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From what I've read, many of the bills were stuck to each other. So I don't think the Ingrams could have taken them apart too much. Attached is the front page article from the Oregonian on Feb 13, 1980. You can see the Ingrams sitting in front of the bills with RH standing behind them. The money is described as 3 bundles which contained 12 packets of money. Maybe they got that idea from looking at the money layout on the table. Picture isn't the best. Article attached. I also found this 2006 article about Brian Ingram selling the money. It appears he only has 25 bills that had readable serial numbers. No mention of selling other bills before then. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.arktimes.com/binary/f0bd/2006_1-24_14-37-2-697.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/mena-man-to-sell-db-cooper-cash/Content?oid%3D863980&h=150&w=200&sz=11&tbnid=ac9rUEgLU8YYUM:&tbnh=71&tbnw=95&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcooper%2Bmoney%2Bingram%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=cooper+money+ingram&usg=__CyBLrSIFIV6EPRqQ3SktnlIIG6A=&hl=en&sa=X&ei=kE8hUrKVC_TOsASs34HoDg&ved=0CDIQ9QEwBg

Looking at a better picture you are probably right. What I like about the picture, it seems to show a bundle of money stuck together and undisturbed. The picture was taken within just a few days of the money find. (maybe a day or so after) I still think the bill on top could be the top or bottom bill, still bundled until the rubberband fell away when touched. I was able to figure out the serial number even though Page 30 (the page it should be on) is not listed at the FBI vault. The Serial number is L55 479 078B (1963A) What is even more interesting.....From Gray's book... It seems the Packet/Bundle? of bills would be stuck together like the Oregonian pic shows and he could only read the outer SN. The Serial Number on top of Ralph's packet is L55 376 548B (1963A) The Serial Number from the Oregonian pic is. L55 459 079B (1963A) There are 10,000 serial numbers and these two outer bundle numbers are probably within 60 serial numbers of each other on the list. I need to verify when I find page 30. WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF THAT????

Attached is a picture of a Tena Bar bundle from the Oregonian on Feb 13 1980. I'm 90 percent sure there is part of a rubberband on the top of the bundle. If it is part of a rubberband than the serial number on the top bill is either the beginning of a sequence or end of sequence for one bundle. The top bill serial number should be on the Microfilm that was found showing stops and starts of bundles. The Microfilm Tom Kaye spoke of.

What was the point of putting rubberbands on the bundles? Evidently there was no reshuffling of money. I notice the vast majority of the McCoy bundles had paper wraps on them.

Thanks for the Information Tom!

Here are the serial numbers I found on the net with corresponding page numbers. Don't know if I can find anymore. Page 2 C13 871 652A 63A Page 3 E41 933 578A Page 4 F07 553 334A 691 Page 6 H27 412 928A 63A I02 591 811A 69 Page 7,8 or 9 (pages missing) J12 657 135A Page 10 L01 701 113A 69 L01 842 041A 69 L02 882 1118 63A L04 461 895? 63A L06 832 736A 69 Page 14 L20 210 452A 69 L20 301 456A 69 Page 16 L29 575 638A 69 Page 18 L32 700 814A 69 Page 22 L34 212 082A 69 L34 4 (partial) Page 22 or 23 Page 23 L34 589 413A 69 L34 628 654A 69 Page 24 L36 246 726A 69 Page 25 L38 138 140A 60 Page 27 L43 214 579A 69 Page 28 L47 621 840A 69 Page 29 L51 236 3778 63A Page 30 (page missing) L55 376 548B L59 439 4????? Page 33 L72 525 8388 63A

Yea.....L seems to be the most common bill. Attached is the cluster layout I have for about 28 bills. 2 more bills will go into the higher number bundles if I can find the missing pages. From the FBI vault there are 29 pages....suppose to be 34 pages. Pages 7,8,9,30,31,32 are missing. Notice Bundles 27, 28 and 29.....represents all of Page 10. I found 5 Bills on page 10.

Greggory Gray had access to FBI files like nobody else in the general public before, for his book "Skyjack". In Search Of.... mentions the money came from several banks Gray says One Bank... In Search of.... Mentions FBI busy recording serial numbers at FBI HQ Gray says.....The FBI Boss looked at the open bag of money and that was it. I'm finding Gray to be pretty accurate with what went down.

I remember seeing that. It appeared they were doing cooper money. Having said that, It's becoming more apparent that the FBI had no involvement with documenting money (serial numbers) until after Cooper already had the money. Evidently, the FBI started distributing Booklets with all the serial numbers on December 8th of 1971. I think most banks got the booklets of serial numbers. Would be nice to have one of those booklets as a conversation piece. As far as serial number order in the booklet (alpha-numeric or random), it seems Greggory Gray or R.H. would know. Maybe one of them would even know if the booklet matched the order of the bills. I would think the booklets were Alpha-Numeric, If not, it would take a long time to look up just one bill. The serial number publications in the newspaper might be direct copies from the Booklets.

