Ron

Whats hard about getting a job? 17,680...I lived on that for several years...And managed to skydive some. Substance abuse is their fault. Domestic Violence...again them. Low literacy...did they not got o school? Did they try in school? Don't have kids if you can't support them. Now, if thery are physically or mentally disabled...I can see supporting them. But if they are able boddied and just not willing...Then nope. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I spent enough time in the service and I have enough time in the real world to know that in both places people don't get fired for doing a good job. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

It does not take an expert to realize that good performance is not normally rewarded by removing the guy from the job. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

When one group starts saying that their opposing canidate does not show up for work...It is fair game to show that their canidate has the same problem. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No one NEEDs a bayonet stud on a rifle...But then again no one NEEDS to skydive, or have nice watch, or drive a BMW. Some people LIKE them. Some people like having military weapons from ALL ages...I have a friend that collects old swords...He NEEDS none of them. The point is whats the harm? Have you ever seen someone fix a bayonet and go on a stabbing spree? The anti gun crowd just want to ban ANY weapon and its easy to ban the "evil" looking ones. It's easy to ban things the public may not need. It starts with Bayonet lugs and Magazines over 10 cap...It then moves to any weapon that can hold any magazine sice anyone with any knowledge knows that with any training you can switch mags in a few seconds. It then moves on from there. Heres one. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well the Good General was removed from his position. Very rarely does one get removed for doing a GOOD job. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

OK So ONE MILLION are not looking for work, but get full benefits. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I guess the answer is "When the Left wingers will admit their hypocrisy and partisanship." "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Wow did this get posted from there yet? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

If you do find the time please list Jolly old England as well and few other countries. 1. No country is perfect. 2. Pride in your country is good. 3. Being blind and thinking your country is perfect is bad. We ALL are proud and it is easy to point out how other countries have problems. The simple fact is that if you are not proud of your country....There might be something wrong with you. Also if you HATE a country and have not spent time there...There is probley something wrong with you. Its easy to point out others problems. The French however are still free game "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

With all respect I answered it...you just don't like the answer. One last time....It is not "leeching" to use aid to get out of a bad spot. It is leeching to live on it. Again you glaze over what I say. I'll try it ONE last time. I am not opposed to helping people out who TRY. I am opposed to people being lazy and me paying for them to live while they do nothing. My quote is nothing of the sort. That quote is saying that I will help those who try to help themselves. But I don't want to help those that are not willing to work. If a person is lazy I could not care if they starve. If a person is trying, I have no problem helping them. I don't know why you are so fired up about this, and I don't care. If you wish to talk about it, calm down...Keep blasting me and I will not answer. Feel like blasting me? Send a PM or Email. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

It does not take two years to get a job. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Its a flip/flop dude. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

PROVE otherwise. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You seemd to have missed the "at the very time we are negotiating with North Korea" part. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

find me saying the words it was not a PR stunt. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Or the views of the give it all away left. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No you just are not understanding my answer. True and there are many that don't. The ones that use welfare as a crutch...GREAT! The ones that use it instead of getting job I don't want getting a dime. Its cause I CONTRIBUTE to society...did you not get that the first time I wrote that? I have NEVER used a social program, but I have paid for them for 16+ years. So if I was given the opportunity I would take a ride. Plus you seem to know nothing about the Military...Pilots have to get hours. They fly all by themselves all the time to get the numbers they need. Hey stud find where I am opposed to it for those who need it, and WORK for it? I have said not to just GIVE it to them and make them WORK for it... That is a big difference. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well I don't mind HELPING people who are trying to HELP themselves. I do mind providing them a living while they don't do squat in return. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Huh....EVERTHING the President does is a "publicity stunt"...It's kinda his job. As for his service...Well he did serve and you have yet to prove he has not...As opposed to other past Presidents. I will grant you that Kerry did serve...I will also say that he did it to try and be popular, and when it was not popular he flopped to the anti-war side. They follow him to the golf course...they follow him to meetings, they follow him on his ranch. Of couse they are going to be at a speach....What do you think they are gonna do? Ignore a speach? Like it or not he IS a "Military President"...He was in the Military and he is President. If sKerry wins he also will be a "Military President". And the reason for going to war...SH was not in power and his forces were destroyed. Was finished. Najaf is rebels, not the Republican Guard. And he is a CIC with a military background. And Kerry's home movies were also to try and make him look popular..Notice they were not played when he was bashing the war during Winter Soldier? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

First we would all have to agree there is such a thing. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Flip: Flop: Ok, so is he for or against it? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You didn't need to go to dictonary.com And if offerd a slot on the shuttle I would also take it.... Your point? I contribute to society, I pay taxes and if I can LEGALLY get a ride in something like that, I would take it. You seemed to glaze over the facts that: 1. Bush is the CiC and should have a few rights, just as Clinton, Bush, ect...All had rights 2. He was going to need to be transported out there anyway. The original distance was to far for the Helo he has. 3. He is a guy, and guys like cool things. Are you telling me that you would not accept a ride in the backseat of a fighter jet to land on a carrier? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Interesting point....But not all agree...kinda like this topic. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well the post I put up had references to the Bible (Torah, Old Testament) that showed it was wrong...The reference quoted was Jewish. Maybe you don't follow that particular faith, but it still is one side. I agree and I find it funny that some think they know. Quote "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334