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Here is a link to three pictures from inside Cooper plane in January of 1972. One picture shows a guy on the aft stairs with a helmet on ready to jump. http://www.washingtonhistory.org/search.aspx?q=db+cooper Digital photograph showing the interior passenger cabin, towards the rear of the Boeing 727 aircraft hijacked by DB Cooper on Nov. 24, 1971 (aircraft ID number N467US). Orginal photo taken while aircraft was in flight, January 6, 1972. On this date, a flight test originated from the airfield to recreate the jump from a 727 in flight made by Dan Cooper, aka DB Cooper, on Nov. 24, 1971. The test was part of the FBI's investigation of the Cooper hijacking, to try and determine the search area for the hijacker. Visible in this image are three US Air Force personnel and one unidentified employee of Northwest Airlines, preparing a weighted sled with a parachute, to recreate the escape of the hijacker by parachute out the rear airstair of the Boeing 727.

Hi Tom, Attached is a collage of pictures, people digging at Tena Bar. Don't know if all are FBI. One picture is from your site. Maybe you will find them helpful if you don't already have them. Maybe you will choose to proceed with researching the money found at Tena/Tina Bar and the Money offered to Tina on the plane possible connection. As sailsaw brought up at the museum.

According to Ckret post on Dec. 5, 2007, one bundle was offered to Tina. I guess Gray didn't read this Ckret post for his book. I think he missed the opportunity to put one of the most interesting aspects of the case in his book "Skyjack". Ckret doesn't mention additional bundles being offered. Ckret Post below link.... http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3037203;search_string=ckret%20offered%20money;guest=114492473#3037203 ************************************* Ckret Dec 5, 2007, 3:25 PM Post #678 of 1694 (2979 views) "When Tina brought the money to Cooper, Cooper started talking excitedly about it (Flo's assessment about him being child like). He talked about how heavy it was and had Flo hold the bag so she could feel the weight. Tina then joked with Cooper about it being a lot of money and could she have some. Cooper reached into the bag and gave her a bundle of money. Tina then said to him she was just joking and that she could not accept gratuities and handed the bundle back to Cooper"

Do you know if Cooper offered the Stews money other than the $19 dollars? If so, what is your source for Cooper offering the Stews three bundles of money?

Did you skim anything from the 1940 census. I looked (I think) at the Lake Shore census papers for 1940 and didn't see his name there. He was listed as living in Lake Shore in the 1930 census. Maybe he had moved out to Tena Bar or in that general area by 1940. If he did live in the Tena Bar area it might not be hard to sift through the census papers in that area as there were probably not many inhabitants.

Gray never mentions the FBI or Bank people binding the bundles with rubberbands. McCoy loot appears to not have rubberbands on them.... Picture Attached....

Amazon Said... Smokin said.. Think the Fazio's change the spelling to capitalize on the Tina Mucklow connection? A little over 2 months before Ingram found Cooper's money, the show "In Search Of" with Leonard Nimoy featuring the DB Cooper case was shown on December 6th, 1979. The show was very popular back then (six seasons run) and cable was not everywhere like it is now. Many places only had three network channels. I wonder how much of an effect did the "In Search Of" show have on people in the Northwest as far as reinvigorating their memories of the Cooper case that was then 8 years old. The Ingrams? Fazio's? Speaking of Tena/Tina Bar... It's interesting that Cooper offered the stewardesses his 19 dollar change from buying the Bourbon and Whiskey. The only Cooper money is found at a bar. Tina's Bar. Excerpt from Grays book... "He fishes around in his pants for $19 he received from Flo nearly fours ago, on the tarmac in Portland, for the bourbon and Seven he ordered and spilled. He offers the change. Flo and Alice shake their heads. "Sorry" "No Tips" The stews scurry off the plane. Tina does not leave. She stands with him at the back of the plane."

