jmpnkramer

Yes I was. I made two jumps from the bridge. Left on Satuday Night because we were driving and wanted to get back so I could get some rest before work. LATERS, The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Thank you for the support. Yeah it is too bad people cannot come up with an original idea. They should scan the list for names before making theirs up. I used to use SkyKramr when I first started jumping. Then in 95 I changed to JmpnKramer. Been using that since. I guess it is hard for some to be original. The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

No problem with the gear check at all these are definitel requirements. The problem I did have was with the person getting obnoxious about my log book. It was bad enough that TSA lost my Pro-Track for me. She got ignorant about my book not being signed. I am not sure how others do things but I have not had my logbook signed in so long I have forgotten. Basically I was not very happy with some of the customer service at Perris. The Waiver was a little different but that is the way it is on the West Coast so that was not a problem. I laughed that off.

Hey remember that my Girlfriend knows how to shoot. Not to mention she is a Black-Belt. See you on Sunday if I can get out of Drill Early enough. If not then sometime next weekend most likely. Laters, The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

49 for the high? Dern we have a hard time with that as a low never mind as a High. This morning it is 68 at 6 A.M. and that even feels chilly. We have a front upon us today though so tomorrow the high is not even going to reach 70. I know ya'll Northerners like to hear that. Laters, The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Well, he first needs to get some actual FreeFall time. I mean Five Static Lines Jumps does not actually qualify you as a jumper. Except in the ARMY that is. Yes, I can say that b/c I am a Military Jumper as well. Not too mention who else could cause an icon in the sport to retire. ONLY ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That Icon being Jerry Bird as he has not jumped since the Harvest Moon Boogie VI!!!!!!!!! Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Darlin I am far from sensitive. I have been in the Military for almost 15 Years. It is very hard to insult, offend or catch me off guard. I have a very tough skin. That would be nice but alas he has not even gone through AFF yet. Maybe on another trip b/c as we all know the snowbirds fly south for the winter. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Exactly he is a character. A person who acts. I am a real person who has some of the same weird things happen in real life there Girlie. So I am an original all the way. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

C'mon all you Rancher's. There has got to be someone up there to help this little woman finish her "A" I know not all of ya'll have flown to Z-Hills for the winter. Have you? Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

For all of ya'll who know me, I have been referred to as Kramer since 93'. A character signed on here 5-Months ago calling himself Kramer. This is ironic considering he has what looks like red, straight hair. He has also challenged in the past to a look-a-like contest. Well his opportunity is about up on him. He himself has informed me that the contest begins starting January 2ND. For all of those who wish to see some fun and finally have this put to rest come on out to Z-Hills. I am picking him up at 10P.M. on the 2ND. It is the least I could do before I put his Imposter ASS to Shame. Imposter Kramer is coming to Z-Hills to get his AFF completed. Therefore let us all wish him luck on that because he has no chance of outdoing me as KRAMER!!! Laters, THE REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

It is about time that Georgia's program came back into play. I do not know of ya'll's other issues other than I know a few players were lost to injury. The Gators should have dominated this year but Sissy coach plays that conservatism gay ball and lost to the #1 team when he was up by three touchdowns in the fourth quarter. If he actually lets the guys play they will win as proven over the rest of the season. Let's see where they are able to end up next year. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Even A Blind Squirrel finds a nut every now and then. You Still lost to the best team in the SEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We Just have a weak, scared ASS, SISSY Coach right now. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Well there Mr. Moderator GUY Youi are sadly mistaken. In my case the guy hook turned into me. We were the only two in the sky. There are several witnesses to the fact. It was the last day and he was demoing something he should not have. The medics saved his life that day by holding me down! He hit me from behind. I was lower jumper. With this philosophy then; A person who blows a stop sign or red light and kills the other driver the driver that died was at fault as well? I do not think so there guy. WAKE UP! I sure would like to see how you teach your students! PILOT ERROR is just that ERROR! It is not necessarily stupid. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

