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I believe the harness is reclined for comfort (PG flights can last hours). So your sitting not hanging. Most modern harnesses have a butt pad to help reduce compression fractures. It would be hard to PLF even under a BASE canopy if you stall the canopy close to the deck. Wouldn't it? I've seen people bury the breaks swing out in front and the canopy stalls, the person it belly up parallel to the deck with not enough time/distance to recover. I don't think a different harness position would change that much. Then again I'm not familiar with the video you mention. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

I agree, but I think everyone has over looked another group of people that transition well to flying BASE canopies (that have no skydiving experience). Those being PG pilots. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

Hate to change the subject, this is kinda related. On soul flyers 2 about 33 minutes into it, there is a reverse mounted camera that shows the rig he's using. At first I thought it might be a velcro rig but it shows the opening and its a two pin. Does anyone know what kind of rig that is? New manufacturer or new design maybe. Im really only familiar with asylum gear. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

You said "Bridgejumping is for training". Funny you should say that, I feel the same way about big wall jumps. I mean really, big wall jumps are practically a really low skydives, you use a slider and everything. Its so safe you have to track along the cliff just to make it more dangerous! Everybody knows real BASE jumpers throw insane aerials off ridiculously low objects and then have to run from the man. I agree with Faber, your not "REAL" BASE jumpers your just lazy hikers. Since we've defined what a real BASE jump is you can no longer log more than 25 big wall training jumps. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

Sam what are these guys talking about I learned that song in sunday school! Anyway nice job dude for sure. If you haven't already, you should get a copy, at 15 bucks its a steal. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

Lets see there is: "When good times go bad" "Standard Issue" "Radix" "Keen n able" "Superterminal" "Continuum" "The Ground is the Limit" "Around the World II" "Soul Flyers" 1 and 2 and a few ski flicks that have BASE sections: "High Society" "Higher Ground" and a climbing film "Masters of stone" The one with Andy W. and Marty T. forgot which one its #2 or #3. 10 or so "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

What about those who base jump but have never skydived? Should they take it up? I have been a lot more current in the past thats for sure. This year is the first year since I started that I haven't averaged 200 skyjumps or more. My currency seems to have suffered due to BASE, groundlaunching,and Paragliding (not to mention school/life in general). If Im not skydiving its usually because of paragliding. I have days when I get to combine a few of the activities, and weekends when I can do all four, which is always good. Atleast Im still on some type of wing. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

Honestly this is the moderators board, they are god on this site, he can change, delete, manipulate as they see fit. The trick is to find someone who has nothing to gain politically, financially, and has enough integrity to remain impartial and enforce the rules. In its current state I don't think everyone is represented fairly on the board. How about a moderator who doesn't know any of us, this way he could enforce the rules without personal relationships getting in the way. Not that Im in favor of censorship, but if the current rules stay in affect this person could blindly enforce policy. or How about changing the moderator every so often. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

Happy Birthday Joy! Thanks for all the work you do, it is greatly appreciated!

Dude you need one of these (1st pic). I got mine when I was working with them, not part of them mind you, just helping to pull people off the bigrocks (pic #3) on occation. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

Personally, I use my super secret high-speed low drag magic ninja boots! They provide absolutely no protection of the ankle whatsoever, but they're easy to cut off when you break your leg. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

You have a name, you skydive right? Thats profile information. Do yourself a favor ,and fill out the profile. It will give you some credibility (maybe). What Im having a hard time with is that you won't share an exit point with someone that can't quote newton, but you can't seem figure out how to fill in a few blanks about yourself on a forum profile. Dude, its ok if you just made a tandem last month (maybe abit premature to post on a base forum), but you gotta give alittle to get alittle. Did I mention you might want to fill in the profile. Also, the forum search function is an very valuable tool, it might keep you from asking something that might have been covered a few times already. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

It means fill out your profile, and stop trolling. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

Thank you "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

I think skydivers are DQ'd because of the mechanical means by which they gain their altitude. Neither are very fun to watch, but the skier has a better crash entertainment value. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

http://bundy.hibo.no/~blu/video/c6.wmv Its not skydiving but a fine example of why kids (or anyone for that matter) shouldn't be allowed on or near the landing area. I have nothing against kids, but if your going to neglect them at least chain them to a near by tree. Good times! "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

Neil buddy, pal, chum. Ok, maybe a little harsh. Your obviously a fan of florescent pink tights. You have to at least agree they smell funny. Now don't get your panties in a bunch. I was only joshing. People in Europe.....wow i never thought about what they might think....but then again who cares! Hey, I've got both eyes! Its alittle early in the relationship to have pet names for one another. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