Great Finds Smoke! Seems like I saw the name Tell or Teil somewhere on a DZ search before. I think the correct history should be known. Having said that. ******** The chances of the money planted *********** Local and non local people would think it was spelled Tina if the name was only heard. It was a popular fishing spot. I don't know if there was a sign at Tena/Tina bar before the money was found in 1980. If there was a sign out front that read "Tena Bar" I would think there was much less a chance the money was planted. If there wasn't a sign out front then there is an increased chance the money was planted by somebody local to the area. Who only heard the name. If there was a sign out front that read "Tina Bar" then I think the money could have been planted by somebody less familiar with the area.

According to Georger on Feb. 11, 2011...Post # 22130 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4058497;search_string=tina%20tena;guest=114435818#4058436 "This TENA stuff may have been started when the Seattle PI used the name TENA on their map. A lot of people saw that and used TENA thereafter." The map shows "Tena Bar" in the wrong place, east of Vancouver Some say there is actually a Tena Bar at this location, east of Vancouver. Seattle PI map attached

According to Jerry Thomas... "The Bar was named after the original owners daughter. according to the Fazio's brothers. Jerry" The original owners daughter was named Tina and other DZ members with family in the area also say Tina Bar is the true name. Gray calls it Tena Bar in his book "Skyjack" and Tom Kaye appears to think it is Tena bar at his website CitizenSleuths.com Evidently, Greggory Gray and Tom Kaye are wrong!

I'm trying to figure out when Tena (Aka) Tina bar was named. Before the hijacking and money find? None of the articles I've looked at about the money find (year 1980) mentioned Tena or Tina bar. (Maybe they wanted to keep it secret?) ALSO....Was the (sand bar?) name changed to Tina from Tena after the Money was found by Ingram. (A tribute to Tina Mucklow?) I could have sworn I saw a sign that read Tena Bar. (somewhere on the web) Here is a 2009 image of the Sign to the entrace of TINA bar aka Tena bar from Tom Kayes website. Kaye says the name Tena is MISSPELLED on the Sign....BIZARRE!

Maybe you or someone else will know...... How long has Tena Bar been known as Tena Bar? Why does the Sign at entrance way read Tina Bar? Didn't the Sign use to read Tena Bar?

Per Gray... I'm mistaken After receiving the 200K, Cooper offered $19.00 dollars from his pants pocket to the three stewardesses. Flo and Alice say "Sorry", "No Tips". Evidently, Cooper was giddy happy to get the 200k (asks FLO to hold the bag and feel how heavy it is) AND THEN offers them 19 dollars? Cooper is a cheap Arse JERK!!!

That reminds me. Paul Geivett is suppose to be at the WSHS opening today revealing all his KC information to interested reporters. I wonder how the WSHS opening went. Some of what KC wrote in those documents you attached looks like clues Geivett has been giving out.

Seems to me that Cooper developed somewhat of a bond with Tina Mucklow, more so after the passengers and other stewardess were let go. Cooper offered Tina Mucklow some of the 200k. Of the 200K, the only money found ends up at Tena's Bar by coincidence? Sounds like a Miracle!....Maybe that is why she became a Nun. What are the chances of that happening besides a Miracle?

Acording to news reports from 1980....The find was first reported on Feb. 13 and it is reported in the Feb. 16 N.Y. Times the FBI called off the search for the Money. Evidently the FBI searched a maximum of 3 days for more Ingram money and Cooper money. That isn't much time considering Tena's Bar length along the river (where I think more money could be found) is about 1/2 mile. A quarter mile north of the Ingram find and a quarter mile south. Lots of sand. I guess if they brought in a bull dozer and large sifter they could have made such a daunting task easier. Reference Image Attached...

I never said I didn't accept Ckret's statement. I made an argument of logic. It is interesting that Gray's book doesn't mention the randomizing of the money bundles. That information would have been bookworthy. Gray had access to the FBI files, he was monitoring the DZ message board and in contact with Ckret aka Carr. Maybe someone should email Gray.

