olemisscub
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Just in case you were wondering where he stands on the WFP, he posted this last week.
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Lol I’m not upset in the least. I’m just amused at how expertly you deflect actual questions.
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How convenient for your argument.
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I was there with him. It was an original printout.
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I’ve been paying attention and so has everyone else. If you had compelling evidence there would be more people believing in it. But you don’t have evidence. You have supposed holes you try to poke in the FBI FP. You have no actual evidence for WFP.
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Here’s the deal. None of us knew anything about the FBI Flight Path before getting into Cooper. So it’s not like we are married to it. Flight Path makes no difference to any of us, so if compelling and convincing evidence was produced in favor of a different flight path, none of us would have any reason to stubbornly stick with the FBI flight path. Yet so far only two researchers believe in WFP. Why is that? Because everyone else requires evidence and there is NONE for the WFP. Stop trying to poke holes in the FBI flight path and instead produce some evidence in favor of WFP.
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What are expecting to find in these transcripts?
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That's not how this works. You are the one suggesting an alternative to the established facts of the case as we know them, thus it is YOUR burden to provide contradictory evidence, not ours.
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He's describing a piece of land very broadly to a national audience 50 years after the fact. It's unlikely he remembers any specifics and even if he did it's unlikely he'd be dropping names like "La Center" or "Ariel" or "Orchards" in a national publication when he's just speaking generally about an area. Plus it sounds like he's speaking north to south, not east to west.
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Yet he came up with the same flight path. Wonder why.
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Presumably he wouldn't have needed anything from the FBI to calculate the flight path since the raw data from their tracking of 305 would have been recorded onto tapes, which is what Spangler used to create his calculations. No doubt those tapes would have still been at McChord when Larson did his calculations. Of course, calculating the drop zone would require some data from FBI and NWA.
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Yeah that article is what gave me his middle name earlier today. Chaucer is supposed to call him today.
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I found him. He lives in Tacoma. 84 years old.
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I believe Larson may be who calculated the third DZ for the 73 search since Spangler was no longer there. This sorta jives with the article and him explaining how the agent said they were running out of funding. They certainly were not running out of funding when the first two USAF calculations were computed. Although there is an FBI doc that says their final 73 search was using a new mapping system from NWA. So hell if I know. Just a guess though. Regardless. His statement about this agent basically coming to him with hat in hand sounds like some of the language in the 302's from around late 72 when agents were begging for free help from the USAF and other entities.
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Actually it appears that Hancock did the calculations for NWA and someone else (Larson an alias for Spangler?) did it for USAF.
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Soderlind said that Alice’s husband provided the descent calculations.
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I just did a vault search for A6's or A7's and nothing came up. Also did a Newspaper search and nothing is popping. Nothing in NORJAK or Tosaw either.
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Good stuff. Are these from a museum collection? FBI photos?
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They were F106's, and yes, of course they did. Their course would also have been tracked in real time by the computer and stored in a database. The computer would place a track symbology on the fighters' data based on their call signs. SAGE radar cost more than the Manhattan Project to develop. It was insanely state of the art for its time period. To think it couldn't track a slow moving, lumbering commercial airliner, is bonkers. They thing was designed to pick up supersonic jets and missiles, etc. This is what's so frustrating with Western Flight Path or the Reca stuff. If your theory on DB Cooper requires the entire infrastructure of both our National Air Defense and Civilian Air Traffic Control to have shit the bed more than they've ever shit the bed in all of recorded history....then MAYBE you should reevaluate your theory.
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I asked Carr about the existence of other photos from inside the cabin the night of the hijacking, aside from the one we've all seen. He confirmed that there are a good many other cabin photos in the 1A files. So we should be getting to those soon in the vault. Of course they'll be crummy photocopies, but I'll at least be able to FOIA for them since we will know what their actual file folder number is. Just as a curiosity, I asked him if there were any photos of the cigarette butts, perhaps taken while in the ashtray or elsewhere. He said there are not.
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"an obscured plane"??? You mean the obscured plane that was squawking "HIJACK! HIJACK!" on its frequency the entire way from Seattle to Reno? The obscured plane that Air Traffic Control all along the west coast were having to reroute traffic away from for three and a half hours? The obscured plane that was being computer recorded by the most advanced radar system on the planet at the time? I mean, you Reca folks do understand that the flight path the FBI were given wasn't just a guess, right? SAGE radar computers automatically recorded on database tapes the movement of any aircraft that was squawking for an emergency. It's location data was recorded every FIVE seconds.
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My theory is that back in the 70's Reca overheard a pilot telling a story at a VFW hall or wherever talking about how he was flying a small aircraft the night of the Cooper hijacking and ran out of gas or had mechanical difficulties. He had to put the plane down and walk into Cle Elum to make a phone call. The punchline of the story being "I bet them folks thought I was D.B. Cooper! Har har!" Just a theory to explain Osiadacz's apparent earnestness about the story. Doesn't seem like he's just pulling the story from thin air. And the entire Reca grift is an insult to everyone in the Vortex. It's so bad it's almost a parody.
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Thank you, I appreciate that. I assume that is Charlie's son.
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Seems appropriate for this to be reposted.
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Good lord at thinking that D.B. Cooper and his narrow face (a trait described by damn near every witness) looked anything like that square-headed dude with a bulbous wide nose. But hey, those ARE "not tie type shoes" he's wearing....
