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There should have been some detail pic/close up of the steel shot ball People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

what are racer/reflex users supposed to do then? ...................................................................... Racer and Reflex users are expected to continue with the factory-recommended packing procedures, loop length, etc. We have not heard of any Racers or Reflexes - with AADs - failing to open when needed. Any time you change one variable, you mess with a dozen other variables, and it will take you years to figure out all the new malfunction modes. Don't mess with success. Sounds like you advocate having the cutter as close as possible to the pin. Is that what you're saying? I don't think he was suggesting that a particular location is best in all cases. All he said was that in the cases of the Racer and Reflex, the current location seems to be working. (But maybe these rigs don't have enough "exposure", and so the statistical validity of our experiences might also be questioned.) Not all "nearest the pin as possible" locations are the same. For instance, if the problems we have experienced are related to the angle of the closing loop through the cutter, then placing the cutter on a flap near the pin might be bad, but putting it on the backpad near the pin might be perfect. (Contrasting Mirage and Racer, for example.) Similarly, on the backpad near the closing loop anchor point might be great in a rig where the length of the "tail" is not a problem, while the same location in a rig that is sensitive to the length of the "tail" would not be good. Rigs are different and so are cutters. What works best for one rig and a particular cutter might not work best on another rig with a different cutter. Hard and fast rules are tough to come by in discussions like this. Isn't it true that a rig with the pins against your back will be vulnerable to a cutter locking the loop, not allowing a ripcord to function, no matter where the cutter is placed? Some think that rigs should not allow such a scenario to exist. As you said, placement of a cutter against your back might have a better setup to prevent a locked loop because the closing loop path might be 'straighter' as it goes through the cutter, assuming that problems with the Argus cutter locking are in fact related to the angle of the loop as has been speculated. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

The temp can of course be different inside vs outside, but the pressure will not be (unless it is a super sealed house). People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Nobody changes the size of the handle based upon the size of the container, that is not unusual. they all have the same handle 'length' in terms of where they go into the pocket in the webbing. However, you can get handles of a different shape in other respects. I'm a big fan of the low profile handle shown in the attached pic. It was not an option that was listed as available, but any mfg should be able to provide it if asked. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Welcome to DZ.com! This is a hell of a way to get started on the forums, eh? There is nothing like hearing from someone personally, thanks. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Why would we lie? I don't think you would, but he might. The comment of no blood no foul can support a cynical conclusion that he might be saying what others want to hear without really taking it to heart. Hopefully that is not true and he did recognize the error of his ways (and won't repeat them). People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I believe he made a comment on youtube from him saying, "No blood no foul." That doesn't support the claim that he's learned from his close-calls. I'd like to think that he had a change of heart later, and that those that know him are correct in that reporting. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

If he didn't sincerely apologize right away, if I thought he didn't realize the need to change his ways, I'd take his reserve handle and throw it into the pond. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

what are racer/reflex users supposed to do then? ...................................................................... Racer and Reflex users are expected to continue with the factory-recommended packing procedures, loop length, etc. We have not heard of any Racers or Reflexes - with AADs - failing to open when needed. Any time you change one variable, you mess with a dozen other variables, and it will take you years to figure out all the new malfunction modes. Don't mess with success. Sounds like you advocate having the cutter as close as possible to the pin. Is that what you're saying? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

On the Racer it goes pin, grommet in the bottom pack tray panel, cutter, bag, side, side then either the top flap or bottom flap then the PC. The PC does not push on any of the flaps (ie no Chinese finger trap issue). . So the racer also is vulnerable to a locked loop. I thought John Sherman was against implementation of the AAD in a way that could do that. Just my memory of what has been discussed recently since all this came about. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Where do the various pop top designs (racer/reflex/TSE) have their cutter/relative to the ripcord pins, and are they vulnerable to a locked loop? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Yes it is. It fixed a specific problem (delay due to loop friction...) I understand that it opens the potential for other concerns. That is different than saying it wasn't an effective fix for an existing problem. The OP asked for the rationale for top mounted cutters, and that was the rationale. You're saying it isn't an overall good trade-off, I understand that viewpoint. If that was a concern of the FAA for guillotine cutters (or the cyrpes cutter specifically), then we can expect the FAA to soon ban their top-mounted use, right? I think not, so it doesn't really mean what I think you're suggesting. That isn't saying that the mode of failure will be a locked loop. There are other things that can fail. When a reliability engineer states the probability of a particular failure, for any mechanism you'd like to consider designed by a human, it will never be zero. Has there ever been an instance of any mfgs guillotine cutter locking onto a loop? Are you concerned about it? I think it is much more reasonable to be concerned about a slight delay that prevents the AAD from being useful when it is actually needed. There are many actual AAD activations when it is needed every year. It is unfortunately, and unavoidably likely that some of those activations will not be as effective due to delays from the loop friction. Riggers should be more careful, but rigs will have to be redesigned to eliminate that failure mode. I find the discussion about this stuff interesting, and wish there were a solution that didn't have some downside. I just don't think that exists, and still think the top mounted cutter with an extremely reliable, proven cutter design to be the best way to go. Of course not all mfgs agree, and some made the tough decision to change things to that layout, maybe some will change back, we'll see. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Why wouldn't you have a local rigger assemble it? Even if Mirage will do it for free (and they probably are not), you would spend a lot on shipping, risk damage, and lose out on the potential to watch it being done (if the rigger is agreeable to that). People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Yes you do. Or be under the supervision of someone with a license. Unless you're the person making the next jump with that main. Ref: FAR 105.43.a The reality is that the 'supervision' is applied quite loosely in most places. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Exactly that. The solution (moving the cutter above the P/C) was a band aid fix to a problem it should have never been asked to handle. The rig geometries and canopy combinations were the problem, compounded with incorrect rigging, which all should be addressed. It was an effective fix. The incorrect rigging should of course be addressed, but that isn't going to change the reality that it will continue to persist, just in smaller numbers than before the heightened awareness. There is no problem with top cutter location for cutter designs that don't fail. We now know of a cutter design that seems to be poor, but that is clearly distinct from the others. It is easy to know a rig doesn't have that poor cutter design. It is not possible to know that a rigger in the future won't contribute to a delay by using a slightly long loop or not lubricating it. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

You don't need a license to be a packer. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Because it makes the rig much more tolerant to things that would contribute to friction on the loop/delay of that loop pulling out. Of course it is easy to say that rigging errors are mostly what causes such a delay (too long of a loop or not lubricated, etc.), but our world is definitely not a perfect one where riggers do not make such mistakes. Even if a slightly long loop only delays the PC by a small fraction of a second, that can eat up a lot of altitude when there isn't much to spare. If the cutter doesn't have problems cutting the loop (guillotine cutters have never failed to cut when fired, correct?) then there is no disadvantage to a top mounted cutter. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Better yet, manufacturers might add this phrase: "The owner should remove the seal before use. Leaving the seal in place may result in pull forces exceeding 22 pounds and void the TSO." The seal is not a talisman that protects against tampering. Protection from tampering is solely an owner/operator responsibility. While there is a requirement for riggers to seal rigs, there is no requirement for a rig to stay sealed once it is in the owner's possession. The containers are TSO'd without seals. We should be jumping them in the configuration they have been tested in. Mark That sounds appealing, but I think not realistic. An extension of that logic is that our reserves are required to be packed by an FAA certified rigger every 180 days, but that shouldn't be taken to mean that other people can't also pack it within that time period. I don't think that interpretation would be accepted, pretty sure the FAA would expect the wording of the existing reg to require the seal stay in place. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

So, that makes a switch to paper seals easier, doesn't it, just get mfgs to allow it as an alternative, publish it on their websites as an addendum to their manual or some such thing. Doesn't that seem easier, at least without govt involvement? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

You could get the protrack cable and interface by itself, just call them and work it out. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

To make it easy to get a change, put the reason for the change into a politically correct orientation - handling of lead is a health hazard! The other benefits don't matter, but eliminating an exposure to lead will more likely get it accepted in a flash. Geez, am I the only one to think of that? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

As said earlier: Cadmium flakes off, and is toxic. Lots of people got by without stainless steel for many years, but there are also people that have had harnesses ruined by the steel rusting and wearing at the webbing. Once that rust starts, your harness will have to be replaced very soon. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I would go for the stainless steel definitely. Then see how much it costs for extra legstrap only padding. I don't think padding on the backpad is worth much, I know others disagree. Cadmium flakes off, and is toxic. Lots of people got by without stainless steel for many years, but there are also people that have had harnesses ruined by the steel rusting and wearing at the webbing. Once that rust starts, your harness will have to be replaced very soon. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

This thread isn't in the incidents forum (at least not anymore). Some advocate a FMD policy as a way of helping to prevent collisions. It is appropriate to have the discussion in this forum. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Why would Perris be an exception, why would they not suffer from the confusion of FMD? What environment would cause it to be the best choice? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am