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Lots of things are an "incident" by strict definition, but it does not matter in the context of "what the hell is going on with AADs?" I'd like to think that we can only talk about incidents that matter in this thread. If you want to discuss a different design strategy for student AADs, that could be interesting, but not relevant to this thread. As you know, all of the AADs have a student version with a much lower speed threshold. The thinking is that a student is much more likely to not cutaway when they should, and so getting the reserve out is a good strategy. Along with that strategy is the complete understanding that those with a student version AAD should not make hard turns low. DZs have the choice to not use student version AADs. That must be a tough call for DZOs. The cypres 1 units on the plane shut down due to sensing the unusual conditions (unusual pressurization of the plane). The vigils fired. Apparently you consider the response of the cypres 1 to be an incident that matters. I consider it trivial. I think it is an excellent example of how the cypres 1 software designers were very wise to make the unit "smart" enough to realize the data could not result from a skydive, and to conclude that there might be something wrong with the electronics and shut off. The vigil in contrast is very "dumb". That seems like a positive attribute of the cypres 1 (whereas you consider it an incident that matters), and the cypres 2 handled it without a problem at all. I didn't check out your references to other "incidents that matter", but after seeing what you consider what is important, I suspect I would not agree. There is a problem in relying on hearsay. As said before, claims that Airtek would intentionally falsify results before receiving a unit don't make sense. If people were inclined to cover their ass as suggested, they would wait until after the unit was in their possession. Sure, it is possible, but there is no where near enough info provided for it to be considered more than wild rumor. No, it fired in the air, and the container failed to open. The AAD can only cut the loop, what happens after that is a different discussion. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Here's probably a reliable list: http://www.skydiveaz.com/Skydiving-Facilities/Lodging.aspx People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

A flat glide angle and having trouble getting back from long spots are not compatible descriptions of the performance. I've never jumped one, but sure have heard a lot of those that have say that a Spectre is great in many ways, but not for having a flat glide ratio. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I should have noticed the sock in the video, but it does not look like it is indicating a downwinder, more like a crosswinder, but it is hard to tell. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Probably just wanting to mess with 'ya. There will likely be more such responses now that it has been discussed. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Not so sure it was downwind, maybe just no wind. Their lousy landing was at least in part due to her not picking up her legs. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

If everyone had instruments that had the choice to show a normalized speed, then it would be more valid to make comparisons. It would be better if everyone realized that there is a difference, and when using fall rate numbers specified whether it was SAS, or TAS. From L&B manual: "TAS/SAS Definitions True Airspeed (TAS) and Skydiver’s Airspeed (SAS) are two methods of calculating the airspeed of a moving/flying/falling object. TAS is a term used in aviation: It is the speed of an object relative to the surrounding air, regardless of the altitude. SAS is a new concept developed by LARSEN & BRUSGAARD: SAS is the speed of a skydiver calculated from measurements of air pressure and temperature and converted to a fixed air pressure (875.3 mb) and a fixed temperature (+7.080C) which corresponds to 4,000 feet ASL. TAS A skydiver’s True Airspeed (TAS) relative to the ground changes as a function of the altitude (air pressure) and temperature which makes it difficult to compare fall-rates. Example: A skydiver (in a fixed freefall position) who has a terminal fallrate of 62 meters/sec at 10,000 feet will have a terminal fallrate of 50 meters/sec at 3,000 feet. It will be seen that the difference in altitude (air pressure) makes it difficult to compare the fall-rates when measured using TAS. SAS The SAS formula calculates airspeed (using the same metrics used with TAS) as though the complete skydive had been performed at a fixed air pressure and a fixed temperature which corresponds to 4,000 feet ASL. 4,000 feet is chosen as the reference altitude by LARSEN & BRUSGAARD since this is the average altitude at which the working time of a skydive is normally ended. Conclusion Using SAS, skydivers in any body position can express their vertical speed by a number (SAS). This number remains virtually constant regardless of altitude with little or no variance due to temperature differences and can be compared with the airspeeds of other skydivers. This means that regardless of the elevation of the DZ you are jumping at, SKYDIVER’S AIRSPEED (SAS) will be the same for the same body position. SAS is very useful when doing big formation skydiving. If using TAS, it will seem like the base is slowing down the fall rate during the entire skydive." People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

There may have been significant load on the harness during much of the opening, before the presumed falling out of the harness. It has been done before - a fully inflated canopy continuing to fly after the jumper has left the harness (intentionally - like a stunt). People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

To get back to serious considerations... L&B products allow the choice of TAS-true airspeed or SAS-skydiver airspeed (SAS provides the choice to "normalize" the speed to what it would be at a std air density). The normalized (SAS) speed is better to use when discussing fall rates. It is regrettable that the Neptune doesn't seem to offer a similar normalized speed (the manual doesn't seem to have a choice). I don't know about other mfgs dataloggers. To not use SAS means there will always be some error in the comparison due to the altitude at which the speed was measured. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

http://www.chutingstar.com/newgear_en/benny.html The pic of the red helmet shows vent holes at the top. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Do you know for sure the closing loop was not in one piece? Is it possible that the closing loop was cut by some means other than the cypres cutter? Was it confirmed that the cypres cutter had activated (that is a visual check, right)? Was the cutter returned to Airtek? Normally these questions don't come up, but when the unit itself doesn't show the activation we can't help but wonder. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I jumped there back in the summer of '93. My memory is that the landing area was pretty small for the winds, which were quite high. The hazards were pretty...hazardous. On that day we were getting out along the shoreline, but it is common to have the spot way out over the ocean. At least if you don't make it back, the water is warm enough for you to be OK while you wait for help. Maybe the landing area is bigger than I remember? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

and that is why the freefliers exit BEFORE the belly-guys.. at least that's how we deal with that at my dz..

I've had one swoop suit, and two of the std 'Tony' models. The swoop suit will be appropriate for you if you don't need the extra drag that can be provided by the standard 'Tony' model. The swoop version isn't as low drag as the pit special, but might not be the right suit if gravity has more of an effect on you than you'd like. Consult with them directly to confirm what is appropriate for you. If you decide to get the regular Tony suit, make sure they do the leg grips like the swoop and pit special, where the outer grip stays on the outer part of the leg instead of doing the 'S' shape and running up the back of the leg for the upper part of the grip. That and be sure to get inseam leg grips. I have size 13 shoes, and can get my feet in and out easily without zippers, so I think there is no need for them. I got continuous swoop cords on one of my suits, but never used/needed them, so unless you're especially gravity enhanced, don't bother. The double layer arms and legs are good at providing extra drag without making the suit extra large. They are good at making the suits with the right speed range if you are honest about your measurements and weight. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Typical motorcycle helmets have a different "profile" compared to skydiving full face helmets - they don't really stick out so much from the chin compared to a cycle helmet. I wonder if that might make them less susceptible to what you describe. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

The last RW suit they made for me was done ordered in May (a busy time I would expect) and done in about 4 weeks, without a rush charge. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

What is Treejumping? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

A wee bit south of Dayton, Ohio http://startskydiving.com/ People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I like tailgates, I like planes in which I can completely stand up. It was taking 44, climbing slower than a typical super otter, don't know the exact time it was taking. The climb gauge was staying just under 1k feet/min, but those probably aren't accurate? Reliable rumor says it will probably be gone after 5/15, when the super otter arrives. Very cool big bird, the flight deck floor is elevated above the cabin floor. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Instead, we had to put up with a ride to altitude in this... (I think there are 2 of them, not sure if it was this one) People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Until Aviacom has completed its investigation, we do not know what the actual problem is. Until Aviacom has conclusively identified the problem, then yes, it is reasonable for manufacturers to withdraw their approvals. Mark Do we actually know that Aviacom is continuing to investigate? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Nice. I hope this aircraft blows the PAC750 out of the sky. Why would you hope that? Sparky Perhaps because it is built in the USA, and has a higher tail. Does anyone know offhand how it compares in price and interior dimensions (is it a larger cross section)? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Please explain the apparent contradiction. I would think a lot of people are uneasy under canopy when they're new. Hard for anyone to know if it is unusual in your case. Did you try getting more information from your instructors, given that you felt they were "dismissive" about the importance when first presented to you? You don't have to wait for a canopy control course, tap into the knowledge of those that were there to train you. Get with them, other instructors, or others that you have reason to respect when they have some down time. Back when I learned, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, a lot of knowledge and experience was passed on that way - outside of formal training. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

The ability to reliably cut a loop with no tension should be expected, as there are instances where that will be required, such as when the ripcord has already been pulled, but the bag has not yet lifted off the container. For a short time there will be no tension on the loop, and a cutter mounted above the bag will have the ability to lock. Such a scenario presumes a certain cutter placement and timing, but still shows that cutters should be expected to cut regardless of tension. Even after all this time, still no close up examination of the ball, not even a description of damage to the ball was present in the not-so-independent "report". Why is that? If one were inclined to believe in conspiracies , one might think they were covering something up. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Progression doesn't have to mean smaller and faster, it can mean moving toward a better canopy. T-10 28' PC 189 7 cell parafoil 228 7 cell Spirit 215 7 cell Astrobe PD210 Pilot 210 People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am