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Sucks!!! No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Met them!!!!! No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Capt. Phil !!! Missed !! No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Tossing ?? What am I missing here ? But back to the game Ball No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Were they tried and convicted of murder? Served their sentence and now are out? No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Tater No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Meds I'm allergic to cats but I have one. No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Lilac Love the smell No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Yum No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

1) rapist 2) anything involving a child. No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Coopers landing No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Alaskan No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Coffee No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Again ? No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

One reason why I'm cautious about agreeing with you is that I'm unsure of what direction you are heading in. When you opened this thread, your first post seemed extremely reasonable: how do we keep the violent rapists/molesters out of these roles (something most would agree with) without punishing the basically innocent folks like the 18 year old sleeping consensually with a 16 year old girlfriend. However, you seem to be evolving into a more intolerant, less reasonable, stance--more recently saying that you absolutely do want to bar the 18 year old kid and also using what I'm sure you realize is very loaded language: referring to an 18 year old sleeping with a 16 year old as "something involving a child". In my opinion it definitely is not. You started out being reasonable but you've moved away from that position--so you are going in an unhealthy direction IMHO. That is part of the reason I find it hard to agree with you. If you'd continued on the tack you started on I would be extremely supportive. You misunderstood me then. I don't see the 16 yr old as a child and that's not what I meant at all when I said involving a child. I hold the same opinion I held at the beginning. As it stands if the 18 yr old had to be on the national registry as a sex offender then no that person wouldn't be able to be a TI. It's not fair I know but in order to get this done under the current registry system that's the way it would have to be. I see the need to work towards changing who gets put on the sex offenders registry and for what. But again it's hard because of plea bargains etc. that are made. I'm very intolerant of someone molesting a child or raping someone and then after " paying their due" to society going on with their lives with no consequences. For them I see not becoming a TI one of the consequences they should have. I'll say it again let them enjoy the sport all they want just not in this way. The thing I don't think people are aware of is,that it's not just those that don't want to see the 18 yr old kid that slept with his girlfriend or the guy that streaked or peed in public that doesn't want this. It's the rapist and the child molester that don't want to lose a rating/certification. No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

And kill the sport?????!!!!! No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Well like so many others we disagree. I think it is a safety issue and an issue for the skydiving community as a whole. I don't see letting them represent this sport. No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Not sure I agree with this. No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

That's pervs not perps !! No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Congratulations !!!!!!! Woohoo!!! He's gorgeous!! Don't worry I was a preemie too and I turned out great!!

Yes and that's why I go with, if they're on the national registry or not. No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Sometimes it's not a matter of being able to prove something. It's a matter of not wanting to put that child through the trauma of a trial. No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

Alright then define child abusers. What about the case I stated. Where the molester was able to get a plea down to corrupting the morals of a child. Some might not see that as abuse or accept whatever lie the perpetrator came up with. I'll say since helping with this I've heard enough sick stories to last a life time. I've also taken enough crap for wanting this. (Not from anyone on this thread.) No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

I agree things need to be fixed but I don't agree with doing nothing until it all can be fixed. One step is not allowing a registered sex offender to be certified. Another huge step is redefining the definition of sex offender and who should be put on a national registry. No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.

I'll give my opinion: 1)Anything involving a child 2)Rape/assault Yes I know that would include someone streaking and a kid seeing them. Yes and the 18 yr old sleeping with his 16 yr old girlfriend. It would also include the cases of assault and rape. Or the case of a child molester molesting a child and then being able to plea down to corrupting the morals of a child. (Yes,real case I heard of) It stinks I know but to go back to what I asked, they then wouldn't be allowed to be TI's. No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried.