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What a load of shit... From an article about the big, fat, liar and his lying movie to be published in the National Review Online: http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm Florida Purge of Convicted Felons from Voter Rolls Deceit 4 According to Fahrenheit, Bush cronies hired Data Base Technologies to purge Florida voters who might vote for Gore, and these potential voters were purged from the voting rolls on the basis of race. ("Second, make sure the chairman of your campaign is also the vote count woman. And that her state has hired a company that's gonna knock voters off the rolls who aren't likely to vote for you. You can usually tell 'em by the color of their skin.") As explained by the Palm Beach Post, Moore's claim is extremely incomplete, and on at least one fact, plainly false. The 1998 mayoral election in Miami was a fiasco which was declared void by Florida courts, because--in violation of Florida law--convicted felons had been allowed to vote. The Florida legislature ordered the executive branch to purge felons from the voting rolls before the next election. Following instructions from Florida officials, Data Base Technologies (DBT) aggressively attempted to identify all convicted felons who were illegally registered to vote in Florida. There were two major problems with the purge. First, several states allow felons to vote once they have completed their sentences. Some of these ex-felons moved to Florida and were, according to a court decision, eligible to vote. Florida improperly purged these immigrant felons. Second, the comprehensive effort to identify all convicted felons led to large number of false positives, in which persons with, for example, the same name as a convicted felon, were improperly purged. Purged voters were, in most cases, notified months before the election and given an opportunity to appeal, but the necessity to file an appeal was in itself a barrier which probably discouraged some legitimate, non-felon citizens from voting. According to the Palm Beach Post, at least 1,100 people were improperly purged. The overbreadth of the purge was well-known in Florida before the election. As a result, election officials in 20 of Florida's counties ignored the purge list entirely. In these counties, convicted felons were allowed to vote. Also according to the Post, thousands of felons were improperly allowed to vote in the 20 non-purging counties. When allowed to vote, felons vote approximately 69 percent Democratic, according to a study in the American Sociological Review. Therefore, if the thousands of felons in the non-purging 20 counties had been not been illegally allowed to vote, it is likely that Bush's statewide margin would have been substantially larger. It seems to me that even if we presume that the 1,100 wrongly purged Florida voters would have voted Democratic at the same rate that felons do (even though some of these voters were non-felons who were the victim of mistaken identity), the net result of the 2000 purge fiasco harmed Bush: the number of votes which Gore gained as a result of 20 counties refusing to conduct the felon purge far outnumbered how many votes that Gore lost as the result of the overbroad purges in other counties. Regardless, Moore's claim that the purge was conducted on the basis of race was indisputably false. As the Palm Beach Post details, all the evidence shows that Data Base Technologies did not use race as a basis for the purge. Indeed, DBT's refusal to take note of a registered voter's race was one of the reasons for the many cases of mistaken identity. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Conventional risers would also not release during a PC in tow scenario. As long as it is still in tow, it would not matter if they were 2-shot capewells (edit-actually capewells would be more likely to actually eject themselves than a conventional 3-ring setup). People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

White on the reserve side flaps is very good looking. Mine is still in absolutely new condition after 2 years, but I don't roll over or fall backward if my landings aren't perfect. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Using race based preferences to pursue racial equality is what I find objectionable. Raises some troubling questions like is it appropriate even if someone is new to the country, therefore even their family had never been a victim of the historical racism? How do you categorize people by race? Use a color meter on their skin? Some objective judge looks at you and decides? Some % of blood as the Native Americans do to determine your ability to be considered a member of the tribe? These questions should have to be answered in order to support race based preferences, in my opinion. To not bother with these questions is to admit you will apply a remedy for past injustice without showing that an individual suffered the injustice. At least the Japanese detainees could definitely show they were connected to the unjust policy. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Opposition to GWB doesn't make one anti-American. Saying that we deserved to be attacked does. Many have said that directly and indirectly. Big difference. I think a link to the Al Qaeda training manual can serve as a reminder of what we are up against, it is a real war, for our survival. http://sl.cometsystems.com/r?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usdoj.gov%2Fag%2Ftrainingmanual.htm&qry=al+queda+training+manual&rnk=1&aff=inkt&v=11&origin=asearch&tmpl=0Aen People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I don't think you're a constitutional scholar either. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Hurumph, hurumph! People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I think there are limits on costitutional free speech that include advocating criminal violence against others. I'm no constitutional expert, but I think that is not protected and is not what 'free speech is all about'. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Moore's movie does more than "oppose what the administration is doing". I think it does give our enemy the "warm fuzzy feeling that they just might be justified in attacking the US" Big difference. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

I think Moore's film does indeed, indirectly, give aid and comfort to the enemy. Of course he is free to do so. And he should not be suprised when many exercise their free speech rights to label him as anti-American. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Big difference between saying, "your policy is stupid" or, "you're stupid for advocating that policy" and saying, "you advocate that policy (as VP of the US) for your own financial gain". Big difference. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

You don't think they need this power? Are you against the previously existing use of this power to fight organized crime? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

They could already do that sort of thing (banking) if a judge was convinced of your involvement in organized crime. It was expanded to include convincing a judge you are a terrorist. No library records have even been used yet. It takes a judge's order. You imply they can do it on their own volition. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

This is not just a conflict (Korea) or police action (Nam). Throwing a lot more money at funding 'first responders' should not be a high priority. It is a real war against freedom. Bush realizes the true nature of this fight. Our military will be under great demands for quite a while. Freedom will suffer with Kerry as the leader of the free world. I fear Kerry would try to wish it away. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Without the current system, low population density areas would receive little to no attention by the candidates. All that would matter would be the large urban centers with urban needs and issues at stake. The needs of N. Dakota wouldn't matter a bit if it was a simple popular vote method. I think it is a very good thing to distribute/balance power in this way. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Did you ever see the Nova specials that dispelled the myths from the Charles Berlitz movies 'Chariots of the Gods' and the 'Devil's Triangle'? It was so clear that the movies were complete fabrications. He even admitted during a German interview for a magazine/whatever that using 'poetic license' is expected. edit for spelling and to mention that my 7th grade class was taken to see these films as a field trip, can you believe that! A similar expose should be made of Moore's films. There is a lot to expose. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Counseling is available. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Leahy got less than he deserved for what he said. God status? Where does that come from? People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

What do you mean by never back? 90 jumps and never used your own pack job! Kids today, I tell ya, back in my day...[/grumpy old man] People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Yes, he's the outstanding candidate for liberals that want a guy with moral clarity. Quite right, go Ralph! People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Well spoken Bruce, I mean Jim. Hurumph, hurumph!. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Of course this is from a biased source, they don't pretend to be a news agency, they obviously are an advocacy group. I also think they are spot on. http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/critiques/BBC_Radio_Farce.asp COMMUNIQUE: 17 June 2004 BBC Radio Farce BBC Radio's curious choice of 'experts' on Mideast media coverage and terminology When a media outlet is confronted with overwhelming evidence that its Mideast coverage is consistently biased against Israel, the outlet generally chooses one of two responses \ to correct the mistakes (e.g. Reuters on Hamas terminology), or to simply ignore the evidence (unfortunately, the more common approach). The BBC has now produced a third, almost farcical response. After nearly four years of relentless worldwide protest against its egregiously anti-Israel coverage (see HonestReporting critiques here, here and here, and the 2001 Dishonest Reporting Award), including an official Israeli government boycott of the network, BBC Radio has lately served up some fictional drama. The format: BBC talk-shows that ostensibly tackle the central problems of news coverage of the Mideast conflict, but include only on-air 'experts' who vindicate the BBC, or even accuse BBC of being too pro-Israel. Consider: œ The June 15 BBC Radio 3 'Night Waves' program focused on misleading media coverage of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict \ listen to it here (RealPlayer, first 13 minutes). The program includes three guests: two BBC editors, and Professor Greg Philo of Glasgow University, who recently produced a study claiming anti-Palestinian media bias in news coverage of the conflict. (Philo is a notorious anti-Israeli ideologue, whose biggest fans seem to be John Pilger and Noam Chomsky.) The BBC editors defend their work against Philo's claims, but the show provides no legitimate counter-voice. A prime candidate for such a counter-voice, London attorney Trevor Asserson, has produced no less than three influential and exhaustive studies on BBC anti-Israel bias, but Asserson informs HonestReporting that he has never been asked by the BBC to come down to a studio and appear on-air. œ On March 18, BBC Radio 4's 'Today' show produced a session on a topic central to HonestReporting's campaign for fair media description of Palestinian terrorism: 'What's the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter?' \ listen to it here. Again, the BBC Radio guests are not interested in challenging the BBC's own untenable position \ in this case, that Hamas et al should not be called 'terrorists.' Whom did BBC Radio bring on the show to 'debate' this important issue? None other than Palestinian hijacker and hostage-taker Leila Khaled, and IRA publicity head Danny Morrison. Claims Khaled: 'There is a very big difference between the struggle of [Palestinian] people for liberation, and acts of terror.' After listening in, British journalist Melanie Phillips was outraged: This is the BBC's idea of balance \ two apologists for terror, in earnest discussion. And this is the organisation the public nevertheless still appears to trust and venerates as an icon. A DEFUSING TACTIC? These two recent and highly tilted BBC Radio shows may reveal a disturbing tactic on the Beeb's part \ to defuse the controversy over their anti-Israel bias not by addressing it head-on, but rather by allowing far-out radicals to suggest the Beeb is actually too pro-Israel. It's instructive to note that one of the main pro-Palestinian media watch groups \ Palestine Media Watch \ has had almost no complaints about BBC coverage for the past three years. In fact, in April 2002 PMW listed BBC among those news outlets that are explicitly favorable to the Palestinian camp: 'anyone who is lucky enough to watch the BBC, Al-Jazeera, or even the Canadian CBC,' PMW claimed, gets the true 'version of reality.' Yet in the face of well-documented anti-Israel media bias, BBC Radio chooses to expose itself to the likes of Greg Philo, leaving the listener thinking that, if anything, BBC has been remiss and needs to be more sympathetic to Palestinians in its coverage. Given the BBC's sudden openness to questioning these matters, it is imperative that voices such as Mr. Asserson's be granted on-air time as well. After all, BBC's own new 'Mideast policeman' acknowledges that his role is to question if the BBC is 'systemically biased.' The BBC's latest charade makes the answer to that question painfully clear. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Well done! Let the gravity games begin! People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

Your statement seemed childish to me. There is a big difference between believing some country has them (I think there is plenty of 'context' to conclude the Clinton admin did), and being willing to do something substantial about it. I heard it described very well today what it is that puts liberals into the apoplectic (sp?) fit that is so common of late. GWB has moral clarity. He has no ambiguity about what is right and wrong on some basic issues. This is intensely irritating to those without such clarity. I think you should be willing to take my blunt manner in the same way you expected Trent to take yours. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am

We don't understand you because you are wrong. I really don't know how to make it any more clear. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am