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Yes my profile still does say that. I don't have that much experience on JVX's (only two jumps) so I can't really expound upon the intricacies of the canopy just yet.

Dude, I never thought a canopy would like the loading as much as this does. I only have 1 jump on it, but it seems as if it begs to be loaded. This thing is a sleeping monster about to be woken up.

I knew it wouldn't fit in the jav, but I just wanted to try it out for shits and giggles, but more giggles than shits. hahaha

Man you had me scared with all that stuff you were telling Ryan. Even though I only got one jump on it, I feel that it will be a good canopy. The stock slider needs to go away though. I forgot how much of a pain in the ass it is to have to collapse, roll, stow, and hear that damn thing flapping around back there. It fucks with your vision too. Non RDS sliders suck. I'm looking forward to getting more jumps on it. It does dive out quite a bit like you said, but the thing I noticed was that it held it's speed a little longer than the velocity. I came out of my turn a little high, and it still held quite a bit of speed. I was pleased with that. I need to get more jumps on it before I write a bunch of stuff on the internet.

"you and your mooth sail material with a chubby..." Yea it is stiff and highly erotic, possibly even phallic. Packing it is a pain, but it gets ever so slightly easier each time I pack it. Mainly because I am learning more and more how to control the material. It is different than packing the slick PD zp, but it still wants to come undone if you let it just lay on the ground.

What in God's good name are you blathering on about?

Correct. It is just a different material than ZP. It packs up bigger. It is probably not really usefull on canopies othan than competition swooping, or ground launching. It is thicker and more rigid, and it holds up to the UV a little better.

1. Yes... "We may be bereaved but we're not SAPS!" 2. I'm letting you all know that it was the "Initial" pack job of that canopy into that bag.

Nope... not yet.

If you are going to order an all sail JVX you will probably have to order a bigger container. Attached are some pictures of an attempted pack job of an 89 JVX (all sail) into a Javelin RSK-1. I did not jump it like this.

We usually pack ours very carefully...

"heat which equals more shrinkage" No man you got it wrong... It's the COLD that causes the shrinkage.

Tandem shmandem... True these things happen but I guess what I'm getting at is that there are less common occurances of PD's having problems than other manufacturers.

When it comes down to reserves why would you really want to fuck around with anything other than a PD? They do not stall, and oyu don't hear about them blowing up. Also you do not have to add a second bar tack to the line attachment point because of manufacturer mistakes. Sure they may be a little more pricey, or pack a hair bigger, but why should it matter. I have landed a variety of reserves: Raven 218 loaded at 1.0 landed ok Tempo 170 loaded at 1.17 landed ok Tempo 150 Loaded at 1.33 Landed like shit (stalled) PD 126 loaded at 1.66 landed at 5500MSL landed great!!! PD 113 Loaded at 1.9 and 2.0, 1.9 at 5500 MSL 2.0 at 6500 MSL. Both times they flew and landed very nicely. I will jump no other reserve than a PD. I just do not understand why people continue to purchase substandard reserves and keep these product lines alive. When a manufacturer makes and AD stating that you have to add a second bartack to the line attachement point because it was their fault for installing the faulty material, and they charge the owner to do it is not acceptable in my book. A reserve that stalls at shoulder level toggle input is not acceptable in my book. A reserve that requires more than 50% input of one toggle to keep it flying straight it not acceptable. These are all situations that we teach first jump students to cut away from on a main, and to have a reserve that will exhibit the same properties? WTF over? You get what you pay for in this business, and if you are going to try and save a few dollars by getting a cheaper reserve, then you are taking your life into your own hands.

True that!!! Especially when it comes to getting a better shut down or accuracy, but this dude is jumping around 1:1 and wind is probably a little bit of a hindrance if he is not doing a turn, and it doesn't cound like he is.

Maybe you should review you views here!! What do you mean by that?

Think about it... If your goal is to swoop, and that being moving horivontally over the ground, then flying into a strong wind will limit your ability to achieve said goal. Down wind is a different story, but we will not get into that here and now.

How about a retirement savings account? Do you plan on living off of social security? hahhaaa

And Phoenixplr, no, I didn't pick my name - it was given to me by my parents. Elisha is my middle name. Yea man! who the hell would name their kid Phoenixplr?

If you want definitions then ask Brian Germain. He has a tendancy to define things. But if I were to define a swoop, it would be as follows: Forward movement over the ground that is caused by bleeding off excess energy in the flare of a parachute. How you achieve that can come from many ways, but to achieve the "swoop" longer, some methods are better than others. The "two staged flare" is a shitty way to explain how to swoop. Read the following and you can get some more insight on why the "two staged flare" is a flawed logic. "I think when people are talking about staged flares they are just passing on bad information! Think of it this way. in it's simplist form there are 3 areas to a landing. 1. Approach 2. Plane out 3. Stopping To transition from your approach to plane out, you need to give input to the canopy wether it be toggles or rears. Now do you stop from there? NO. You have to give more input to the canopy to transition from plane out to stopping, correct? Now I'm going to introduce a little bit more of a radical concept here, so everyone take a second and catch your breath..... Let's first of all get rid of this concept of a two or three staged flare. You don't come in flare halfway, stop, and then flare the rest of the way do you? If so you are doing it wrong. Does that method work? Yes, sometimes, but we are a little more advanced than that, aren't we? I believed this concept was brought about by the old timers who were transitioning from F-111 to ZP canopy's. They used this when their canopy's would ballon up when they flared all the way like they were used to with their F-111's. Let's take the three area's that I spoke of earlier and make them into just one. 1. Landing You need to start thinking this way because, when you are transitioning to smaller faster canopy's, landing doesn't just happen when your altitude reaches zero. Many of the high speed low drag dudes here will probably agree with me that landing for them starts just after they get everything stowed away after opening. Watch them, and talk to them, and you will soon see that every manuever they make is to set up for landing. There's really no more "Playing Around" when you get to small canopy's. Now let's get back to Landing. Your approach flare and stopping should all be one smooth movement. Only flare as much as you need to maintain the altitude above the ground that you want. Try looking at the horizon during this part of you landing. I want you to standup right now and look at a far door knob or something out your window on the horizon. Now stand on your toes, and then back on your flat feet. Do you see the difference in your sight picture? Now how much have you actually moved? 3 to 4 inches if that. Now that you have that mastered, think about continuing your flare only as much as you need to, so that your sight picture doesn't change! I told you it was going to get radicle! Now that we are flying flat and level over the gound we eventually need to stop. Well just keep flaring, and maintaining your sight picture. Eventually you will have flared so much that your canopy will no longer beable to produce the amount of lift required to hold your body in the air. This is usually when you put your feet down on the ground. I can't tell you how many people I see that don't fly their canopy to it's fullest potential, and then complain that their canopy doesn't have enough flare to support their fat ass's, and that they need to get a Velocity because it has a more powerfull flare Learn to flare your canopy all of the way. You should not have to run out your landings very much if you are flaring it correctly, even on low wind to no wind days. If you change your thought process, and learn to fly your canopy to it's fullest then you will be unstopable!" This is more suited for the canopy control forum so let's make some sort of mention of lines in this post: Inspect your lines after every day of jumping. Do not jump worn lines. They are relatively cheap to replace and don't let the cost prevent you from jumping well maintained gear. Nothing in aviation is cheap and you get what you pay for for the most part when it comes to gear.

Here is my diatribe about lines: I feel that the lineset is probably the most important part of a canopy that is the most over looked when it comes to maintaining that canopy. The fact of the matter is, most people pay to little attention to their lines and replace them when they break. A little bit of proactive inspections on your lineset while packing can help you determine if your lines are wearing out. There are several types of materials that lines can be made out of, and each jumper MUST take a little time and learn about these materials before deciding what to purchase. Each material has some pro's and con's, so it is up to each of you to make an educated decision on your own. I don't really like the idea that PD will only sell a certain line for a certain canopy. Don't get me wrong... PD makes great products and has great service, but there are more factors to consider when choosing lines. I'm sure PD is just covering themselves as much as possible from a liability standpoint and you cannot fault them for that. As far as being a test jumper... Come on now. If you get down to it, we are all test jumpers. Do you know any major manufacturer that will warranty their product against malfunctions? Some times shit happens, so you deal with it. We all know the risks we take when we pay our $22.00 and skyjump, so the argument of being a test jumper just because you changed your lineset to a different material is null and void. I have dealt with Mel at Skyworks before. He is an upstanding individual who provides a good product and amazing customer service. You should contact him and discuss weather or not what you want to do is a good idea. Mel has a great knowledge base and will not steer you wrong. Be carefull out there.

I thought you wanted to swoop? Wind doesn't do any good things for swooping.

Call 864 429 8428 and ask for Mel. Tell him Grant sent you. His customer service is impecable, and his product is great. He can do what you want. His knowledge base of gear is very good too. Do yourself a favor and just call him you will not be dissapointed.

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