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*** Armstrong blew his line, what he meant to say was: " one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind" http://www.snopes.com/quotes/onesmall.asp I have always thought that. The way his voice trails off at the end, I think he realized it also. But in his situation, I would've probably said something like, "Motherfucker! Look at this shit!!" It would not really have been one for the history books.

easy fix. use the timer, like when you take a picture of the family but have to run to get into it. when the camera goes off you wont actually be touching it. So... are you going to tell us how you get the lightning to pose for that pic?

Yep. The Para-flite packing instructions manual for the Swift Plus, Swift, Cirrus, and Orion says: "....The center of the tail is identified with a stamped data block, or an orange sewn on warning label. ...." The accompanying photo in the manual shows the ink-stamped label on the tail just to the left of the seam at the center.

After #138, jump #139 probably wouldn't have been my packjob, either!

Glad you survived that! Chilling video! (that skull cloud with his hand around his throat at around 0:40 was a nice touch.)

Y'all probably should watch this in-depth documentary.

Do the thing you fear most and the death of fear is certain. ~Mark Twain Why shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. ~Mark Twain

Damn! ....that thing about the guitar really sucks! No wonder I've gotten no farther than I have after 45 years of "playing".

[reply......... ........ Which ones are the "winners"... the men, women and children that "honorably" and passively submit to tyranny, martyrdom and genocide or the ones who are left and, only by luck, managed to escape the carnage and are still left living after offering themselves up to the sacrifice? (Wouldn't that be "dishonorable"?)

Ain't it the truth! All the old farts and blue-hairs live in Sarasota......but their parents live in St. Pete!

Star Trek again: from a BC comic strip. The ant is surrounded by 4 anteaters. The ant says, "I sure as heck hope Scotty has my coordinates!"

It's hard to look at the blockade incident as an isolated, stand-alone event. Without some "thread drift" providing historical context from differing POVs there would have only been a couple of followup posts. #2 I agree and #3 I disagree. ...nothing more to say after that other than a roll call.

The Apollinaire quote. Yep! Probably a lot of truth to that!

from another classic!

I like that.... but I'll admit that I did have to google it.

Start it up in safe mode. That should either eliminate or confirm a hardware problem by loading generic video drivers. ...although you still could have some problem with the video "card" (maybe only apparent at higher res or refresh rates) even if the screen displays OK in safe mode.

from my favorite flick: "Goldie, how many times have I told you guys that I don't want no horsing around on the airplane?" ~ Major Kong another: "I know how it is, baby. Tell you what you do ...you just start your countdown, and old Bucky'll be back here before you can say Blast off!" ~ General T.

Well there a suprise Hey! ....we agree on something! (I think?)

Yep. Here's another...someone else: "Evil does exist in the world. A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler's armies. Negotiations cannot convince al Qaida's leaders to lay down their arms. To say that force may sometimes be necessary is not a call to cynicism — it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason."

This discussion has gone circular... probably on the 3rd or 4th lap now. This thread provides a great example of why negotiations will never work in solving this problem. No common ground will be found until the state of Israel is dissolved. If all of the "occupied territories" are returned to the aggressor countries, Israel will still be condemned by "the world" for it's existence and for defending itself. My evidence is that Israel existed without these territories for 20 years while continually being attacked and the fair, even-handed, justice-driven, parasitic UN did nothing more than direct "harsh language" at the attackers.

This one makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. "I appeal for cessation of hostilities ... because war is bad in essence. You want to kill Nazism. Your soldiers are doing the same work of destruction as the Germans. The only difference is that perhaps yours are not as thorough as the Germans ... I venture to present you with a nobler and a braver way, worthy of the bravest soldiers. I want you to fight Nazism without arms or ... with non-violent arms. I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions. Let them take possession of your beautiful island, with your many beautiful buildings. You will give all these but neither your souls, nor your minds. If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourself, man, woman and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them ... I am telling His Excellency the Viceroy that my services are at the disposal of His Majesty's Government, should they consider them of any practical use in advancing the object of my appeal."

[reply........ I'm asking questions which you seem to find offensive, hence resorting to your comments. Why does the IDF not release videos and photos taken by the flotilla crews?. Perhaps they show the IDF members fired first and the flotilla crews were defending themselves....as some of the flotillas members allege. Perhaps the purpose of the videos was to create propaganda. Perhaps the IDF does not want to publicize tactical information showing how they do "things". Could be useful to future "martyrs". The ships of the flotilla were NOT full of people intent on martyrdom.....there were many peace activists from many different nations. They were intent on delivering aid, which was what the Israeli authorities found when they inspected the ships. Precedent there, too ....Hiding behind innocents is not new for some "martyrs". The only video seen was that issued by the IDF, which conflicts with the reports of some of those on board the ships. As such video of the incident only shows one POV. I'm sure the videos probably do conflict with the perpetrators' stories. "A picture is worth 1000 words". But I suppose you could keep on looking at videos until you find one you agree with. Having said that, My mind could be changed if actual evidence is shown. I am not the kind of person who blindly swallows one line of argument. I THINK the IDF overreacted, and the disproportionate casualty figures during the incident suggest this to me. Maybe, maybe not. I'm pretty sure that the IDF forces are some of the best trained of their type in the world. They probably met the attackers with overwhelming force, probably saving a lot more lives. These "activists" knew they were playing with fire and they got burnt. These soldiers had nothing to gain by committing "murder" and everything to lose. I don't think they were that stupid. I believe they were intentionally provoked (for their cameras) I'm aware the Israel apologists will never see any other POV, and that is one of the reasons Israel will live in paranoid fear for ever. Fanatics on both sides are entrenched. I calls 'em like I sees 'em. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm rong. The US could do a hell of a lot more to bring an end to the conflict, but it just doesn't seem to be in the interests of certain sections of US society. The US needs to fully support Israel or back off and let the chips fall. The world outside Israel and the US continue to shake their heads at the ongoing nonsense. ...while offering no real solution other than buying into the growing anti-Israel sentiment in the world. I'm not sure what the world expects Israel to do. Giving Israeli land to the Palestinians has been shown not to be the answer... and, they do not have any to give and I seriously doubt that even that would be the end. Maybe they should just follow Gandhi's dumbass advice in WW2 and just calmly accept the Holocaust and martyrdom.

But in this case, the flotilla was NOT in Israeli waters, nor had it crossed the line...and these were not military ships carrying a military force. And their intentions were quite clear. An assault force does not broadcast its intentions to the world. Besides I'm sure the Israeli navy was more than capable of stopping a flotilla of merchant ships, as soon as it crossed that line...a shot across the bows would have sufficed if the flotilla actually breached the line. Spin it any way you like. These ships were in international waters. Israel was out of line. OOPS! ...you must have skipped completely over Andy's post #130 above.

I'd vote for "I'm an asshole" but I don't "get" what that has to do with this topic.

I guess you're wearing a tin foil hat. Well, I a person can just read all the "reports" about a given event and believe or disbelieve whichever ones he wants. Some may think that anyone who believes a source just because they agree with it is also wearing weird headgear. I would have no problem believing the UN report if I saw supporting evidence. And actually, I've only seen video that supports the opposite. ...but their history of aligning against Israel is kinda like the "boy who cried wolf". You hear it so often that the response is likely to be "Yeah, OK. what's Stewie on Family Guy up to today".