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Nope. Read. I'll help direct you a bit. In addition to page 17, the following excerpt is a nice little summary that should serve to enlighten you: "Intragovernmental holdings represent balances of Treasury securities held by individual funds, primarily trust funds, that typically have an obligation to invest their excess annual receipts over disbursements in federal securities. Most federal trust funds invest in special U.S. Treasury securities that are guaranteed for principal and interest by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government. These securities are nonmarketable, however, they represent a priority call on future budgetary resources. Certain of these trust funds such as the Social Security and federal civilian employee and military retirement trust funds, have been running annual surpluses, which are loaned to the Treasury and reduce the current need for the government to borrow from the public. Primarily as a result of such trust fund surpluses, intragovernmental holdings have increased by approximately $637 billion since September 30, 1997, with about $247 billion of this increase occurring in fiscal year 2000. The transactions relating to the use of the funds’ surpluses net out on the government’s consolidated financial statements because, in effect, they represent loans from one part of the government to another. Importantly, these intragovernmental holdings also constitute future obligations of the Treasury since the Treasury must provide cash to redeem these securities in order for the funds to pay their benefits or other obligations as they come due. When this occurs, the government must fund these redemptions through some combination of reduced future surpluses, if available; lower relative spending for federal programs; higher relative taxes; and/or greater relative borrowing from the public." Apparently you think you know more than the Comptroller of the United States. Who, by the way, agrees that there was a BUDGET surplus. As do I. You might start by taking baby steps ala Bill Murray (fantastic flick). Start looking in the mirror and say "The debt did not decrease under Clinton's tenure as President" a few times. Then work you way up to "SS and military retirement trust funds were raided during Clinton's tenure as President and that money must be paid back someday"...then once you've practiced by yourself for a bit, come and see us and admit the same thing. Admit it...or not...facts they are and forever will be. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

I think you should work on reading comprehension yourself. If the government had really taken in more $$ than it expended then the debt would have decreased. It did not, due to the government incurring obligations to itself - as it has done in several administrations. The debt held by the public was decreased with the so-called surplus. There was no cash on hand as the debt did not decrease - its structure was merely change by the amount of the BUDGET surplus. This report does a pretty good job of explaining that, had you bothered to read it from my last post. A nice graph on page 17 will show you how the debt has increased all throughout EJC's tenure - though its rate did slow towards the end, increase the debt in fact did. Dodge it as often as you like, facts are stubborn things and dodge or not - remain facts. EJC's surplus was not in fact a surplus. Were that the case, the debt would have decreased. It was a budget and not execution surplus, as if an execution surplus had occurred the debt would have decreased - it did not. Deal with it however you like. A fact it does remain. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

They're both a far cry worse off than the man who claimed that he missed all parts of an illegal conversation because he had drank too much iced tea and had to take frequent restroom breaks, aren't they? I know - you don't like the question. I'll answer - yes, they are far worse off than he. And they've earned their fate (unless the indicted is proven innocent). When will Sandy Berger take his court ordered lie detector test? Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt.htm A quick perusal of historical debt data collected by the government entity that tracks such things shows the public debt did not decrease at all during EJC's tenure - and certainly not under GWB or GHWB or the Great Ronald Reagan. A nice GAO report on the FY 99 debt and its structure should infuriate everyone: Clicky EJC's budget surpluses - and there were BUDGET surpluses - were used to reduce the debt held by the public. There's a LOT of debt held by the government right now from several presidents and congresses - Republican and Democrat. Medicare alone has over $30 trillion from what I've read. Lawrocket is correct - the debt did NOT decrease and the BUDGET surplus was and only a budget and not an execution surplus. Debt did not decrease. Debt will not decrease until all entitlement programs are put upon the table and re-examined for fiscal feasibility. All of them. But that is unlikely to happen. The mere mention of opposition to an entitlement not even passed is enough to turn sane and passionate people into absolute fucktards incapable of fundamental logic. The mention of repealing entitlements already in place would send many over the edge. That's EXACTLY what needs to occur, however - among other things; cuts to discretionary spending being first and foremost among them. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

If he's guilty, I hope he's convicted. This Senator has been rather prolific in earmarks if memory serves. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Happy Bday! Hope John does something nice for you!

