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i agree. However, if the membership system was shaken up a little and demo jumpers had another system for insurance, we wouldn't have to cover their costs. Works for the USPA, why cant it work here? Also, if they weren't budgeting such stupid amounts for stupid things, we wouldn't have to pay so much in membership. Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

or will we.... hmmmmm..... Perhaps we should have an outing to the BPA office? a nice group of us could just show up and drink them out of tea and eat all their biscuits. I bet they have posh chocolate covered ones, that we paid for!! Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

begining to wish i'd never made the first post. Once again i've jammed my size 10's in good and proper. Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

thats actually just got me really pissed off. 3K for broadband? are they having a fucking laugh? and an office display? WHO GIVES A SHIT!!?? Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

depends, would you eat one sober in oz? you certainly wouldn't here! Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

thats obscene Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

seriously, people actually wanted to RAISE the membership costs? Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

no. awwwww shit, i hate the internet. I always sound more like a twat than normal http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=869482;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread I've tried to explain myself more there. Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

Ok, flameproof underwear on. The editor sits four offices down from me. (i dont work in print, i work in radio, but we are in the same company) He knows i skydive and had asked if there were any more bits of information i had. I told him i didn't as i'm NOT a BASE jumper. I didn't out right offer further information. I'm not that stupid. My comment was in reply to his as i know how the media works. I never promised anything. I was just trying ensure if he wants to print anything again, its for the right reasons. This was EXACTLY what i was trying to do. I was trying to push SKYDIVING to him. The only reason i've posted in this forum was because the origional article was about BASE. I'm sorry i didn't make it any clearer from the offstart. If i can find it, i'll post the e-mail i sent him so you can understand. Again, nothing, nothing at all. I've never jumped, and sadly know very little about the sport. My comments to him were regarding SKYDIVING. Right, to try and clear it up, heres a copy and paste of the e-mail i sent him. I cant find the first e-mail, but i flamed him for glorification. My reply to his e-mail is first, his e-mail to me is second. Just the way round i copied and pasted. Sorry for all that, i thought i'd get it all out the way. Its the reason most skydivers aren't big fans of the media. Its all about golorification and making us sound insane. I understand your point, you're like every other editor in the world. Drama sells. It would just be nice every once in a while to see a positive article about skydiving. Theres many things not known about the sport. For example, the current world champion RW team (RW = relative work, the type of skydiving most people think of, where we fly on out bellies and make points) are English, that never made it to the papers. There are a number of disciplines, RW, freeflying, skysurfing, wingsuit flying etc. Each one creates some amazing pictures. i've attached a picture of a wingsuit flyer with another jumper riding piggy back style. Excuse the quality, its just to give you an idea. We do so many different things which is why its such a good sport. You will never do the same jump twice. Why not send one of your desk monkeys down to my local DZ for a tandem? Could make a good feature, i'll help with all the details and stuff. Macca -----Original Message----- From: Mark Dinning Sent: 21 January 2004 15:58 To: James Macdonald (Radio) Subject: RE: Zoo feature whoa, there! no, fair enough. i'll be perfectly honest with you though: seems like i'm after precisely what you're not! basically i need exciting 1st person 'i just escaped death' pieces. or, in your words, "the media who see it as an easy way to come up with a dramatic feature." busted. that said, if you've got any really exciting pics, etc, that could spin off in another direction, i'd be all ears? talk soon, mark Features Editor, Zoo Weekly 0207-2083312 mark.dinning@emap.com I am VERY sorry for any confusion thats been caused here and to anyone i have pissed off. Please understand this wasn't my intention. I forgot i was posting in the BASE forum. All my references were to LEGAL skydiving. Sorry again. Macca Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

whats the point in that?? whos going to vote for an increase?? Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

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Because it doesn't say, 'jumpers die doing something very stupid' or 'they're a bunch of mindless twats'. When i read it, it gave me the impression they were quite impressed with the jump and that they didn't have the balls to do it. Theres no picture of someone dead, just a picture (real or not) of someone in free fall. I never said it was a great article, but at least its getting the sport into a mainstream media without damning it. If i were a wuffo and saw it, i'd probably want to start. you have to remember the kind of magazine its in, its target demogrpahic etc. Its written in a manner for its audience, which i think makes it a not too bad article. If you read it at face value, it may not seem that good, but this, as someone said, is an FHM style lads mag. As i said, that was just my opinion and i knew it wouldn't be shared by others. *edited as i get to ride the short bus* Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

Yup, except this is a weekly. FHM is from the same company, so you get the point.... Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

repost... and it didn't get a good response the first time... Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

I've spoken to the editor (we work for the same company, differnt parts) and told him it was good to see the feature. I offered him stories and pictures, but only if they were shown in a non 'i nearly died' manner. He said i'd worked him out and that was the kind of story he was after, but if i could think of any good positive stories or pictures he'd be well up for printing them. Who are the team crank guys? I'd love to see more canopy sports in the public eye, for the right reasons. To see the article i've posted it here.. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=869464;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread let me know what you think. Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

Ok, heres the scans... The text probably isn't that readble, so here it is. Excuse typos, i'm lame... Mad people jump off very tall buildings Last weeks international Championship Of Extreme Skydive saw a group of unhinged adrenaline junkies descend on Malaysia to leap off the worlds tallest building. The distance between the top of the Malasian capital's Peronas Towers towers and the tarmac stands at an impressive 1483ft/425m/a bloody long way. As you can see, it takes an extra-special kind of fruit cake to voluntarily fall that far. The championship was part of the annual BASE (Buildings Antennas, Spans And Earth) Cup. Yep, these freaks do this stuff on a regular basis. Looks like a lovely view, but we'll stick to football, ta. Not too bad an article, but others may not agree. Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

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who on earth was that? Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

awwww crap I've just e-mailed the editor about that. The link has nothing to do with skydiving Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

nooooooooo... where?? Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

are they having a fucking laugh??? I want a membership option which is just mag subscription and insurance. Thats all i want. i'll make my own safety posters and promise not to look at the website. Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

here's the mag's website http://www.zooweekly.co.uk but i cant see anything on the item. I'll scan it in when i get back tonight. Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

Its a new weekly mag for MEN. Yes, its the same concept as Nuts, which has also just be launched, but this ones done by the company i work for (nothing to do with me, i work in a completely different devision) Why am i posting this you may ask, well, the first issue that came out yesterday is free.. and if we turn to page 8+9 theres an item on BASE jumping the Pertonas towers in Malasia. Not much text, just a big two page picture. Nothing damning, just calls them a fruit cake. I think its a good peice, all be it short. Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

1500??????????????? holy shit! i know peeps that would do a site with hosting etc for a HELL of a lot less than that. And it would look the bollocks. I know as i had to get a site built for my company. thats obscene and while i'm damning it, has anyone ever looked at the online store? laughable at best. Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies

Its a new weekly mag for MEN. Yes, its the same concept as Nuts, which has also just be launched, but this ones done by the company i work for (nothing to do with me, i work in a completely differnt devision) Why am i posting this you may ask, well, the first issue that came out yesterday is free.. and if we turn to page 8+9 theres an item on BASE jumping the Pertonas towers in Malasia. Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies