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Hey, it popped up and it was amusing.

The old 'lies, damn lies and statistics': https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/11/when_will_the_cdc_correct_its_covid_death_counts_as_italy_just_did.html The numbers bandied about are about as useful as the sports scores in the old Bob and Ray routine.

Figure 'Librarian' with autocorrect.

Don’t overthink it. I think Woke if FUBAR and you claim anything I say is wrong by default. As usuals, I’m underwhelmed. BSBD, Winsor

The fact that I disagree line and verse is not because I failed to consider your position, it’s because I considered it in detail and rejected it. I’m cool with the fact that you reject mine. It‘s a free country - more or less.

I thought you killfiled me. What's the point of dialogue?

Professor McWhorter has a pretty good handle on CRT: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/09/opinion/critical-race-theory.html

Right wing poster? I'm a fiscal conservative (nice idea - who's going to pay for it?) and social liberal (I don't care what adults do voluntarily behind closed doors, for example)., basically a Libertarian. I oppose totalitarianism, racism of any kind, legal inequality or discrimination. I suppose that makes me a right winger from where you sit. Which two of these claims: 1) Trump really won the election, and it was stolen from him by a shadowy cabal of deep state actors. 2) COVID-19 is really a bioweapon from China/Fauci/pharmaceutical companies that escaped too soon. 3) COVID-19 doesn't exist. 4) COVID-19 is no worse than the flu. 5) Vaccines contain microchip trackers that will allow the One World Order to track everyone. 6) 5G actually causes COVID. 7) Doctors/healthcare workers are exaggerating the number of COVID infections because the government pays them to do that. 8) Hydroxychloroquine - actually UV light - no, wait, ivermectin - is a miracle cure that the government is suppressing. do you think I support? The 'bioweapon' or 'miracle cure' parts? You are the master of the strawman. I am in awe. BSBD, Winsor

In 1979, IIRC, I was hanging out in Boston with some liberal arts types from a Highly Regarded University. One of them asked if my background in Chemistry, Ordnance and what have you could be applied to the fencing around Seabrook Nuclear Power Station, allowing protestors to storm the place. I replied that it posed no problem from a technical standpoint, but was counterproductive in the long run. News feed of protesters storming the facility would be seen by the body politic as violent criminals going up against a legitimate business, and would lower their overall support. If the point is to throw a wrench in "Nujke-you-ler" power, the way do do so is wearing a business suit and carrying a briefcase, and very 'reasonably' imposing constraints that increased the cost to the point that the endeavor was unprofitable. Three Mile Island allowed just such a scenario to unfold. I think it was Clinton in Illinois and Seabrook in New Hampshire that were the last nuke power plants to come on line in the U.S.. By the time they were licensed, the cost had ballooned to 1,000% of initial estimates and nobody in their right mind was going to fund further nuke plants. This brings us to your scenario. I grew up in a town adjacent to Skokie Illinois, where Nazis were allowed to parade as supported by the ACLU. Not a big fan of Nazis in general, I support the ACLU's stance, which denied the marchers the illusion of victimization on which they feed. I find either subsets of the Cult of the Illiterate Psychopath Pervert or the Cult of the Magic Jewish Zombie who wish death on homosexuals to be entirely abhorrent. Having said that, rather than doing battle with them in a manner that emboldens them, I recommend quietly putting them out of business with as little fuss as possible. A group of retards (otherwise reasonably intelligent people become retards when in a mob) marching for or against something does not make them Woke, and I may well agree with the points they think they are trying to make. Woke pretty much encompasses a militant stance for various perceived 'justice' isms; I support equal rights and equal responsibilities, no more and no less. Huge difference. The protesters may or may not be mentally ill, though the people they oppose most certainly are both certifiable and pathologic. BSBD, Winsor

"Very important safety briefing - don't fucking die!" Johnny Gates

Which strawman to address first? => Fauci's organization did, in fact, fund "gain of function" research in Wuhan. Fauci is on the record saying the reward is greater than the risk. => Agreed, it was not released as a 'bioweapon,' but, rather, by a type 7 laboratory fuckup ('thank god nobody saw that, I don't want to get fired). => It exists, where'd you come up with that? => It's more deadly than some strains of the flu, less than others (see the Fort Riley/'Spanish' variant). The biggest problem with SARS-CoV-2, other than the odd death, is the number of patients rendered undead by proliferation of microthrombi, which plug up capillaries in tissues throughout the body and result in scar tissue wherever they land. You may not be dead, but are certainly subject to permanent, irreversible damage. => We can keep you from dying pretty reliably, and thus our EUA, but can only halt the progress of the disease and its attendant damage, so our recommendation is that you do everything in your power not to let the disease progress to the point where our therapy is indicated. => Wearing a tin foil hat should protect you from radiation damage from 5G, which doesn't appear related to COVID-19 (I have to wonder if someone put that forth as a joke and it caught on). => The various vaccines work - sort of, until they wear off and don't, and only if you survive their side effects. I'm sure that, in your decades of work in the Pharma industry, you have been privy to quite a few clinical trials and have a clear understanding of the significance of the data provided thereby. This explains your skepticism and cynicism where, though you take the vaccines, you view them as anything but a panacea. Is the spike protein, upon whose replication the vaccines are dependent, cytotoxic? Demonstrably. Is the localized activity of the vaccine, upon which the damaging effects of spike protein generation are limited to the injection site, a sure thing? Not hardly, by a number of mechanisms the vaccine has been shown to migrate and have negative influence throughout the body, sometimes temporary and others fatal. By the same token that I understand the risks of skydiving and am still willing to throw myself bodily at the nearest planet from a couple of miles up, I have considered the benefit/risk analysis for the vaccine and taken it. I also do everything I can to limit inoculum and to reduce the likelihood of infection if exposed. The religious fervor expressed regarding this pandemic is both amazing and unsurprising. So far we have not reached the level of bad craziness attained during the Plague of Justinian or during the Black Death but, thanks to the interwebz and the 24 hour news cycle, we're close. BSBD, Winsor

Let me walk you through it. You asked if I minced words about the Koran, which is a collection of sayings by a violent, illiterate pervert. I elaborated on the fact that I do not, and asked if you spoke glowingly about a violent pedophile (Muhammad). You then said "Just don't go accusing me of speaking glowingly of pedos" (a quick review shows I did no such thing). My response to point out that you are unexpectedly touchy about the subject. That's it. Muslims try to explain away Muhammad marrying and bedding Aishe. I don't buy it for a second. Similarly, when Lot's daughters, who thought they were the last people on earth, used wine to get him to impregnate them, I don't buy it either. It's been many decades since I touched the stuff, but as I recall if I was ambulatory and/or in any shape to impregnate anyone I would have picked up on the fact that it was a family member (I don't have any daughters). And yes, I'll happily point out to a Rabbi that that particular Parsha leaves much to be desired. Most of them have figured that much out. Work on your reading comprehension. When you object to an implication that wasn't made, that's on you and makes me wonder where the hell that came from.. BSBD, Winsor BSBD, Winsor

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

Okay, so Muhammad married Aishe when she was 6 and 'consummated' when she was 9. That covers the pedophile part. He also personally beheaded 600 Jews who failed to convert. That fills in the violent psychopath part. Do you think highly of someone who considers him a role model? What part confuses you?

If it comes up, I note that The Profit would have to register as a sex offender, and point out that he was personally one violent sonofabitch by any account. I am also cool with noting the the Bronze Age family history of the Children of Israel is rife with serious misbehavior, and that the Cult of the Magic Jewish Zombie has pretty sorry origins. Mostly it only comes up with the atheists of various origins. Coworkers who come from different cultures but aren't given to superstition will discuss just how scary are True Believers of any stripe, and how seriously fucked up is their world view. If someone asks, I'll answer. I stay clear of those who are given to violence when confused. Why do you ask? Do you speak glowingly of violent pedophiles?

Of course perceptions differ. Anyone from Kansas can tell you that the Earth is flat and, topographically speaking, Kansas is flatter than a pancake. Having seen the curvature of the Earth, I look at things a little differently.

You give yourself way too much credit, bless your heart. No, when ideologies are put forth that support inequality, racism and injustice, they are considered in sufficient detail for evaluation - and rejected for cause. Woke ideology is evil, line and verse, though the people who espouse it are under the delusion that it somehow has merit. BSBD, Winsor

Not really. I am lucky enough to live and work in an environment where race, ethnicity, sexual preference and whatnot are no big deal. Does it exist? Sure. Does it impact work, recreation, housing and the like? Not particularly. I have the luxury of avoiding people and places where people are all strung out about whether you're a Prot or a Catholic, an Huttu or Tutxi, Sunni or Shiite, Tibetan or Han, straight or gay or any of the more popular lines of demarcation. I live, work and socialize with all of them, and can't see where putting racism or other divisiveness into the mix would improve anything. YMMV. BSBD, Winsor

FWIW, the only people I've seen perseverate on race of late are Woke SJW types. Where Rodney King asked if we can all just get along, in practice we pretty much do.

You'd also have to risk being linked to Wilbur and Orville.

It'd be pretty cool if it did. Actually, there was an episode of "10,000 Ways to Die" that had someone inject the contents of a glow stick and it did not end well. Do you know where I could pick up some Luciferase, or perhaps some Satanize? All I can find is Concentrated Evil.

Fewer syllables.

Again, Professor McWhorter is hardly a tinfoil hat right winger, but his take on the excesses of Woke theology is hardly glowing: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/dehumanizing-condescension-white-fragility/614146/

Your one warning.

James Carville, hardly a right wing lunatic, is not big on Woke stupidity either. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/579991-carville-blames-stupid-wokeness-for-democratic-losses