Not at all. Government pretty much fucks up everything it does as compared with private industry. With national debt being a major problem for the U.S. the LAST thing I'd like to see is health care socialized. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Public education is free K-12 here in the USA - courtesy of state governments. I do NOT want to government to do for U.S. health care what it's done for our education system. Socializing health care won't exactly cure budge woes, BTW. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

So now a baboon level intellect manipulated intelligence, fooled Congress (who funds it), AND found time to hatch a plot to disrupt world oil markets. Aha! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Oh Rick, you're so going to get it. My $$ would be on Scarlett.

Oooooh....add a PA to the mix and the plot thickens more... tsk tsk tsk. And left wingers wonder why I laugh so hard on occasion... Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

So now he's not a sinister mastermind...but a puppet of sinister masterminds... This keeps getting better and better. And now Kallend attempts to defend the indefensible with Congress! Who needs cable with this sort of entertainment? I'll be smiling much larger than usual when I hit the office in a few minutes! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

So the man you allude to as a fucking idiot ingeniously decided to start a war to destabilize oil markets years later so oil companies could make a profit...I see... What kind of plot would a smart person have hatched to make a profit? Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

So now the war is about destabilizing oil prices...first it was for revenge on the mean old Mr. Hussein for trying to assassinate GWB's daddy...then it was FOR oil...and then it was for DoD contractors...and NOW it's to destabilize the world oil markets!!! Bwaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!!!! NOW we get it!!!!! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Speaking of smoking...a few things... - the democrats have control of both the house and senate - which branch of government controls oil prices, exactly? - which branch of government forced idiots to buy homes they couldn't afford, exactly? Those, among many others, cross my mind. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

My foot is feeling great - running recommences this week (on a light basis of course) I did some badass yoga yesterday and a great legs/back combo this morning. Hope you enjoy the bike!

Oh that's so true - it's only the AF's turn in the limelight now. Creative interpretation of certain parts of the FAR have really led to some screwed up decisions - like cost contracting for work that CAN be accurately estimated. WTF? I think a lot of good does remain - and definitely some sharp people/managers, but dear God there is such a massive amount of crap. There are so many cases when I think - who the FUCK was on that BVAC or TEB? Or what in God's name was the SSA thinking? Disgustingly bad examples get far more press than the good. The Navy just delivered the latest submarine addition to the fleet under budget by over US$50 million and over six months ahead of sked.

I think the majority of Americans are outraged by this - the vast majority. AF has had several bad screw ups in the last few years acquisition wise. This one in particular is pretty amazing. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Increase spending? Yes, that he did. At the time it was the right thing to do in some areas, though in retrospect I wish he hadn't been so prolific. Being a President is more than having your OMB produce a budget to submit to Congress (remember who controls the $$ after all, Sir John). It's about leading - and Reagan did that EXCEPTIONALLY well in many regards. Don't worry, Sir John. At some point, the f-tards in the NEA will dumb down another generation and those of us who remember the era will be drowned out. You'll be able to malign the great man and have people actually believe you wholeheartedly. Of course, they won't be able to add, subtract, and might be barely literate, but the Democrats DO need to increase their voting base, right? Morons dependent upon the state vice themselves are always a voting base upon which the left can depend. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Read the book and get some details, amigo...allowing the Saudis - and the Pakistani ISI - to direct the aid was where we screwed up. I just ordered a used one off of Amazon. When I get it, I'll let you borrow it. It really is a great read.

Actually, in retrospect it was not his policy of support for the Afghan resistance (I'm not a Soviet supporter; that's how I refer to it), rather his policy of allowing the Saudis to direct that support. Read Coll's book - superb work there. I'm not just stating that to make a point - it is a VERY well researched and insightful read. I'd actually like to get a copy and reread it. Need to find the local library anyway...

Steve Coll wrote an excellent book called GHOST WARS. You should read it. You might also review history and familiarize yourself with something known as the Cold War. Reagan did more good than bad - far more. What really yanks left wingers' chains is the fact that Reagan didn't let their bullshit sway him left. Firing the ATC bubbas was fantastic! Clicky Clicky Clicky Great man.

EJC's reign was after Reagan left office...Reagan's Alzheimer's prevented him from being more active after his presidency. He did great good for the country and the world while in office.

Reagan is hands down my favorite president of my short lifetime. What a fantastic American. It's hard to believe it's ben 20 years since he left office. Just think of the one-liners he would have produced about El Jefe Clintonista and friends!

Check these out! They're badass shots of Mars by ESA's spacecraft. Clicky Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!