Zoe Phin

olof, You think absorption of infrared radiation makes the source of that radiation warmer? What experimental evidence do you have? Why didn't Tyndall notice that?

Billvon, Your plants' temperature is set by the environment. If it's cold, they cool. If it's warm, they don't. This has nothing to do with plants radiating out to space. Put on a cold cover set to -5C, they will freeze. I don't know how you think less negative is positive. Let's say your plants are constantly heated underneath to 5C. Without a cover, you may get a gradient from 5C to -5C on a cold night. With a cover, you'll get 5C to 4C. There no extra temperature due to the cover at the source. All you're doing is trapping warmed air from convecting up. I just linked you to official data showing barely any increase in upwelling radiation from the presence of clouds. You can see different amount of radiation going to space and it makes no practical difference to surface upwelling radiation. "So there are no clouds in Antarctica? " There's an inversion. It gets hotter as you move up the atmosphere. That's where the clouds are. "you could not use a room temperature laser" The container may seem to be room-temperature, but the thermochemical process driving it is certainly not.

Sorry, Billvon, looks like we'll have to wait for moderator to clear my post for you.

"There's plenty of experimental evidence" Such as?

Farmers also know that adding a cover doesn't raise the temperature. Less cooling is not warming. Less negative is not positive. http://phzoe.com/2020/04/08/do-blankets-warm-you/ As to why it's warmer during a cloudy night versus a clear night, the proper question should be asked: Why are there clouds to begin with? The answer: because it's warm enough to have them. If it wasn't, they would've never formed or would have rained out. There is horizontal heat transfer. Warmth picks up water vapor in the Carribean and then rain drops in Georgia (where I live). I don't consider that a mystery. But what if we take the globe as a whole and thereby nullify horizontal heat/mass transfer? Then you get: http://phzoe.com/2021/02/12/effect-of-clouds-on-global-upwelling-radiation/ 'How does the outer sphere "know" to send all its energy outwards?' Energy only flows from hot to cold. We call this energy: heat. Why does a waterfall have water falling down? How does the river know not to send water up?

I'm just a stupid stay-at-home mom with a degree from an Ivy League that manages over $100 million dollars, employs 23 people, and has taken 7 semesters of physics and astronomy courses (while earning her degrees). Why would I know anything about science? I don't credit my success to the type of economics I learned in school. And if that was a lie, what else can be? It's funny to watch climate alarmists believe they have a basis in science. They don't. They have zero experimental evidence and zero thermodynamical basis. All they have is post-hoc and affirming-the-consequent logical fallacies. Do you have any questions?