packerboy

If you are playing single table tournaments, the trick is to play opposite the table style... if they are playing tight, play loose, if they are playing loose, play tight. You will lose 4-10 times... but do the math. 6-10 in the money puts you up. If you start with $50 and you play $5 buy in single table tournaments... If you play really tight, you should be in the money for half of them. This being said, you may lose $50 before you win $60..... -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

It is a tragedy that our society has allowed this sort of behaviour to become acceptable and cool and fun to these kids. Tragedy that they couldn't find something more constructive to do. The $80,000 car had NOTHING to do with it. Could have been a $500 car. The fact that they had money had NOTHING to do with. Poor kids do things just as stupid, some would argue that they would do even dumber things. If I have the chance I will give a car to my kids too... does this make me an irresponsible parent. Might not be a $80,000 car. But it doesn't have to be worth $80,000 to be lethal. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

I'm willing to bet that the only difference this made was that it was a nice car on a private runway instead of a shitty car on a public back road. What does everyone have against rich kids? Jealous? I know I am, but that doesn't make me not like them without even knowing them. It isn't their fault that their parents had money. They could've driven off that berm and killed themselves in a 1984 Ford pickup if that was what they had at their disposal. Being rich doesn't make you stupid things. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

I'm disapointed by what I am hearing. Stupid sure... but stupid does not make you deserve to be dead. I've done stupid things too. And I'm sure most of you have too. Maybe not quite that stupid, but still. I feel for the boys. Rich and spoiled does not make you deserve to be dead either. It sometimes amplifies the level of stupidity you feel you can get away with though. I'm sure there are alot of rich and spoiled kids who are skydivers doing stupid things with hot canopies which they can afford but not handle. I do not wish they hook it in to remove them from the gene pool or take them from our sport. I wish that they have some luck on their side and eventually humble themselves enough to see the err of their ways, or make it long enough to gain the skills to do their stupid things and be safe doing it, and not hurt others in the process. Those who wish death or joke about the death of those they do not know make me sick. Perhaps I've been a little too close to death lately losing my own son. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

In Canada you have to sign an exclusion clause for those in your household that are not to drive the car. This means however that they are not EVER insured to drive that car, not even borrow it to go to the store or they are looking at a MASSIVE fine for driving w/o insurance. It is worth it if your kid has had a DUI, your rates would be increased by 100% for three years even if you say they will not drive the car, unless you sign this waiver. That crash was f'ing terrible... What a waste.. Alcohol not a factor my ass, you'd have to be pretty naive to believe that. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Man... so do I, but you've got to bite your tongue and think risk versus reward. The most you are going to win is a couple of thousand chips right? If you slowly build your stack with medium sized pots untill first break you should have much more than that. Your tournament life is on the line when you go all in.. how many times have you seen AA beat by junk at the beginning of the tournament? It could mean the difference between coming in 876th place and winning the tournament. Look at it this way also... most of the players who play crazy aggressive at the beginning of the tournament and win all these chips with bad beats and sometimes good hands are typically weak players. Not all, but most. I have seen some really good players take off at the start and know when to fold, but you have to be really good. But these players that gain massive chip stacks at the beginning are the ones who have monster chip stacks midway through the tournament and are the players that you double up through when it really counts... putting them out on the bubble, or early in the money and giving you the chipstack at the right time to take it all. Let them keep your chips warm for you. The most important thing to learn in this game if you are going to win is patience. I think.. anyways. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

