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Everything posted by FLYJACK
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True, it all depends if the airstairwell light was on.. there is a light switch on the interphone panel.. Cooper did use the interphone at 8:05... if that light was off the trailing pilot couldn't see.. Edwards and others are wasting time trying to move the jump south.. Soderlind got it right, it was 8:11 almost exactly. I have data to prove it and I have said for years that it could have been as far south as Battleground,, not now. People keep trying to change the evidence without any facts..
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So, now Ryan posts a sketch A image with KK5-1 eyes from sketch B.. and claims it looks more human. Think about it.. Ryan has incorporated a significant part of sketch B into A to make it better.. but still claims A is the best likeness.. This makes no sense... irrational. Soon, he will be showing the full sketch B while still claiming sketch A is better.
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It was a bar story from another researcher, not very reliable. The chase plane pilot did not say "Flight 305 was changing course 45 degrees evert 30 seconds" that was attributed to Seattle Centre in Himmelsbach book NORJAK. This is not true, the plane did not change 45 degrees, impossible... Himmelsbach's book does have some errors.. I bet it was "4 to 5 degrees" not 45 degrees, just misunderstood.
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I disagree,, Ryan has brought attention to the case and new people but it has undermined the legit advancement of the case.. It has turned into a social group where bad ideas and false evidence gets spread like a virus... and yes Ryan does claim opinions as facts, most people now think Cooper jumped at Orchards because Ryan and his jester's keep repeating it,,, it is complete BS. Most think Cunningham's revised time's on the flightpath are real.. they are not. We have suspects who are not Cooper being flogged.. IMO, this is not good for the case. Too much time is spent on bad ideas, bad suspects and theories... and try and correct them after they get traction, impossible. It is fine for a social group but it is not a serious endeavour.
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It wasn't Edwards. it was a "researcher" However, sometime in 2022, a researcher of the Norjak case met Gen. Madson in the Victor-23 brewery in Vancouver, Washington. They had a short but friendly chat, and Gen. Madson told another story. He had intercepted Flight 305 about five miles north of Camas; he had seen the hijacker on the aft airstair; and the hijacker had given him a traditional gesture with a finger. A random unverifiable bar story.. PASS
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What a tangled web we weave.....
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No, the money was buried for much longer than 2 months.
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This case was not solved and has been so difficult because there are few hard facts... the FBI admitted in 1976 there was not enough evidence to prosecute without Cooper's cooperation and the witness memories had faded. This absence of hard facts leads to speculation and most of it is absurd. IMO, the growth of the FB group has been a negative.. too many people without an adequate case knowledge level immersing themselves into a speculative social soup of bad ideas snd misinformation. A few influencers drive groupthink claiming facts that do not exist.. There have been some really bad ones but the newest bad one is pushed by Ryan and his jester's claiming that it is now known by all that Cooper jumped at Orchards, he claims the FBI has confirmed this now.. This is complete BS but people just believe it. Once bad ideas and lies get entrenched into the group narrative they are very hard to dislodge and correct.. I know this case very well,, There is ZERO evidence for an Orchards jump, it is just made up. There is evidence for the 8:11 jump.
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Ryan's new video, he does a very good job, except Cooper did jump at 8:11 not Orchards. Ryan has that wrong. I have new data that corroborates the 8:11 time. Cossey is describing his own rig with the hard pull, not Cooper's.. Ryan's pic of NORJAK didn't debunk the placard.. NORJAK never had that particular (Hick's) placard, it was for a somewhat rare optional emergency airstair release system.. the placard NORJAK had was a different one. This was determined years ago.
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Here we go again...... It is like finding mustard on the tie and claiming Cooper worked in a mustard factory..
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some errors... minus 7 deg F,, jumped at 8:17 Ulis's theory,, Cooper buried and returned... Money not bound any other way.. 3 separate packets..had to be hand buried no other possible explanation.. yes there is..it arrived as a single bundle from the river Clip..
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Would have been open 2-3 feet.. I wonder about the lighting.. Did Cooper have the stairwell light on? There is a switch on the interphone panel.
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The transcript from the missing video is.. 2:30 - was a dark early evening 5:30-6 o’clock and i turned my lights off so that they/he wouldn’t see me but I flew behind him north of the Columbia River it was a 727 and the back door was down and so I could see in the airplane and I didn’t see any movement and where he went I have no idea but I say and I told them and I said he's north of the Columbia River somewhere he knew where to bail out at the right time and that’s why I am sure he was out before I got to the airplane. The time is wrong, but the interview was almost 50 years later. The rest makes sense. I have done an analysis that confirms Soderlind's 8:11 jump time.. Cooper's jump time is no longer debatable. Cooper could not have jumped after 8:11.
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Skip Hall 1968 interview.... He shows extreme forehead lines and big creases from the outside of the eyes down over the cheeks.. He also has a large growth on his left side above the mouth next to the moustache.. very prominent in motion video, harder to see in a still.. another growth on the right side below the nostril.. and a small mole/mark upper left cheek as well as an obvious scar. No NORJAK witness mentioned any of these unique features,,, ELIMINATED Of course, nobody pointed this out to Limbach.. Forehead lines and cheek scar. Large Growth above mouth. Cheek scar, large growth. 2 of them. growth above mouth scar and mole/mark scar, mole and 2 growths. Severe creases...
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My view on the tie... The "fingerprint" is the totality and wide range of particles, not the few. Looking at a few particles and claiming a match to an environment is like using one ridge point of a fingerprint and claiming a match... An analogy might be a mechanic who only works on Tesla's... vs a mechanic that works on all types of vehicles. Those tie particles indicate such a wide variety that the environment must also reflect a wide exposure.. not a narrow one.. So, picking out one or a few particles doesn't work. The uniqueness or "fingerprint" is the wide variety of particles. The tie environment exposure must match the wide variety of particles found.. Like TBAR, I doubt we will be able to prove anything... just theories. Then, there is a possibility Cooper was not the one wearing the tie when the particles were deposited.
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That is different from the survival video, Ulis has 100% identified the tie environment and it is NOT RemCru this time.. He will do a live YT.
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Ulis mentioned it, but it isn't really a Cooper accurate thing... it is about how he would have survived if he landed in the Cascades. Part of a survival series..
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No, I got blocked from that FB group even though I never posted anything... nice bunch. The RemCru metallurgy fiasco,, what a rabbit hole. At least Eric isn't giving up.....
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This case is so messed up... like an Abbott and Costello routine.. bad theories, bad suspects, misunderstandings and even lies.. Gryder claims he found Cossey's/Cooper's missing NB6. It is a B12 with a B4 harness. Not Cooper's. Gryder then claims he is not a rig expert. Ryan debunks Gryder claiming correctly that it is not an NB6.. but claims Cooper had an NB6. Cooper's NB6 claim comes ONLY from Cossey who is a serial liar. Further, there is no corroboration for Cossey's claim and both Hayden's description and the packing card conflict with Cossey. To make it worse, Cossey never supplied his packing records which he was required to keep, he even claimed he gave everything he had to FBI but he did not. Cossey hid and lied about the evidence that would have supported his NB6 claim. So, Ryan has used Cossey's claim of an NB6 to refute Gryder when in fact it is very unlikely that the chute Cooper used was an NB6... Ryan's debunking on that basis is itself bunk. Gryder's found rig was not Cooper's, the canopy was not a match based on the packing card, it did not have D rings, the handle was not moved to the other side, it was not a B12. Cooper's was a military WW2 era version similar to the tan civilian chute left behind but Olive Drab. Of course Ryan claims that Hayden did not understand what Olive Drab is.. how he knows that I am not sure, just making it up,, The irony, Gryder's found rig is not Cooper's but not because it is NOT an NB6. TBH, it is rather amusing. To debunk Gryder publicly Ryan has committed to Cooper using an NB6,, that is why he defends Cossey's dubious claim, a bias. If he admits the fact that Cossey's claim was unsubstantiated his Gryder debunking fails. and due to the over reliance on Cossey, the FBI was looking for the wrong chute.. Cossey lied to Larry Carr and Larry still believes him.
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Vordahl,, ridiculous suspect, not COOPER.. What a fiasco thrust upon the Vortex.. Vordahl was connected via the tie particles, TiSb patent, RemCru and metallurgy. This tie connection was the sales pitch. False. All nonsense, the patent was not for a unique TiSb ratio, the patent was misrepresented, there is no tie link to RemCru or metallurgy and the Ti particles were not accurately identified. So, Vordahl has no connection to Norjak. A random character in this tragic play. He was older, 58. WE were told he was exceptional for his age, eating organic and a competitive tennis player. Well, then he wasn't a smoker. Older competitive tennis players who eat organic don't smoke. He was a PHD who worked on the Manhattan project.. doesn't sound like Cooper. There are probably tens of thousands of random people that can tick many of the Cooper boxes... Suspects always run into a wall,,, usually early on, some get further than others but the last wall is putting him on the plane.
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Braden, also not Cooper.. and not because of height and his nose. He was probably 5'9" in shoes. He was a legit badass with skills Cooper was not... Braden had dimples, a crooked mouth, thinner straight hair, no protruding lower lip and light grey eyes... and nothing links him to Norjak... ELIMINATED
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Here is a credibility litmus test... Anyone who thinks this is Cooper's forehead is either delusion or extremely biased. NO Norjak witness ever mentioned severe forehead lines.. besides no connection to Norjak and the wrong hair, these lines are so unique and obvious that this is dispositive for Skip Hall. No way around it. ELIMINATED. Skip might as well have a tattoo on his forehead that says "NOT COOPER"... People who know better keep pushing him as a legitimate suspect.
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A good example for poor analysis is the Gunther book. Almost everyone trashed Gunther and claimed he made it all up.. and they were all wrong. IMO, it doesn't take much to analyze the facts and reach the conclusion that Gunther was actually contacted by somebody claiming to be Cooper,, whether a hoaxer or possibly the real Cooper. People didn't grasp the context of the book... it was his experience, a story told to him, he wasn't claiming it was true. This was a no brainer... most people failed. Then the Clara/Dayton letter fiasco,,
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It seems unlikely because you made a false assumption.. These were areas marked on a map in the River. Not the beach, shore or banks.. I assume they clamshell dredged then barged to the Fazio's... but that was not explained. The next line of thought is,, did the sand from the river for their operation contain the money. Extremely unlikely, the money would have had to go into the river then get scooped, deposited back onto the Fazio's then get washed back into the River to land a half mile downstream.. all while maintaining its integrity. Nope.
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An Orchards landing is speculation, there is no evidence for it... It is a product of groupthink 50+ years later.. It is very common and rational in this case for people to look for things that were missed or wrong initially to explain the failure to resolve the case.. to do that 50+ years later requires some good evidence, that does not exist for Orchards. Some error or misunderstanding must have occurred for the case to be unsolved.. so there is a bias to extreme speculation. Problem is... it is a high bar to prove these things and too many people are using speculation.. A handful of influencers are driving the narrative and mislead people by expressing opinions, not facts. To claim it is now settled that Cooper jumped at Orchards is an expression of an opinion, it is not fact and has no supporting evidence.. Be very suspicious of opinions masquerading as fact.. No evidence Cooper jumped at Orchards, the evidence supports 8:11. No evidence for Cunningham's revised path times,, evidence supports original times. No evidence to corroberate Cossey's NB6 claim.. evidence contradicts Cossey's description and we can't confirm the model of the military rig Cooper used. No evidence Cooper was 6' tall. This is an opinion. FBI used 5'8" as the lower bound for suspects and witnesses had him from 5'9". No evidence sketch A is more accurate than B.. That is an opinion. FBI said B is more accurate. Sketch B is an almost perfect match for Murphy and many witnesses liked Murphy (below glasses w hat on). This is key because Murphy was viewed by witnesses well before sketch B was created.