I suppose you could do that or you could: Monday: 2 to 4 hour session at climbing gym (abs if I feel like it) Tuesday: Run 2 to 4 miles (= to < 10 min mile) Wednesday: Climb local 600ft antenna (take fast way down) Possible cardio if done noticeable like Thursday: upper body (push muscles ie...chest/tri/shoulders) Friday: 2 to 4 hour session at climbing gym (abs if I feel like it) OR just follow these guys around: OpeningShock "Silver" Forum User / Moderator Mar 17, 2005, 2:40 PM Post #1 of 7 (234 views) Copy Shortcut Higher than Mt. Everest.. Can't Post -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The GLC just finished a straight 10 day ground launching session with two groups. Both groups made over 20 launches each from "Storm" running a 2,100ft Bladerunning course. Each guy cimbed over 31,000ft (higher than Mt. Everest) in four days with only one day off between groups. The GLC recorded over 100 launches and 150,000ft climbed between March 6-16, 2005. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

Its not hindering growth, its funding it. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

pic#1 I haven't seen anything that big, but I saw a scorpion in saudi. pic#2 me and boat crew Pic#3 in a different desert, thats ok because I included this one to show off my incredible power of camouflage. I know you can't see me but Im the one in the center of the pic that looks amazingly like a desert plant, still can't tell. ok, im the one with the captain morgan face camo. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

I guess it’s not accurate to say you'd be teaching them how to BASE jump, but that you'd be teaching them how to jump from a bridge. Jumping from anything else (BA/E) would require more training. It only makes sense to prepare for something if you’re able. I hate to compare the two after I’ve worked so hard to separate them, but by that same logic, students starting the AFF program should go to the tunnel. That’s not feasible for some or economical for most. There are so many skills you could use toward base that if you even partially exposed yourself to each you might never get to jump. Besides does a skydiver with 500 freefly/swoop jumps really bring that much to the BASE table? I do agree that every BASE jumper should be sharpening the skills he has and learning the ones he doesn’t have. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

a canopy sports section maybe? "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

Well you've managed to say what I ment in way less the a third of my previous post! "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

This forum isn’t seeing allot of action today, and I’ve been thinking about a few things lately. Is it likely skydiving will ever be replaced as the main source of new BASE jumpers, if so than by what sports? I mean technically you could go to a tunnel and get hours of freefall, then take up ground launching for your canopy familiarity. Find a willing instructor (there will always be a few) and there you go. What about paragliding? I realize that PG isn't as popular in the states as it is in the rest of the world, but do you think there will be a higher percentage of new base jumpers coming into the sport with a PG background only? I’ve noticed recently some resistance to accepting those people. Of course they are world class athletes from another sport, but does that matter? Are these people the exception to the rules? I think that they are. I believe that there are certain personalities that are ideal for the base frame of mind. Those people can think quickly and react accordingly without hesitating more naturally than others. But these people may not as of yet be base jumpers. They might be skiers/boarders, motocross riders, or someone that works in a job that requires those same/similar skill sets to stay alive. I believe these people would have a much easier transition than your average skydiver. Like the basic mechanics of anything base movements are just monkey skills done/practiced enough can become second nature, but having the right mind set isn’t easily learned. So will the teaching of non-skydivers ever be accepted? Yes I know these people aren’t looking for acceptance, and I suppose nobody’s path to base is the same. I would guess that the majority have transitioned from skydiving. This to me does seem to be the most logical. Why the reluctance to see another way? What is so threatening about people learning to BASE jump without skydiving first? Why does this community seem to be so resistant to change? I think in part it has to do with the “good ole boy” type community that’s existed since base began here in the states. New members were screened and invited in, accepted and mentored. Usually friends of friends, so on and so on. This is how it’s always been. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. But things aren't like that anymore. Now days the number of would be jumpers out number the available mentors. Would be jumpers now turn to manufactures and instructors for hire. The "good ole boys" aren't the only people jumping these days and some have refused to fallow there rules. In A community such as this rules only apply if the person subscribes to them. If there are no repercussions for breaking the rules then they will continue to be stepped on. I think that base jumping is its own entity, owing a good deal of progression to skydiving, but separate none the less. You don’t see paragliding instructors start out students on old skydiving canopies (anymore). They start out on the little hill and progressively move up in level of difficulty. Why not be progressive, and teach students to baSe jump in order of difficulty. That doesn’t mean they could go jump a building right away, that’s foolish there not trained for it. I can't help but wonder about the future of the sport. I don't think it will ever replace Monday night football and I'm positive there will never be a peewee base jumping league. So you really can't call base mainstream, but it is on its way to something close. It certainly is in the spot light more than ever before. I’m sure to most "old timers" (said standing at attention hand over heart with the utmost respect) it already is, and I agree to an extent. Do you see the popularizing of base as a bad thing? I guess popularizing base means we won’t be part of a select few, and that means where just going to have to get over ourselves, and share the wealth. I could be missguided but Im sure the more out spoken among us will let me know that shortly. Oh, one more thing, is there a sport anywhere the French haven’t tried to ruin with there horrible accent and pink florescent tights i.e. climbing, skiing, skydiving, paragliding… .ect, geez is nothing sacred! These are just a few of the things I was thinking about, lots of observations from a bored newbie. "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%

I totally agree! "HIGAF" Honestly I Give A F*^%