Nicholas Broughton

Yeah. Good luck with that!

New podcast episode on the case, featuring Mr. 302 himself, Ryan Burns. If Ryan’s opinions are wacky then Fly’s are downright bizarre. Like Tina actually taking some of the ransom money from Cooper and later throwing it in the river near Tbar LOL!

It’s a repetitive pattern with Fly. Losing debate, uses the privileged info (Flyjack special), then plays victim. You are lying to discredit me, you are bashing and trashing me! Rinse and repeat. I feel bad for the poor folks who play tennis with guy.

Precisely, apples to oranges. Everyone is entitled to share as much or as little of their research as they wish. I don’t take issue with that. But if you’re going to use that as the reason for not doing media, coupled with an agreement to not discuss the case publicly, when you clearly do so everyday, it’s not satisfactory for me. If I think something doesn’t make sense, It’s my prerogative to call bullshit, just as much as it is for somebody to keep proprietary research under their hat!

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander hehe.

Yes, thankfully insurance is covering everything and he’ll be moving into a brand new house in 8-10 months time.

No but if you ever find yourself down in south Florida, I’m sure he’d be happy to meet you up for lunch.

Just got word, he’s fine. The site got hacked by a group in Turkey. He’s working to restore.

Absolutely, has anyone talked to shutt lately? Noticed the forum part of his website has been down. I hope he’s doing okay.

Yes, it’s a classic episode. I had the treat of being in the hotel room when they recorded it, the day before Cooper Con 2019. Mark is a real gem, just the kindest warmest guy you will ever meet. He coined the term, The Cooper Vortex. If only one person in the world could know who Cooper was, I’d want it to be Mark without question. Looking forward to meeting you at The DB Cooper Conference this year Haggar!

Agreed.

Yeah. I think we need to consider the source on this one. Biggest coward in the Vortex claiming people are scared and don’t have the game for it lol. I know, I know, you have a project you are working on with others and they asked you not to discuss the case publicly. If I’m blind then you must be hard of hearing because you discuss the case publicly on a daily basis.

I don’t want anything. I just calls ‘em like I sees ‘em. You have made my point, now carry on…

Right and that is EU’s call, it’s his group. FWIW I knew about Fly’s Jacque Voler alias account on the group since day one and never said anything to EU or anyone else about it. Fly has had an open Invite from EU to Cooper Con’s since 2021, and has one with the new regime. Same goes for Ryan’s YouTube channel, and The Cooper Vortex podcast. Maybe you need to get your facts right William.

“I have never left for anything forum related, I have left many times but for personal stuff……”

Oh so now that’s the reason you left hmmm. Might want to get your “story” straight. We all know you left because Ryan posted the Hahneman files. You’re not fooling anyone here, it’s comical at this point.

This forum doesn’t have an audience and you don't have to speak or show your face here. That takes some guts and it’s what I mean by safe confines. Internet forums are a thing of the past, incase you haven’t noticed. Oh and news flash, you can do media without sharing your top secret research information. You have no shortage of research and opinions on the case, which you have shared on this public forum and shutter's site over the years, that the modern day cooperite will never be exposed to because they are dead and buried on those outlets. The majority of the people interested in the case today weren’t around in the “forums” era to soak up your superior NORJAK case knowledge. It's a cop out and nobody is buying it. Given how irked you are regarding the misquoting and trashing of your research and analysis, one would think you’d be jumping at the chance to set the record straight. But instead you duck like a coward and use some lame excuse. If had to hazard a guess as to the real reason, I'd say it’s rooted in an insecurity. Maybe you have a hard time properly pronouncing the names of people, places, and things associated with the case or something.

That’s funny, I think the only one afraid is Flyjack. He’s too scared to step outside the safe confines of the dropzone forum. Runs from media opportunities like it’s the plague, won’t do podcasts, youtube, cooper cons, ect. He’s hid behind this “project” for over a decade. Put me on record, if it ever comes out, I’ll retire from the case/vortex.

Tom talked about this at CC23. Here is a video of the presentation in case anyone missed it.

Tom K “indicated” no such thing! He only cited the rolling on the river bottom theory as a possible explanation for the misalignment of the bundles. Here is what he has to say in regards to degradation (not erosion) of the bills.

TK "It is theorized that fanned out bundles should become mis-aligned while tumbling along the river bottom over time." What is the source of this TK quote?

Confirmation bias is a helluva drug

John Granados and Ted Braden were both with the 101st Aviation Co in 1958-59. According to John he took a few pictures of Braden during that time period, including this one in the boonies of Fort Brag (1958) during Operation White Cloud. I asked John what he’d estimate his height to be and he said maybe 5’8. This would of been based on how John saw him which would of been in army boots. For reference, John was a fairly tall guy standing at 6ft. I say was because John recently passed away last month, a few weeks after our communication. John Granados was a true OG in the sport parachuting world. He started jumping in Elsinore/Perris during the early 1960’s and was a member of the famed Latin skydivers club, which as fate/vortex would have it put him on the feds radar for NORJAK. The FBI looked at this club early on in their investigation. With witnesses describing Cooper as having a darker complexion and his presumed parachuting background, it was an obvious place to look. The bottom line is FIVE FOOT EIGHT in army boots makes Braden a non starter!

Makes perfect sense to me. The money was precounted and prepackaged The serial were prerecorded. The entire purpose of this stash of money was to make everything easy in the event something like this happened. Repackaging the money defeats the entire purpose.,