MTT's are multi-table tournaments. IMO, they are somewhat difficult to immediately start winning money with, but with your $50 if you start playing $1 tournaments and you are serious about learning how to play and stay calm and don't get upset about taking beats you will end up with a larger than $50 payday before it runs out. There are plenty of good strategy articles about playing larger tournaments online, I suggest checking a couple out. But here is the jist.. At the beginning of a tournament do not EVER go all in pre-flop.. even with AA! The risk is not worth a petty amount of chips you will receive in return. Those couple of hundred in chips don't mean squat when the blinds are $2K and $4K so why risk your tournament life for them? Play tight. Limit your starting hands to AA KK QQ and AKs. Play others in the blinds, or if there is a big pot pre-flop and it is cheap to get in. Once you get closer to the money, people will tend to tighten up ALOT because they think they can coast to a payday. This is when you want to start really building your chipstack. Loosen and and try to play a flew bluffs even to steal blinds. Don't play every hand though. Just every once in a while try and steal someones raise if you have a decent hand. Don't just call a raise at this point.. if you have a good enough hand and someone has raised you... re-raise, but be very weary if they again go over the top.. they have a monster. After the "bubble" breaks and you are into the money... watch out for the lower chip stacks.. they have won their money back and now feel the need to luck out with their medium hands to give themselves the chance to make some real money. You should tighten back up again at this point. Nearing the final table.... this is where it gets tough. You need to play the opposite style of poker as the rest of your table. If they are playing loose.. then tighten up. If they are playing tight... push them around. If you get to this point, usually you will be playing alot on "feel". You have now made your money back and all it takes is a little practice to get that "feel" before you start making some real cash. All this is just my opinion. I am not a pro poker player by any means, but when it comes to playing poker online I am not a losing player. I very rarely put money in and I sometimes (not as often as I like) cash out hundreds and even over a thousand dollars. I never pay more than $20 for a tournament. I have won a few tournaments with over 1000 people in them, but I have also lost a few in the first few hands (mostly because my emotions got the best of me and I went all in pre-flop with AA). I am first place in my poker league. What I'm trying to say is that I'm not great... but I don't suck. GL. What site do you play and what is your handle? I may see you sometime.. limestonepokertour.com I'm #298 -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Small blind live cash games are much different than large blinds for sure. It is not the same for tournaments. Micro-tables are smaller buy in 6-10 person sit and go's or large MTT under $1 buy in. What site do you play at? I personally like the smaller ones, I get to know the people that I play with with at my level, and see them often. As opposed to the billion or so people on riverstars where you never see the same person twice. I apologize, I thought you were the one telling him to play larger buy in tables.. like $10 because $1 tables were a waste of time. IMO that's bad advice. Cheers.. Edited to add: Yeah I guess that was you..... -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

All this crap that people are telling you about not playing micro-tables is exactly that... crap. You will see every type of player imaginable at the micro-tables. Playing good poker is not only about playing cards, but playing the players as well. If you are trying to learn how to play the players, then the micro-tables are the best way to do it. (not free ones though) By playing these tables and sitting back to watch the action and really, I mean REALLY paying attention to what people are doing, you should soon be able to sort the players into certain categories. If you are going to read any of Doyle Brunson's books (he does make one specifically for online poker), then once you are proficient enough to be able to categorize certain player styles, playing micro-tables will be like shooting fish in a barell. If you are out to simply have fun playing poker, then you will not want to risk the amount you need to put out to win big money. Micro-tables are the way to go. If you are out to make money, than you should be able to finish in the money 8 out of 10 times on the micro-tables before moving on to larger buy in games. Despite what these people are telling you, a $10 game does not play a whole lot different than a 10c game online other than when you get sucked out, you're out more money. There are donkeys and good players in both. Sure the play is getting a little different in a $100 buy in tournament, but unless you are really good or really rich you will lose these most of the time. Just because people aren't chasing or sucking out, it doesn't mean you are going to beat them easier. Actually, quite the opposite. Sure maybe a few more people in the micro games are willing to chase, but with a bit of skill under your belt, you will be able to spot these players and know the difference between when they hit and when they do not and use that to your advantage. More skilled players will still chase, but you are less likely to know when they hit. Some of the best players in the world will start with any hand (position considered) if they know that they can outplay the rest of the players in the hand. Although I do conceed that the advice given about playing strong starting hands when you are learning is good advice. To be honest, I wouldn't even play that many hands... you will lose more money starting with J J than you will starting with 9 10. I won't lie, you will lose to these "loose" players much more than you would like to, but overall with a little info under your belt you will beat them more times than you will lose to them. They are putting the money on the table for you to take.. you just need to chose the right time to take it. I don't care what anyone says, if I sit down to a poker table with the intention of winning money, I would much rather them be all bad poker players than all good. If you would like the excitement of being able to win more money with smaller investments (I have been able to parlay a $2.20 buy in to over $1200), play small buy in MTT satellites that will win seats into larger tournaments. Untill you start placing 1 or 2 in large MTT satellites, These satellites spread the prize money (buy ins which you can usually cash out for money) further down the list of winners. Usually a $10 buy in will pay the same amount of cash or buy in credit for every 10 players entered.. ie. 134 entries: top 13 get $100 buy in to larger tournament (sometimes with up to $500K prize money) and spot 14 gets $40. And play tight... really tight in larger tournaments.. BTW... to those that think it's easier to win a big buy in tournament because the players play "real" poker in stead of chasing everything... yes even you Mr 65th on your website or 10th in Australia or whatever you said... I extend the warmest welcome to come play a friendly home game next time you are in Ontario. You might want to bring a shitload of cash and prepay your hotel room and jumptickets.. Edited to add: I respectfully disagree with Bigway although his style may do well playing poker online, I think his logic regarding table selection is severly flawed for a newer player. Kinda like a swooper teaching an AFF student how to land a Velocity. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously though... you'd want to dip your hotdog in a bucket of bleach after being down that damp corridor!!!! -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Actually it looks much MUCH better... -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Probably the most constructive advice so far. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

If Parachutist printed a bad review of a GM dropzone, would they not be opening themselves up to the same kind of lawsuit that they just settled with Skyride? They simply cannot and should not be able to meddle in the commerce of DZ operations who are GM's. If there were no group membership program however, we could expect and demand a reasonable evaluation of DZ's. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Lol.... I don't think that it will ever be "Jan who?" I personally don't know her, and to be honest, I don't really pay attention to a whole lot, but I've heard the name quite a few times before the Skyride issue blew up. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Noone needs the list of GM's. Maybe A licences and D licences, since those ones are more of an "accomplishment" than B's and C's. Maybe a featured dropzone every month. Maybe something interesting about a featured skydiver that is not skydiving related... Maybe pictures from someone other than Norman Kent and Mike McGowan... (that ones a stretch, but you know what I mean.. make room for others). I do love their photos BTW. The good thing about it though is that they put 90% of the crap in the back, so you know when you get to a certain point, you can chuck it. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

I thought I asked for this before, but not in the same manner. I agree.. I want to know what is going on with my money. tritchie77@sympatico.ca put me on the list. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Our DZO keeps "hours untill next inspection" on a whiteboard handy for most to see. At least he used to. And most regular jumpers knew when the plane was gone for inspection. What I can't remember right now is if it is in a staff only area, of which there are few. Only one really.. the rigging loft, and customers will go in there all the time to talk to the rigger, inspect gear etc. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

This is just the way I am... but I'd read the manual, try to figure out how to hook it up myself.. take a stab at it, and then let your rigger tell you if you did it right or wrong, and why. Just make damn sure that noone is going to jump it before it is checked by a rigger. You're not going to hurt anything. Might make your riggers job a little harder, but hey.. that's what you pay them for. Now is a good time to learn a little something about how parachutes work. If you are going to use them to save your life... it can't hurt to know. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

C'mon now.. that's just crazy thought!! You're either with us or against us. If you're not part of the solution you are part of the problem. No rational thinking allowed here.. just pure emotion, this isn't a search for the truth.. it's a debate! -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Drive to Gananoque... do AFF. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

The avatar is pretty cool. Looks like she is going to go down shooting from both barrells! I seriously respect that. I personally believe that as an organization the right thing to do is let her go, but I also believe that it looks like she is the only one on that board to step up and show some balls to do what is right. Either way, it is bad for the USPA. Who's watch are we on here? Catch 22 for the members. Anyone think Chris Needles leaving has anything to do with this? Shitty situation for sure. I'm 99% sure I'm going to ditch the USPA and go with CSPA over this. I'm not a big fan of the CSPA, but at this point it seems that they are WAY less of a clusterfuck than the USPA. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

I think.. and this is a long shot... maybe just a dumb idea... If everyone screwed up, shouldn't the person who is in charge of the whole f'ing thing also be gone? I mean, isn't he ultimately responsible for the actions of the association as a whole? BTW the Toronto Maple Leafs finally fired John Ferguson Junior today. Good for them, it's been a long time coming. It was a good move. Maybe now that the top end management is being changed, they will be able to do some good as an organization. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

Why does being a DZO make someone bad for the BOD? Being a DZO that accepts Skyride tickets, and helps to keep them going by using their pull in the USPA... that's a different story all together. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

I'm sorry, I missed this earlier, and when someone quoted it later I picked up on it. Are you saying you think USPA BOD members are paid? ...that it is a paid position? I don't know if it is paid position or not.. but the group members pay for the organization to represent them. The BOD works for said organization. That's what I meant. I'm not saying that the BOD should sit idly (sp?) by whilst one of it's members goes on to commit fraud. For one if its directors to go on their own and publicly try to destroy the reputation of that member (which were doing a good job of it themselves already, but beside the point) before they have been convicted of anything.. especially while there are lawsuits pending, is extremely bad form. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

This is KEY! Fact 3 - Someone on the BOD used the influence of their position for the means of negatively affecting the commerce of the members of it's own organization. (JUDGE, JURY, EXECUTIONER) Whether it is morally right or wrong, it is grounds for removal. No organization can be allowed to accept this kind of behaviour from it's executive members. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson