Ron

Promise to get fixed? Well we have less to worry about. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Easy...I was in the MILITARY on ORDERS when I did that. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

The problem is you could not use Birth control and no abortions...so: You would have to make MUCH more money. And WE would have more of YOU running around. I think we can all agree thats not a good idea for any of us. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And by some peoples thoughts stopping a sperm is ending life and not allowed. I don't agree with that, but it is the far side of one argument. The other side is Zen and his view. The real answer I doubt is on either extreme. I also doubt that anyone here has that answer no matter how much we think we do. All we have are stongley held beliefs..all based on logic we think is sound. I have yet to see ANYONE bring fact...All I see is rhetoric. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Yes, I would. For the record I have been one of 4 jumpers in a C-130 that was flown from VA to Ft.Bragg for the sole reason of flying me and my three buddies for ONE jump in the middle of nowhere (Laurenburg DZ.) with no one around. Also, Ask Kallend that same question. AND he is the PRESIDENT they need to move him anyway and I bet that flight was cheeper than AF1 flying one circit around the field. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

There is a difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL. And that is the difference. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No you are saying its not a life since it has no biological functions. See your own words fight you. Have a nice day. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Luckily Kerry brought his own camera to record his heroics. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I would call the press...they may not care, but I would call them. Besides you forget the press follows him when he makes ANY speech and if they could they would have a man in the bathroom while he takes a shower. The Banner...Well you would give the speech in fromt of what ever they hung behind you. From the DNC: Kerry : "Reporting for Duty" (Weak ass salute followed) And lets not forget his "Home movies" from that time...All filmed to make him look like a hero. QuoteWhere are all the people who called Clinton a draft dodger? Why aren't they speaking up about them? Quote If I could keep from going to war legally I would...how about you? If I could keep my son from going to war I would...How about you? Clinton lied to avoid the draft, Bush Sr. pulled strings to keep Jr. from fighting. The others got legal deferments. My problem with Kerry is he has always tried to be JFK II..and he will do what he thinks he has to do to become popular to become President...He is whatever the polls want him to be. He is not a leader. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Good question. I'm not religious. So I don't feel the need to take any religious scripture as the only way. I really do respect those that are religious and ACTUALLY live the life they preach. I have no moral issues with killing for the better good of all. I am Pro-Choice and for Capital Punishment. I also think a criminal that gets killed in the act of comiting of a crime is a good thing. I look at the possible results and effects of an action and make my choice from there. I think it is much worse for a child to be born into poverty with few chances of a good life, or a child limiting the life of it's parents. Not popular views, but it is what I believe. To many children are born with out a chance. Many more drasticly change the lives of others. If the person is not ready for a child, the chances of that child having a good life is reduced...Rates of abuse are higher with unplanned children. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

This is funny: But then you also say: That is hypocrisy at its best...The thing I know you best for. Have a nice day since you will hold on to your limited definitions, and assume they are the only correct answers. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

The problem is that many religions state that it is wrong to destroy "seed". "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I'm actually FOR abortion. So the Morning after pill is a great idea. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I follow you reasoning to a point.... I differ in the pulling the plug part. A fetus WILL become a child if let to go to term...A Vegetable will not always recover and in some cases maybe never. For the record I am for both abortion and pulling the plug. Abortion since a good number who get pregnant by accident are not in a position to care for a child. And if a person is not ready for that commitment it should not be forced on them. Pulling the plug because I think when brain activity stops...The person is dead. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

If you were given the chance to fly in the "bitch seat" of a jet on a carrier landing...Would you do it? I have flown "bitch" in many aircraft and I would kill to land in a jet on a carrier. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Wow who pissed in your corn flakes? You seem really angry...Try taking the little blue pill. While you are correct that both egg and sperm are "alive" they need each other to form a "Life" as we are talking about. A sperm by its self is not a life, otherwise we could charge millions of teenagers with murdering millions with a sock. And an egg is not a life since we don't normally flush children down a toilet. However when egg and sperm meet...It forms a life...It may not be a fully formed human, but the end result is one...Until that meeting you have not started any process that ends with a human. Maybe you need to work on your definitions some more. Only by your NARROW defintion does biological functions need to be present. And that is the error in your logic. You are not an expert on this, so your defintion is not the last word. It is only your OPINION. And since it seems you refuse to look past a firmly held narrow minded set of definitons.. There is no point in continuing with you..AGAIN. Have a nice day. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No I have a problem with YOUR definitions. I think they are limited in scope. You have a right to value your definitions and others have the right to have others...Cool huh? No again only by YOUR definitions... Some say life forms when egg and sperm meet. YOU don't like the definition, but last I checked you were not the end all authority. I don't like your definition and you don't like mine. You have a problem because I don't recongnize you as the expert, or your word as fact. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Sorry didn't see the second post. But still, I can admit that at times the Us can be arrogant...But so can every other country. I was ashamed when our Gold medalists acted like jackasses back in 1996....But then again...Hell it would be hard to contain myself if I just won. America gets a bad rap cause we are so big and have so much. We are easy to see cause we are in the spot light. Assuming all Americans are arrogant is like assuming all SA are racist, Englishmen are pale and weak, Germans are all drunks, or Commies are "Evil". It's wrong. The French however are still cowards "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I mean geeze some of the first people to jump on the Bash the US bandwagon are from countries that have FAR worse things that have happend. SA...Hows Nelson doing these days? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Don't bother to argue with Zen on this... He has a strong opinion which is his right. He can't defend that position very well, but he is allowed his opinion. But in truth most can't decide where life starts. He takes the "It can live on it's own" stance. (In that case I'd say we can abort till about 18 ) Others take the stance at conception. I don't have a problem with abortion based on I think to many children are born into families that don't want/can't handle kids. There should be a test before you can have kids. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I can understand you being happy for SA... But why be glad that a young man (With mad skill) that has worked hard as hell (Harder than most people EVER will for ANYTHING) for trying to reach big? And why be happy he fails? That seems cheap and petty. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Quade... I'd still like you to find me ONE case of a guy fixing a bayonett and killing someone in the US other than in a war. And I would like you to show me how a flash supressor makes any difference... Or how a semi auto (Remember Full auto have been outlawed for civilians since 1938) M-16 look alike is any more dangerous than any of these I can buy today if I want from my local Walmart. http://www.walmart.com/promos/2003_Walmart_Kiosk.pdf In fact for most people a shotgun is a better weapon than a rifle. And if I wanted to snipe someone a Win270 with a scope (COMPOSITE STALKER 270 6lbs 11oz 2361463371 $530.84) I could have one in three hours. So the ban really has not done much of anything. Its just made the bad guys use uncool looking guns. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

How is a gay person at fault for my failed marriage? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well, I think the guy should have an opinion. But in the end it is the womans body. But since BOTH parties are affected for 18 years at least...I think both should talk about it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I'll live there was life before Dz.com,, and there will be life after. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334