thinking he must have had an engine problem, or he would have climbed his way out of trouble. Perhaps engine trouble, combined with weather preventing him from seeing what was coming... Are these planes outfitted for IFR flight? http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N240R.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8KCAB_Decathlon I know deadstick is a misnomer but do these planes have good glide ratio to bring one in at that altitude? Weather seems to have been a factor. Blu skies Steve. He accomplished quite a bit in his life. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Mannerisms speak volumes. You should of watched it as well as listened. I equate her w/ Edith Bunker. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Well. Not quite as bad as Bush. I caught that too. She is just plain scary. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

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Well stated. I've been studying quite a bit of history in my spare time the last few yrs. Hopefully people will learn that greed and imperialism don't work in the long run. I never was one that liked shiny objects. That being said, why aren't people learn from past mistakes? Sheesh I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

My mother in law used to wear a BRAR. Damn southern bitches. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

I just thought I'd add to the mix in light of the economic discussions. need Vortexring there. he would have taken out the perp hand to gun. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

So. You went into combat unarmed? LOL And why do cops need guns? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Ok. why do cops and soldiers need guns. Are they pussies? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Can Chuck deflect bullets? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Video>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7637327.stm I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Donno. But. Thread drift. Haven't received my absentee ballot from Fl. yet. Called all the #'s I got off the web for Fl. today. Out of service. The next sounded like a fax. Called a few more. Fuckin NADA. Fl. is one fucked up state to vote in. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Hey. Did you negotiate. I got my shoes shined whilst eating tacos the last time i was in TJ. You HAVE to negotiate. The hookers. Well. I won't go there. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Na. He wouldn't fart or shit. Then he could be charged w/ assault on himself. Posthumously. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

And still, we allow anyone to just walk up to a gas pump, plunk down some money, and walk away with deadly gasoline, no questions asked, no age minimum, no background check. Someone show me how one person, with one gun, can kill all of the occupants of an apartment building as easily with that gun as he can with a bottle of gasoline. Granted, it didn't happen in this case, but it has happened in many others. Notably, the Happyland Fire No one in this country (or any other I know of) has ever used a gun to kill as many. Interesting. In california you have to be 18 to buy spray paint and the stores (Home Depot etc.) keep it locked up. Are they worried about you spray painting someone to death? More about huffers and taggers. BUT. it's ok to huff gas or kill someone w/ it. Crazy world we live in. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

17 and 21 but you already knew that. We don't shoot at Iraqis. In fact most of the time we get shot at, its by foreign extremists from other countries who came there specifically to fight us. Now I'm not sure about hospitably where you come from but we like to honor our guests by giving them what they came for. Donno about that. I went in in the late 70s. 17 year olds were allowed to drink. ON BASE. But then the legal age off base was 18 at the time. This was Florida. But that was then and this is now. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Here is the list for 08. http://www.fdic.gov/bank/historical/bank/index.html I sure don't see Illinois in there but I do see Az. if that the point you are trying to make. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

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Why stop the printing presses while they are running perfectly well. If it ain't broke don't fix it. And you know it costs more to restart something once you turn it off. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Not me. I just tell em to fuck off and quit. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

I beg to differ. I'd say the majority of people in Iraq and around the world killed are from U.S. weapons systems as we are the leading supplier and user of those weapons. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

The old man is just relieved. That's what I thought. He's wiping the sweat off his brow right now. Why can't you have the bill in progress faxed to you while you are on the road or in the air? And they both have FUCKING JETS. Can't they debate and hop on their jets to vote in DC? The debate is about foreign policy not economics. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

You expect anyone to believe anything from that bunch of proven liars? 10/10 yet again! Go back one post up by me and read. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/24/america/w24davis.php "One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain's campaign manager from the end of 2005 through last month, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement. The disclosure contradicts a statement Sunday night by McCain that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had no involvement with the company for the last several years." I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

LOL. good one. Thanks I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.