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Hi Dave, Thanks I appreciate your concern, and your right PTSD is a bitch and could be caused just as easily watching and hearing a swoop gone bad as watching a bike accident. I have seen many of both and hope to never see either again. I'm sorry are you saying a hook turn gone bad is normally safe? As in riding around a turn at 80 mph is always going to cause an accident? Unless you have additional information as to the cause of this accident that wasn't given you don't know the cause of the accident. Just as when someone hooks in you may not know what caused the accident. That's my point, do you think it is perfectly okay for someone to hook w/o a helmet, that at x mph winds to still down wind a swoop? If they do break one of your rules do you award them the asshole award? Do I wish he hadn't had the accident - yes Do I wish he had worn a helmet - yes Do I know if there was gravel in the road-no Should he have been going that fast - no Does that make him an - "asshole" in your book yes And that my friend is what makes this a great country. Your welcome to your thoughts and I mine. For me to cast a blanket "asshole" without knowing a lot more details is out of my realm, but your comfortable with it - so "good on ya" Be safe riding and jumping. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Hey Dave, please tell me that every hook turn accident you have seen, you describe the canopy pilot as an "asshole" It drives me freak'n crazy when people are irresponible, especially while skydiving. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Oh no does this mean that Bill post "takes one to the head" Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Bill, Bill, Bill................this one falls way way below your normal standards. Please tell us simple folks who read your post when they are out of coffee that you'll climb BACK to the top of your lofty standards. Weak Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

"Wow, that's a lot of coin!" LOL, I'd say that was some serious coin Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

I guess I should have add that one as part options Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

With the number of big ways coming up most people, unless they don’t have to work are going to have to pick and chose the events they want to go to. It got me thinking of what are the deciding factors to which event people select to spend there hard earned time off and dollars at. In the past, for me, it was getting in front of the right people to try earn a slot for WT 06. Now it’s more about vibs, location, quality of jumps, and timing. (I’ve missed enough school plays for big ways). So what’s the most important reason you select a big way event? Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

07 really is shaping up to be a good year for big stuff. Assuming that Roger does Cross Keys and BJ does Kaleidoscope. TSR 150 way, Guys 200 way and now Perris "really big" whatever it is, that's a pretty full year for most of us. After WT I thought I would want to take a long break from big ways but I think it just made it worse! Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Guy Wright is doing a 200 way sequential attempt in March and there is another 150 way sequential attempt in Texas in April. Looks like 07 might be the year of the "big way" sequential. I wish there was someway to standardize and sequential big ways to make them a true record. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Larry who from WT? Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

(A friend asked me to post this) STOLEN RIG TAKEN FROM SKYDIVE DELAND ON SATURDAY MAY 13TH. AERODYNE ICON SPORT I5 ROYAL BLUE, WHITE TRIM TAPE, RED PIN FLAPS RED PILOT CHUTE, RED MONKEY FIST RED CUTAWAY HANDLE DOM 08/05 SN: 263455 SMART RESERVE 160 DOM 05/05 SN: 263060 CYPRESS 1 EXPERT 110 FT. AIRTECH DOM 10/00 SN: 50414A645FCB2200 SABER 170 (first generation) Orange, Maroon, Hot Pink, Sky Blue – Sky Blue slider No serial number Please contact Kim-Cherie Henry 321.438.0116 Email: henr89562@bellsouth.net Deland Police Dept. case # DL060003978 Officer M. Godwin - 33 Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Now we are back to John's thread topic, unless you want to ask me about my regular pilot chute, uncollapsed slider, no booties, no helmet and why I don’t put my hands through the toggles. *** Okay I'll bite on this one but ahy would you not put your hand through the toggles. (I know you'll have a good answer I just can't come up with one) Besides who cares if with screw with Johns thread Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Hey Scott, Who's going to organize this? Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

I stand corrected. It may be a small number but it a number. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Boy I KNOW better to question Bill, but it's slow at work.... *** ..... Because when an Iraqi hears that his father/brother/friend was tortured to death by the americans, ...... *** Okay, Bill would you please confirm the torture and killing of an Iraqi by AMERICANS. I mean a creditable case. Not degrading pictures "tortured to death". One that we captured and then "tortured to death" Maybe I missed something in the news. Or perhaps you were just trying to make a point. I'd really like to hear your answer to this because comments like that just stir the pot. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

You GOT to like the name. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

LOL-don't have a slot, if THAT's what your asking. WT sucked up all my time so I guess it will depend if Lou and Guy think I w/b an asset. I'm not "gold" like you Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

More importantly who's trying to get a slot on the two point, two hundred way next year? Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

Man I wish it wasn't raining here, I'd go jump instead of trying to make myself clear here. I'm afraid I don't communicate well on line. 1. The "risk" that you seem to be trying to educate me on, I believe, is the risk to the rigger should something happen to me. I've ask what happens after an accident and the only reply was (basically) why should I have to go through all the heart burn to prove I DIDN'T pack it. I agree that if someone pen packed the reserve w/o the understanding of there rigger it's wrong. If the rigger - as in my case - knows that from time to time this might happen then they take the risk they may have to prove they didn't sign off on the rig BUT they get to keep the $$ from the re-pack. Again, the "risk" is between me and my rigger. It is an agreed upon risk that we both accept that benifits us both. Okay, 1. Someone signs my name to their card without my permission, having NOT done the jumps, I'd be pissed. Someone is on the way to another dz and has completed the work but I didn't for some reason sign them off (the pen that I use to pen-pack my rig ran out of ink) and they forged my name. N.P. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

right, it's running about 10 to 3 that you sounded.............ahhh never mind Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

LOL Okay here we go in real plain english. 1. The rigger doesn't care becaue the rigger would rather do the pack job later than not at all. 2. While some may be worried that if "something happens" they'll (me) get in trouble, for me that falls below my "worry" level. 3. Did I ask the rigger "mind if I forge your name" NO because that could make the rigger liable 4. Does the rigger know I have done this? Yes cause he packs the reserve and can read. and lastly but a repeat - IF the rigger got mad and didn't want to pack for me because of it I would understand and GO to another rigger. Folks a lot of people handle this a lot of different ways and A LOT of riggers do to. In a perfect world or perfect people it wouldn't happen. But it does. Lastly I try not to do "very un-cool things" I'm sure I fail from time to time - but not in this case. I now will crawl back under my rock Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

How about? "Joe, can I bring my dog to the dz if I clean up after him" Bet he would have said "no" But the old I "might spend a lot of money with you....maybe...IF we train there...." got you a smart reply. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

but with 100000 jumps surely you'd not be to freaked out to jump a slightly out of date reserve? Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

You know I really have gotten something out of this thread (scarey) I have used a riggers name, had the rigger pack it (after a pen-pack) within a week or two. The rigger wasn't hurt because the time/to money ratio was the same. I got to go to the boogie (or whatever) The rigger didn't re-date it or anything. It was a service provided to me by a very trusted rigger who I want to do my rigging. A lot of jumpers have trusted riggers. For some of the posters they want a by the book rigger. Some of us (not all) weren't going to shit if our repack is out of date-and like it or not there are plenty of riggers who feel the same way. I notice that THESE riggers aren't saying much here but the ones that get really mad are. Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

I just ignore it. Works for me Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little