The 3 foot deep money information came from an FBI agent during the time when the money was found. The FBI agents are top notch people. I don't think he had any reason to make up the story. Maybe from some type of geological process the shards were able to migrate lower than the bundles of money OR the Bundles of money were pushed up from deeper in the sand.

I try to pinpoint Cooper's money find using Tom Kayes overlay at Citizen Sleuths. On Google Earth there are historical maps. For Tena bar they go back to 1990 Attach are a sequence of image snapshots of the money find location from 1990 to 2012. I notice in 2002 and 2011 the money find area was definitely underwater.

I don't know about the Bag but I did find the following article interesting. http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=QP4yAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ZYMDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6378,3379551&dq=db+cooper&hl=en I read an old article from the time when the money was found on Feb. 13, 1980. The FBI agent said.. I guess those pieces three feet below were once attached to the three bundles. I wonder how far Horizontally away were the little pieces of money from the main bundle stacks Maybe that is why the FBI dug trenches looking deeper. The trenches seem to be only dug near the money found. I wonder if more tiny pieces of bills could still be found.

I don't have an opinion on whether the money was planted or not. I think more tests need to be done with a Canvas bag and rubberbands inside. Old Army Tents were made of Canvas and were water resistant. This type of canvas could have helped preserve the money and rubberbands from the elements before the Canvas bag ultimately broke apart (or money fell out) and the three bundles ended up at Tena's bar.

Hmm...Didn't know he offered the stewardess and flight crew? 3 bundles. (what is your source?) Seems to me it would be logical for Cooper to offer bundle(s) from off the top of the stack inside the Canvas bag. According to Gray the canvas bag was 1 foot by 1 foot and 9 inches high. Too bad we can't place how the serial numbered bundles were organized within the canvas bag. It is interesting that 3 bundles? were offered to the Crew (I thought it was offered just to Tina) and 3 bundles were found at Tena bar. Tina Mucklow hint? I'm not saying the money was planted. But the Coincidences are compelling.

I watched the 1979 television show "In Search Of" with Leonard Nimoy regarding the D.B. Cooper case. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_yvGpipjzE It's interesting to watch because the money has not been found by Ingram yet and R.H. looks young. PLUS there is a good view of a Interphone on the same type of 727 that Cooper hijacked. The Interphone is located right at the exit door in the aft of the plane. Pictures of Interphone attached. (series of three pictures approaching the Interphone in the aft)

Post number 844, April 1, 2008 from Ckret... "It is my understanding the money was wraped in rubber bands, no paper bands. the money was put together in different bill counts so it looked as if it was put together in a hurry." That is not the most definitive statement and it doesn't seem logical to me. Cooper has a bomb on the plane and the bank employees purposely radomized the bundles thus making it hard for Cooper to quickly sample check the money count in a few bundles. The path of least resistance is to bundle them evenly so Cooper won't potentially get upset.

A little more information...... In February of 2008 the PCGS curreny people found 35 additional serial numbers within Ingram bundles. "This process revealed 35 additional full serial numbers that are on the FBI’s 1971 complete list of notes given as ransom, but apparently were not recorded when the notes discovered by Mr. Ingram in 1980 subsequently were inventoried by investigators. We are pleased to provide the FBI with these ‘new’ numbers with the hope that any new evidence may provide useful leads in this case." http://www.coinnews.net/2008/02/27/pcgs-currency-notifies-fbi-of-d-b-cooper-serial-numbers-3953/ A few months later in June of 2008 PCGS says "Ingram found approximately $5,800 of the $200,000 ransom given to the skyjacker" after the 35 additional serial numbers were discovered a few months earlier. http://www.coinnews.net/2008/06/13/db-cooper-notes-make-37k-at-heritages-americana-memorabilia-auction/ So it seems unclear to the PCGS currency people if Ingram found exactly $5,800 dollars.