Nicholas Broughton

The DZ is still there, I didn’t think the log books would help after I learned the guy didn’t jump but it just occurred to me that if the log books are still around I could check the names of everybody who jumped on that day and interview them. I’m going to find out if there are log books still around from 71.

I live in Lake Elsinore Marty. Lyle Cameron who was running the paracenter at the time was the guy who told the fbi this when they came to the DZ shortly after norjack. Lyle passed away in a plane crash in Honduras in 93. I talked to his son Lyle Cameron Jr. I read him the fbi 302 and he said he heard the exact same report verbatim not directly from his dad but one of his dads skydiving buddies (couldn’t recall names thinks maybe Jerry Tyson) matching description, smoking Raleigh’s, Cochran boots, asking questions on how to jump out of a Jet. I asked if he made a jump he said no just came asked questions and left. He also added that the jumpers described him as being geeky looking same terminology Mitchell used for describing cooper. I asked Cameron jr if any of those guys there that day might still be alive he said most likely there all dead. Another interesting tidbit, Mark Metzler said at the conference that Elsinore was a known recruiting hub for the CIA. One of the last two people jack ruby called before he killed Oswald was Lyle Cameron Sr. It’s in the fbi files. I brought this up with his son and he also knew about this and has also been puzzled...to quote him “what was ruby doing calling my old man.” He believes his dad worked for the government and was killed by them. My guess is cooper wasn’t a sports jumper and wasn’t a regular jumper in the military, most likely a fighter pilot who had one emergency jump or something so he was sent or advised to go to lake elsinore and talk to Lyle (pioneer of the sport, started skydiving magazine) to do some homework for norjack. That could explain why Tina saw cooper look at the packing cards. That’s something a sports jumper would tell him to look for and where there located. This Elsinore incident is too big of a coincident to me, a guy matching description smoking Raleigh’s and asking about jumping out of jets 3 months prior, it has to be related. I believe this incident and the incident a week before norjack where there was a report of flares being dropped from a low flying plane in cottage grove Oregon to the Eugene are both directly related to the case.

Fly I disagree with you...Bruce (top norjack expert), the pilot bill, northwest orient employees (see loren Peterson interview) are all on record of saying they believed this guy had a supreme level of knowledge about the aircraft in question, the Boeing 727. That night the fbi had to call one of klansnics coworkers, Peter Gallimore a flight ops engineer from the very department Klansnic worked in, Boeing commercial airplanes. They wanted to determine if somebody could parachute out safely and if the plane could fly safely with the metrics cooper requested (see tribute to Peter Gallimore) If he wasn’t an expert then how did he know about the exclusive 727 flap setting of 15 degrees? It’s not like he requested it as if given intructions on what to tell them. He was actually asked what he wanted the flaps at and he said 15. Per loren Peterson he gave specifics on how to fill the fuel tanks, he wanted a certain balance of the fuel tanks and he knew exactly how long it took to fuel up. There are enough tells there to assume he was a 727 expert. You point at one thing about him having Tina lower it. That can be debated and there could be many reasons. Being a radar tech wouldn’t expose use to fusion welding fumes which would give you the combo of the rare earths and the toxic particles. How do you account for all to toxic particles with hahneman? It’s not so much about wearing a black clip on tie because your right it wasn’t uncommon but it’s about linking wearer of the tie to the environment that can account for the biggest particle family tree which I believe I’ve done.