The more serial numbers we can get the better. Ingram has at least 85 serial numbers. I now have 30, of those many might be from Ingrams auctions. Different patterns develop as more serial numbers are included. I have notice that 5 of my 30 serial numbers are from page 10 which consists of 3 (2 thousand) dollar bundles. Page 10 represents only 3 percent of all Cooper serial numbers, yet my 5 serial numbers represent about 17 percent of my 30 serial numbers.

I have no idea. I'll try to look into it. Take a look at the following I developed from newspapers, DZ, Gray's book, FBI vault. Cooper Money and Serial Number Timeline Nov. 24 1971 - Cooper demands 200,000 in negotiable American currency. Denomination not important. Seattle First National Bank employees debundle paper wrapped used 20 dollar bills ($2000 per bundle) and rebundle them with rubberbands in *various amounts* to make it appear they were in a hurry. The Serial numbers are already listed on Microfiche at bank. The marked bills have been set aside in case of robbery. The bundled money is placed in a canvas bag. Once full it measures 1 foot by 1 foot and 9 inches high. The next person to touch the money is Cooper in the plane. Cooper offers Tina Mucklow a bundle of money but she declines the offer. Cooper jumps with money from plane. Dec. 8 1971 - FBI distributes a "Random list" of the known Cooper serial numbers nationwide. The list is 34 pages long. 1976 - Several newspapers print a 34 page list of Cooper serial numbers in alpha-numeric order. Feb 10 1980 - The Ingram family is on a picnic at a spot locally known as Tena's bar on a Sunday. (The beach is owned by New Columbia Garden's company.) A popular fishing spot. Brian Ingram clears the sand to ready an area for a campfire. He finds 3 bundles of money a few inches underneath the sand. Brian alerts his parents. The money is set aside while they continue their picnic. The Ingrams take the money home and wash the money to seperate the bills. They call the FBI. Feb 11 1980 - The Ingrams take the money to FBI agent Ralph Himmelsbach. Ralph has a list of Cooper's serial numbers in a booklet. Ralph goes through all 10,000 serial numbers in the booklet to find the first serial number from the Ingram money. Suggesting Ralph's list isn't in Alpha-Numeric order or the Letter at the beginning of the serial number isn't available. Feb 12 1980 - FBI Agents go to Tena Bar to try and find more money. They find fragments of more money up to 3 feet deep. Feb 13 1980 - FBI agent William Baker claims originally the "money was bundled in packages of several sizes to make it appear that it was randomly done, as if it was done in a hurry". Baker claims the money amount estimate at Tena Bar was originally $4000 but has been revised to a few thousand. The actual amount can't be estimated because the money was bundled in various amounts. FBI agent Baker claims the packaging and the numbered sequence of the bundles indicates the bundles had not been seperated and they were in much the same order as delivered to Seattle Tacoma airport. 1986 - The money found at Tena Bar (approximately 6 thousand) is split evenly between Ingram and the Airliner insurance company. Insurance company claims they will sell bills to collectors and Brian will use his money for college.

PCGS stated in early 2008 approximately $5800 was found, a few months after PCGS submitted the new SN's they found to the FBI. I found a couple of places that put the amount at $5880 Nov. 25, 1981 article http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=dwMhAAAAIBAJ&sjid=WXUFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2665,5336872&dq=db+cooper+5880&hl=en April 2, 2008 article http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=45c_AAAAIBAJ&sjid=GFYMAAAAIBAJ&pg=4951,5762652&dq=db+cooper+5880&hl=en In a June 12, 1986 article......The total money of about 6K (5800?) was split in 1986 between Ingram and the airliner Insurance company. Per the Ottawa Citizen. http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=q6QyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=m-8FAAAAIBAJ&pg=3433,811106&dq=db+cooper+money+ingram&hl=en In a April 1, 2008 article it is stated..... "Ingram owns 84 D.B. Cooper bills and fragments that were authenticated by PCGS Currency in February and encapsulated in specially-labeled protective, archival storage holders." http://www.coinlink.com/News/banknotes/heritage-offers-%E2%80%9Cdb-cooper%E2%80%9D-skyjacking-notes/ It seems like Ingram has a list of several dozen serial numbers.

According to a Feb. 14 1980 "The Citizen" newspaper article out of Ottawa, Canada (UPI), Brian found only $3000 in in 3 bundles. Link at bottom. According to the Article there were two different finds. Ingram found his money first. (from what I know he found money on Feb. 10th) The rest of the money (amount not specified) was found by the FBI on Tuesday and Wednesday Feb. 12 and the 13th. http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ga4yAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fe4FAAAAIBAJ&pg=6963,3065970&dq=db+cooper+money+ingram&hl=en

Very informative report! I found the two following newspaper references at Tom Kayes website regarding Tena Bar money find. http://citizensleuths.com/tenabar.html Click "Here" at very bottom of Tom's web page. I haven't read the articles. Maybe Tom talked about what exactly is in the articles. The articles sound confusing.

Cooper could have died and somebody else could have buried it. -If- the money was buried other than by nature.

I haven't seen a list of ingram serial numbers anywhere. It would be nice for Brian ingram to publish the serial numbers he has. I imagine he has enough of the 300 serial numbers to possibly develop a very good pattern of how the bills were sorted. Sometimes I wonder how many of the Tena bar serial numbers are legible. In some pictures the bills seem completely black (looks like a black sheet of paper) from exposure to the enviroment. I developed my Tena Bar SN list from pictures of Tena Bar money found on the net. Currently I'm up to 20 serial numbers. I have finally found two serial numbers from the same bundle. If I can find many more serial numbers and they continue to cluster genernally within just a few bundles then I think we can say for certain the money was generally bundled in a alpha-numeric order (as found on micofiche) when cooper got the bundles.

The list was printed in Alpha-Numeric order in various Newspapers in 1976 including the Portland Journal. The list printed in the newspapers is at the FBI site under DB Cooper vault and is available to the public. Each page printed in the Newspaper had 300 serial numbers or 3 bundles of 2000 dollars. Starting from the beginning you can divide each page into 3 bundles. For example.....if the Tena Bar serial number is found on page 21 and is within the first 100 serial numbers......3 X 20 pages + 1 bundle = Bundle 61.

When I read different bill counts...I think some Bundles might have 90 bills, some might have 101 bills. Does he mean Serial Numbers? Even with different bill counts, I would expect the majority of the Tena Bar money serial numbers to be grouped into 3 different main bundles .....with a few 20's elsewhere. If they started with Alpha-Numeric bundling. If the FBI photographed the money, might be able to tell how the money was arranged from the photographs.

The randomization, because they were in a hurry, does not make sense. Hurried bankers know how to bundle money properly.

This is an interesting article from 1972. Donald Murphy conned a Newsweek reporter that he was DB Cooper. The reporter had to pay 30K for the interview. http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=9KFYAAAAIBAJ&sjid=kPgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7413,4132542&dq=donald+murphy+cooper&hl=en Evidently the FBI distributed a "Random List" of all Cooper serial numbers throughout the country in Dec of 1971. Donald Murphy superimposed 3 Cooper serial numbers on 3 twenty dollar bills and xerox it. He show the xerox to the reporter as proof. Picture of Fake Cooper bills attached...

I went back and read the Ckret comment again and your right. I'm up to 17 serial numbers and a odd pattern has developed. My take from Gray book is the bank stored the bills in $2000 bundles with paper wraps. It would seem logical to presume the bank bundled the bills in Alpha-Numeric order as listed on the microfiche. Afterall this money was set aside for an occassion like a hijacking. Having said that.....the 17 serial numbers I have come across are found in 17 different bundles, if they were once arrange alpha-numerically like I think. 17 different serial numbers from 17 different bundles out of 100 bundles. It appears the bank unwrapped all the bills, then shuffled and mixed all of them as much as they could, then put rubberbands on them. Tena bar money distribution chart attached.

They don't make rubberbands like they use to. ;) The bundles were randomized per Ckret. Did the FBI or whoever Randomize the money within the bundles make a list of the Randomized money Serial number makeup within each bundle? It would seem to be prudent as one can track Cooper spending of the money if the 20's got spent. Like..... is he spending one bundle at a time? If there is a list of how the 20's were randomized within each bundle.....does the Tena bar bundles match the FBI list of randomized bundle makeups? Who knows? As far I know Ckret never said. They wanted it to look like a rush job. They had time to make a list.

Well that should clear up the fact (if anyone has doubts) that Dan Cooper didn't write his name on the ticket. Now we have the problem of.... The 3 Bundle Enigma.

HOLY COW... Cooper offers Tina one bundle of cash. In the later half of 1976 several newpapers print all the Cooper serial numbers (3 Bundles per page) About 3 years later 3 Bundles found at Tena/Tina Bar. Tina becomes a Nun. IT'S A MIRACLE!!!! I tell you, IT'S A MIRACLE!!! Newspapers printing 3 Bundles per page attached (From FBI file)

Over the weekend I manage to round up 15 serial numbers off the net from the nearly 300 serial numbers found at Tena Bar. About a 5% sample. From the limited number, it appears a pattern developed. The FBI published 33 pages of Serial numbers with about 300 serial number per each page. Each page is numbered. The bills are listed in Alpha-Numeric Serial number order. What's interesting is how the 15 sample serial numbers fall within the list. I found serial numbers for Pages 2,4,6,10 -18- 24,25,27,28,29,30,31,32,33 There were no serial numbers for pages 1,3,5,7,8,9,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,20,21,22,23,26 Page 18 being the only page in the middle range of serial numbers. This unscientific study suggest the bundles at Tena Bar were disportionately bundled either from the Lower range of serial numbers or the higher end. (with twice as many from the higher range).