I am not going to do number crunching. Basically though people make mistakes. Some of it is lack of experience or instruction. Are these people to be considered stupid because they are not informed? I had a guy hit me at Quincy in '99' under canopy. I was flying a straight in approach. If I would have died could that be construed as stupid on my part? Swoopers push the limits of the canopy. Is this stupid? They are only trying to do a different aspect of the sport. Unfortunately it injures them severely or kills them. The bottom line is that we are all human and make mistakes. What we see as stupid might just be an uniformed or uncurrent skydiver. The sad point is that they are out there and we need to try and identify them. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Is it now Andrea. I had no idea you were such a goo lover. Being as no-one else wants to razz you on this one I will. As you should know by now to be very choosey in your wording as just like a tabloid it will be taken out of context. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

First I did not see the post of the person you were trying to get a point across to. Second I am not doubting your numbers. I disagree with some of the assumptions made about why people die skydiving. You have not travelled around to severalk DZ's to see how they operate and see how different people do things. Here again you have not been in the sport long enough to justify that statement. I know of a guy who tore his aorta on a hard opening but did not realize it and died at home. An Outstanding Female Organizer friend of mine died when she was knocked out in Free-Fall. I could go on. The main thing is that some of these things may not be in books. It is something you have to be around the sport for awhile to see. These are all good things. The only problem is that you categorized and made statements which could only be made by actually being in the sport and seeing them first hand. I agree. You can gain jump numbers at any point but time in the sport does matter and that is something which you do not have. I am not bitting your head off. I have lost some good buds in both sport skydiving and military jumping. There are many unusual things that can happen. I do not hate. I am just pointing out that you need to gain time in the sport. It has nothing to do with jump numbers. Take it easy and study hard. Laters, The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

At 5-Jumps and having acquired Zero Free-Fall time, how can you justify this statement. You know nothing about the sport except that of which you have read. Do you believe everything you read or see on the television? So let me get this straight, dies in skydiving from pure accident? Once again you are making a statment based on something you barley know about. So dying at the hands of someone else while skydiving would not bother you? Is a car wreck not considered an accident? If it is your time to go the decision of how the deed is done does not belong to you. Then by your own admission you would be "Stupid" or "Dumb", because no one dies in the sport because of an accident. Is that how you want to be remembered.? I must fall under the stupid or dumb category then because when I had my severe accident and made the decision that I was too low to cut-away I was stupid for not trying. I was also dumb for trying to get away from the main landing area so that I would not hit anyone else. Before you bestow all of this great knowledge on us about the sport of skydiving you might want to actually stick with it, transition to freefall, and get some time & travel in the sport. I have been in the sport for over 10 years and I still do not profess to be an expert. I am always learning and taking in new things from those senior to me and even some who are not. The fact that you do not drink alcohol is great. There is definitely nothing wrong with that at all. I am just saying that you should not make certain statements about something you know nothing about. To classify all deaths in the sport as "DUMB" or "STUPID" shows just how uneducated you are about Skydiving. Be Careful! Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

That is just when we get really busy. This is because all of the Sno-Birds come down for the winter. Right now we have two otters flying full time. There should be a third flying shortly. Z-Hills on a Friday this time of year is insane. You can definitely get some good jumps in. Unfortunately I will be out of town. Have Fun everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

It is 77 in Fl. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Ya Know: 7 : 0 It was an outstanding weekend. I am so happy for Mi Lady. She did however fail to mention that there was not a cloud in the sky and it was around 82. It is such a hard life here in Florida. Unfortunately we got a call yesterday afternoon and the tunnel was down. Of course the good news is that we live here and have the opportunity to go whenever we choose. Don't fret though. Ya'll will get to laugh at me for one week around Thanksgiving. Cora and I will be in Wisconsin. More fun to be had this weekend though. Ya'll take care. Blue Skies & Soft Landings, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Obviously you have no idea what the KNights are about. It is not all fun & games. It is hard work. Try-Outs are very tough. Train, Train, Train. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

I am not going. I unfortunately have too many other obligations. Oh well maybe next year. and Yes that means LadySkydiver is not going either. That is because she just started a new job though. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Already do it on this end all the time. I also introduce new people comming onto the drop zone to the organizers and intructors as needed. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

It could be. You never know. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Since some people need actual clarification: The competition teams do not have officers jumping on them. Of course there is a chain of command. Officers do not compete! AS far as the reasoning behind it I am not sure. Never actually wanted to know. I do know of a guy who gave up his commission to go back on the team though. Laters, KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!!!!! The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES