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Ghost Guns - National Geographic Documentary To get away with a crime, criminals look for completely untraceable guns. Enter the “ghost” gun: an exact replica with a fake serial number and no ballistic record — a gun that is potentially invisible to law enforcement. Craftsmen in the Philippines specialize in making some of the highest quality ghost guns in the world. We follow clones of .45 automatics from a Filipino backyard workshop into the American black market. But ultimately even ghost guns leave a trail. Then they become “burners,” guns so hot no one wants them, except in another country, where the gun’s criminal history is difficult to trace. We follow the burners to Guatemala — a dumping ground for black-market guns — and into the hands of a 14-year-old hit man. A chilling investigation into the world of international criminality, this episode has unprecedented access to the underground world of manufacturers, sellers and gangsters — whose business and brutality all depend on the violent, illegal arms trade. This is why gun control will do absolutely nothing to keep guns out of the hands of common criminals, especially street gangs. You can make it illegal, impossible, or extremely difficult for any regular old country boy to buy a revolver for shooting rattle snakes while he is out checking his cattle, but the people doing "gun" violence will still get guns and still do violence. When law abiding citizens have no legal options, some will turn to the black market which means the gangs and smugglers will cash in big time and the international crime problem will swell drastically.

It won't be long before I'm shopping for one. I only care about saving money so I can feel better about spending it. with 50 jumps in 3yrs. good going! let's hope you keep them gopro's rolling so the younglins have another lesson in the "this is how you could die"-video, or just the "bounce"-video. i like my cypres2, and when it's over and done with in 4yrs, most likely i'll get another one. and feel very confident it wont kill me, kill others or just take a plane down. and very confident it'll save my sorry ass when shit hits the fan.

A study, which just appeared in Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy (pp. 649-694), set out to answer the question in its title: “Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide? A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence.” Contrary to conventional wisdom, and the sniffs of our more sophisticated and generally anti-gun counterparts across the pond, the answer is “no.” And not just no, as in there is no correlation between gun ownership and violent crime, but an emphatic no, showing a negative correlation: as gun ownership increases, murder and suicide decreases. The findings of two criminologists – Prof. Don Kates and Prof. Gary Mauser – in their exhaustive study of American and European gun laws and violence rates, are telling: Nations with stringent anti-gun laws generally have substantially higher murder rates than those that do not. The study found that the nine European nations with the lowest rates of gun ownership (5,000 or fewer guns per 100,000 population) have a combined murder rate three times higher than that of the nine nations with the highest rates of gun ownership (at least 15,000 guns per 100,000 population). For example, Norway has the highest rate of gun ownership in Western Europe, yet possesses the lowest murder rate. In contrast, Holland’s murder rate is nearly the worst, despite having the lowest gun ownership rate in Western Europe. Sweden and Denmark are two more examples of nations with high murder rates but few guns. As the study’s authors write in the report: If the mantra “more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death” were true, broad cross-national comparisons should show that nations with higher gun ownership per capita consistently have more death. Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates. (p. 661) Finally, and as if to prove the bumper sticker correct – that “gun don’t kill people, people do” – the study also shows that Russia’s murder rate is four times higher than the U.S. and more than 20 times higher than Norway. This, in a country that practically eradicated private gun ownership over the course of decades of totalitarian rule and police state methods of suppression. Needless to say, very few Russian murders involve guns. The important thing to keep in mind is not the rate of deaths by gun – a statistic that anti-gun advocates are quick to recite – but the overall murder rate, regardless of means. The criminologists explain: [P]er capita murder overall is only half as frequent in the United States as in several other nations where gun murder is rarer, but murder by strangling, stabbing, or beating is much more frequent. (p. 663 – emphases in original)

The Los Angeles and Chicago metropolitan areas had the most gun murders among the nation’s fifty most-populous metropolitan areas in 2009 and 2010 (the latest years for which data is available), according to a report released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/la-chicago-rank-1-and-2-gun-murders-no-has-highest-rate

I think nothing is going to reduce crime other than more focused policing in higher come areas. Your occupation listed on your profile suggest you are a somewhat intelligent person lol. You know that for every study proving CCW doesn't work, there is one proving it does. For every study showing gun control works, there is one proving it actually increases crime. These aren't soccer moms and red necks arguing about guns. These are Harvard Law studies and UCLA Criminology studies and they all disprove each other constantly. I subscribe to CCW magazine and every month I can cite to you all the incidents where a CCW saved lives without a single shot being fired and lead to the apprehension of the criminal. I can cite cases where cops have had their lives saves by armed citizens. Based purely on statistics, some stats see a drop in crime after enacting CCW laws. Some see the opposite. I think it has less to do with the CCW and more to do with what is going on in that state. There are actually a very small number of people who go through all the trouble to get a CCW. Perfect example of this is Illinois. With he violence in Chicago, Il finally lifted the ban on CCW after being forced into it. But, the state made the process extremely difficult, expensive, and time consuming. There was then a 12-18 processing period before your CCW was issued. So after the CCW was enacted, it was almost 2 years before the first citizens there began to obtain them. Meanwhile during that first year, come continued to rise, and this was cited as empirical proof that CCW does not work. Although in reality, there was no one with a CCW during that time period. Simply untrue. This is not the first time in this thread that you have written stuff than simply isn't true (like claiming the Oregon gunman was under 21). You need to do a better job of fact checking. Since Illinois started granting concealed carry permits this year, the number of robberies that have led to arrests in Chicago has declined 20 percent from last year, according to police department statistics. Reports of burglary and motor vehicle theft are down 20 percent and 26 percent, respectively. In the first quarter, the city’s homicide rate was at a 56-year low. - Washington Times. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/?page=all Fred Hayes, chief of police in Elwood and president of the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police, said he was "pleasantly surprised" that the rollout has gone so quietly. Hayes previously opposed the law but said fears of increased shootings have "not materialized." Arlington Heights Police Chief Gerald Mourning also said he had expected an adjustment period with the new law, but that problems have been virtually non-existent. "We have dealt with it so infrequently that we simply haven't had any difficulties. I am surprised by it. I thought for sure we would encounter issues on a more regular basis," Mourning said. "It has not been an issue for us at all in terms of confrontations or misunderstandings." In Aurora, police Cmdr. Paul Nelson said officers routinely ask during traffic stops if a subject possesses a firearm. If so, the officer will then request to see the concealed-carry license to determine if the weapon is legal, and then ask the subject not to touch the weapon during the traffic stop. "When you look at it, we were the last of 50 states to implement this law. We act like this was some big new deal. In reality, everyone else had been doing it for many years, and there just haven't been any problems," Nelson said. "There was no reason for us to expect that it would be different in Illinois." - Chicago Tribune. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-concealed-carry-one-year-met-20150203-story.html

It won't be long before I'm shopping for one. I only care about saving money so I can feel better about spending it.

That sound your hearing is any credibility you ever had in this forum disappearing. You need to stop talking for a while. So Mophl is a foreigner who claims to hold American citizenship when there is something he can gain from it, but openly objects to Americas foreign policies, hates services members, wants to take away our constitutional rights, and ostracizes anyone who dare disagree with him? Why, Mr. President! Please forgive my tone. I was not expecting to find you in a skydiving forum.

Cypress dimensions are 85x43x32mm with a weight of 188 grams M2 dimensions are 85x45x23mm with a weight of 220 grams Vigil dimensions are 102x51x20mm with a weight of 400 grams So the M2 is the smallest out of the three and weighs just slightly more than a Cypress, but almost half of what a Vigil weighs. The M2 opening altitudes can be manipulated as well, but straight out of the box, it is 885 ft., which is not only the highest default of the three, but sufficient. But like I said. My first one. I had no brand bias. I just looked them over and picked one that I thought was the best purchase option.

For what it's worth, this is my first rig and AAD, but I went with the M2. I downloaded all three user manuals and read them cover to cover, and then I read about the history of AAD and Air Tech and Argus. One thing the M2 had against it was that it was new and untested. So I checked out Mars a.s. They did introduce their first AAD in 2003, but it never really caught on in the skydiving market. They do have a long history of building AAD and emergency equipment and weaponry for various militaries, with the Mig being one of their major contracts. They must be doing something right because he Mig is an awesome plane. I liked the price. Lowest up front price, then hassle free and no additional costs with scheduled maintenance for its 15 year service life. Some people say the money difference here is negligible, but it is a couple hundred up front and the several hundred for the rigging, shipping, and maintenance. I have seen incident reports where a fatality occurred the weekend that jumpers AAD was out for maintenance. I think an AAD save is a once in a life time save, if ever for most jumpers. I feel comfortable that the M2 will work as well as the others on that day, and God forbid that be the one weekend I was jumping without. I also liked the activation altitudes. Cypress 2 is 750, Vigil 2+ is 840, and M2 is 885. This is expert mode or advanced mode I think it was on Vigil, all at the speed of 78 mph or above, I like that little bit of extra altitude that the M2 gives me. I also liked that the M2 is in a brushed aluminum housing with a SS control unit and an SS cutter that has a shape with folate edges to keep it fm rolling and binding the closing loop. The other two have plastic housings.

Tomorrow I'm going to go out in the back yard with a .22 and commit a mass shooting on a colony of moles that has been destroying my yard. I'm going to do it in a safe manner, but it is going to be really fun. It will also be environmentally friendly because the alternative is to put poison gas bombs in their holes. Sometimes I shoot coyotes with an assault rifle at night because they kill my neighbors chickens and harass his livestock. He repays me by letting me deer hunt on his land. When my in laws come up from NYC, my sister in laws like to shoot. They never held a gun till they met me. They have a blast shooting and are both pretty good at it. My wife is more anti gun than anyone on this forum, but she finally agreed to learn how to shoot a .22 and is a natural. She out shot me and I shot for a living. She still hates guns tho. My dad is a Nam vet and enjoys shooting Vietnam and WW2 era weapons. He is a big collector. I have AR 15s because they were my lifeline in the military, I use them in competitions, and they are great varmit guns. None of this for for the purpose of killing people. There is one in my house set aside for that purpose and it is locked up in the night stand. And I live in the middle of no where, so currently it doesn't even need to be there. I live in an area where people don't lock their doors when they go on vacation.

I think nothing is going to reduce crime other than more focused policing in higher come areas. Your occupation listed on your profile suggest you are a somewhat intelligent person lol. You know that for every study proving CCW doesn't work, there is one proving it does. For every study showing gun control works, there is one proving it actually increases crime. These aren't soccer moms and red necks arguing about guns. These are Harvard Law studies and UCLA Criminology studies and they all disprove each other constantly. I subscribe to CCW magazine and every month I can cite to you all the incidents where a CCW saved lives without a single shot being fired and lead to the apprehension of the criminal. I can cite cases where cops have had their lives saves by armed citizens. Based purely on statistics, some stats see a drop in crime after enacting CCW laws. Some see the opposite. I think it has less to do with the CCW and more to do with what is going on in that state. There are actually a very small number of people who go through all the trouble to get a CCW. Perfect example of this is Illinois. With he violence in Chicago, Il finally lifted the ban on CCW after being forced into it. But, the state made the process extremely difficult, expensive, and time consuming. There was then a 12-18 processing period before your CCW was issued. So after the CCW was enacted, it was almost 2 years before the first citizens there began to obtain them. Meanwhile during that first year, come continued to rise, and this was cited as empirical proof that CCW does not work. Although in reality, there was no one with a CCW during that time period.

I think nothing is going to reduce crime other than more focused policing in higher come areas. Your occupation listed on your profile suggest you are a somewhat intelligent person lol. You know that for every study proving CCW doesn't work, there is one proving it does. For every study showing gun control works, there is one proving it actually increases crime. These aren't soccer moms and red necks arguing about guns. These are Harvard Law studies and UCLA Criminology studies and they all disprove each other constantly. I subscribe to CCW magazine and every month I can cite to you all the incidents where a CCW saved lives without a single shot being fired and lead to the apprehension of the criminal. I can cite cases where cops have had their lives saves by armed citizens. Based purely on statistics, some stats see a drop in crime after enacting CCW laws. Some see the opposite. I think it has less to do with the CCW and more to do with what is going on in that state. There are actually a very small number of people who go through all the trouble to get a CCW.

Back to the shooters family, they are at some level responsible for this. If you have a family member with known mental health issues, with a history of mental health treatment, and you know he has firearms at his house and you think his is OK? I haven't been following the story, but didn't he make statements on social media that he was going to do this? It looks to me like a lot of warning signs were ignored. If we had a Soldier that was having trouble handling stress, or presented suicidal or homicidal warnings of any type, we automatically seized all weapons in the house and put the, in the unit arms room until his psychiatrist and either psychologist or social worker cleared him.

This is good and can produce results. Actually punish people who fail to secure them. The background checks happen at gun shows and licensed FFL dealers. It's hard to catch people and enforce it when it is two long time buddies trading a gun for some piece of farm equipment. Maybe the threat of stiffer punishment would help. The problem is all the illegal guns. Stollen or smuggled in for out of the country. They change hands among gangs and felons like its nothing.

***Five pistols and one rifle were found at the college, where the shooter died Thursday after a gunbattle with police, Nunez told reporters. Police searched his apartment and found two pistols, four rifles and a shotgun, she said. All the guns were legally obtained by the shooter or family members over the last three years through a federally licensed firearms dealer Something is wrong with this picture. He is under 21, ... Incorrect. He is (was) 26. Ok, then move pistols next to comment about rifle. Keep everything about failing background checks and straw purchases Thank you for agreeing that the laws as they currently exist are completely toothless and incapable of keeping guns out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them. Most of the conversation between you and me has been about how you think more gun laws are needed. I saw adding more laws won't change anything. I think this proves my point more than yours. If it is illegal, but happened anyways, then what are you planing to outlaw here that would have changed something? I don't believe you have ever answered this, after being asked repeatedly by myself and others. It was illegal for him to get a gun. So tell me what law you are going to add that is going to make it so illegal, that he would have obeyed the gun laws while killing people?

***Five pistols and one rifle were found at the college, where the shooter died Thursday after a gunbattle with police, Nunez told reporters. Police searched his apartment and found two pistols, four rifles and a shotgun, she said. All the guns were legally obtained by the shooter or family members over the last three years through a federally licensed firearms dealer Something is wrong with this picture. He is under 21, ... Incorrect. He is (was) 26. Ok, then move pistols next to comment about rifle. Keep everything about failing background checks and straw purchases

Al Qada terror training camp. Bunch of guys sitting around listening to Marlyn Manson while playing Flight Simulator 98

I think no one should experience that. That was ultimately why I chose the medical retirement. I'm fully capable physically. I just didn't feel like I was the right person for the job anymore. Kind of lost the taste for it.

***Five pistols and one rifle were found at the college, where the shooter died Thursday after a gunbattle with police, Nunez told reporters. Police searched his apartment and found two pistols, four rifles and a shotgun, she said. All the guns were legally obtained by the shooter or family members over the last three years through a federally licensed firearms dealer Something is wrong with this picture. He is under 21, so he cannot legally purchase a pistol. If a family member legally purchased it under their name and gave it to him, it is called a straw purchase and is a felony. With a history of mental illness or any psychiatric treatment, he could not have passed a background check for the rifle. Again straw purchase. This is semantics used to convince people that gun control is the answer. The guns were all legally purchased AND THEN ILLEGALLY GIVEN TO HIM. Charge the responsible family member with the felony straw purchase and tack on manslaughter.

Kent State disproves that one So we should persecute all military members because of the mistakes of a select few? Kind of like what we are doing to our LEOs right now. How many of the LEO's who are some of the problem children to their departments learned their craft in the military and forgot a lot of their humanity by their experiences. I don't think those type of experiences have that effect. I would argue the contrary, that experiencing those event give you a better appreciation for humanity.

Kent State disproves that one So we should persecute all military members because of the mistakes of a select few? Kind of like what we are doing to our LEOs right now.

My father was National Guard out of Fort Ord. Was sent to riots in Los Angeles and demonstrations in Berkley. Never had to engage, but he says the hippies got a whole lot more nervous when they affixed bayonets. Soldiers are generally not trained for crowd control. I got a small taste of it in Kosovo in 2000. It's like Mr. Miyagi says, "It's easier to fight than it is to prevent a fight". In another country there is a cultural and language barier that gives you some psychological distance from the crowd. I imagine it would be much more difficult to perform those duties in the face of a crowd consisting of your own community.

I'm tapping out. Swing away. And if you're scared to say it you can pm me and I won't repost it.

Absolutely agreed. I want that more than anything. I want to find a way to fight the crime, but it is also because of these people that these arguments take place. I am all for a plan that accomplishes that. My fight is with additional restrictions, that serve no purpose.

"I am an American citizen. Just as you are. But I am not only an American citizen. I am German, also. I have nothing but disdain for the USeless Army. And American foreign politics. I see you list Monroe, GA. Been there many times. Skydiving. I am in ATL. Peace out, bro'. And learn." From my new buddy MPOL. Call me out and the send me a private message like a little troll. Man up pussy.