Skyrad

I think its good news that the US has decided to turn to the UN to help move the move to goverment forwards but I'm hearing on the news over here that the talks between Sadr and the US forces outside Najaff are quote 'broken down and at a dead end' which is a very worrying development. Also Falluja may be relativly quiet but its fighters have been able to move out in force to ambush the US forces elsewhere reportedly killing five US Marines. 'According to Marine intelligence, nearly 300 Iraqi mujahedeen fighters from the Fallujah and Ramadi areas, some 150 miles to the east, launched the offensive in an outpost near Husaybah. ' http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040418/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_13 But I hope you are right and things will change for the better. Unfortunatly the Sadr situation is on a knife edge and if the US troops enter Najaff to capture Sadr, I think it will turn very bad. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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'Once again, you demonstrate “not taking the whole issue into perspective.”' I'm sorry you take offence. But I have to disagree with you. I don't think that it was a success, so looking at the whole issue this is why I dissagree. The Taliban is still there and returning in strength. The security situation is terrible, outside of Kabul the Warlords and Taliban run the country, even in Kabul the situation is unsafe to say the least. The training facilities have been largely destroyed, I'll give you that. However Al Quieda has not been destroyed or incapacitated, and if anything has increased support and activity since the invasion. As far as destroying their base of operations, they've simply moved to a new base. Womens rights may have been given on paper but the reality is nothing has changed for the overwealming majority of the female population. Opium production that had been stamped on by the Taleban (No I don't support the Taliban in any way) has now increased and is the countries largest export with a value of $2B per annum. This years crop is up 20% on last years. Over a million displaced persons living and dying in refugee camps still. Its hard to see how this is a success story.. Oh, and I don't watch CNN www.iwpr.net/index.pl?archive/arr/arr_200404_113_1_eng.txt www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket%2FXcelerate%2FShowPage&c=Page&cid=1007029390590&a=KCountryAdvice&aid=1013618385513 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3604533.stm www.swissinfo.org/sen/Swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=4869358 www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/a/2004/04/16/MNGQN668FP1.DTL http://observer.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1501,1056386,00.html http://observer.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1501,1086409,00.html http://observer.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1501,962936,00.html http://observer.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1501,1106732,00.html When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

'I don’t really feel the need to respond to most of these ludicrous reasons because I feel that they appear as such to most people already. I do take offense to the “Afghanistan was a failure” quote, however. Once again, you demonstrate “not taking the whole issue into perspective.” No, we don’t have UBL. We have eliminated the “headquarters” of Al-Qaida, however, and that is extremely important. We’ve capture or killed most of their command structure. We’ve got them on the run and are denying them open mobility and operations in the region. We’re also fighting them over there and not here (i.e. took the fight to the enemy). We’ve also got Afghanistan on the way to becoming a functioning democratic society. I’d call those major successes!' Errrr.......right, you keep on beliving that When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

LOL......... When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

'You say that as if the whole thing was a mistake and that we have to pursue damage control to make up for it. Over half of the American public disagrees with you and we think it was, in fact, necessary for many reasons other than WMD. Not to look at ALL the details/reasons is not to take the whole problem in perspective. The Democrats use “WMD” alone to drive their agenda into the minds of the uneducated masses. ' Sure theres the 'He's a nasty tyrant who kills his own people argument' But so is the President of Uzbekistan and the President of Kazakstan as well, and they're in the coalition. Then theres the 'He was in leauge with OBL' propagander which is simply untrue but yet belived to be a fact by the majority of the US. In fact being honest the best reasons to go to war with him was A) for the buissness that would be generated by the reconstruction. B) Because the 'war on terror' was going no where as far as US results went. C) The US economy was trundeling down a hill. D) Afghanistan was a failure. OBL still uncaptured, Muller Omar still out there, AL Quieda has stepped up attacks world wide and is still operational. It was a good diversion from that. E) He tried to kill my Pa! And I'm not even going to mention the oil...... When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

'Being associated with a terrorist doesn't necessarily mean you are a criminal.' Not for much longer! "HEY JOHN, CHECK THIS OUT!!! " www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0%2C12780%2C1189863%2C00.html When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Yea, I'm sure he's filling his pants When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Skyrad... Why don't you share your background with everyone.. Where you are from, ethnicity, war experience.. Maybe then come people will understand your stance on things. Rhino Most of what you're asking is a matter of DZ record, if it really interests you so much do a search. As for my stance on things, its pretty simple really. I was against going to war on the pretext of the removal of WMD's, with no exit stratagy post war. That as is now proving was a stupidly ill concived idea. I accept that now the troops are on the ground the mess that has been created needs to be resolved before anyone goes home. I feel that the American troops that were sent were ill prepared for the job they now find themselves in. Instead of working on a hearts and mind approach to nation building the US military has adopted a confrontational stance and is using disproportionate use of force without due regard for non combatants. I don't think that this will help keep Americans alive in long run and has done much to destroy residual goodwill among the Shia population of Iraq. Sadr has risen from a junior cleric to someone of status. He was counting on a disproportionate response and he got one. Still most educated Shia are not siding with him but that can all change quickly if the powers that be don't stop letting Sadr keep calling the shots. All it will take to screw up totaly is for the 2500 US troops to go into Najaf and try to arrest him. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Interesting. A coward and a idiot, thats pretty harsh. OK so I think the Import Export pic is pretty tacky but what he said is fair comment. How many Noncombantants have died? How many more Americans will die? I fully realise that now this mess has been made the coalition (or at least the US and the UK) have to stay and clear it up, to not to is simply not an option at this point. But Tinfoil is asking relevent questions. Pictures of flag drapped coffins may be unpleasent but its the simple human cost of this war. I think it does more of a diservice to fly the fallen out through Ramstien in the dead of the night like something to be hidden and ashamed of. If you're prepared to pay the price then why hide the currency? I wonder if Tinfoil isn't right, maybe the American public is more sensitive about paying that price than its willing to admit. Attacks like yours on Tinfoil reinforce that suspicion. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

www.spy.org.uk/n-mandrake.htm www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld199900/ldbills/061/2000061.htm http://tash.gn.apc.org/face_rec.htm www.rgnetworks.co.uk/numberplate1.html www.spy.org.uk/atpc.htm www.iwar.org.uk/sigint/resources/stoa/stoa-atpc-so.htm www.londontransport.co.uk/tfl/cc_fact_sheet_enforcement.shtml www.guardian.co.uk/print/0%2C3858%2C4601963-103630%2C00.html www.cndyorks.gn.apc.org/mhs/index.htm www.guardian.co.uk/bigbrother/privacy/ Woohoo! Made my first clicky! Beer! Woohoo! made my first ! I'm going to be rat arsed at this rate! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Non combatant. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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Halal Big Macs??? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

John! John?....................Where'd he go? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

'I hate Tea I Fucking Hate Cricket She 's not my Queen And I prefer a nice cold Stella to the warm cloudy stuff they try to pass off as beer down here.' Now you can see why they wrote the second verse of the national anthem. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

'The older I get the thicker the sweatshirts I wear and my arm goes numb when I lie on it.' Then what do you do?? Eh? Feels like someone elses hand then eh? eh? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

'The Israelis have just started that tactic....Seems like when you get desperate, you have to do desperate things. ' And America has started using Israils rules of engagement in Iraq. Desperate eh? Interesting..... When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

John, John John..................LOL You don't get I do you? Do you think that that is the limit of the survellance over here? Have you heard about MANDRAKE? or ECHELON? Mandrake is a neural network based product which provides an ability to recognise faces by comparing templates. The system can take into account variations of head orientation, lighting conditions, skin colour, spectacles, make-up and earrings, facial expressions, facial hair and ageing. In a secure access environment, for example, no special skills are needed to compare faces if a face recognition system fails, unlike all other specialist scanning systems. Facial recognition is also the only biometric technique which can be applied covertly. A 'gallery' if images can then be displayed of the ‘top ten’ by confidence factor. Mandrake has many applications for Law and Order, Access Control, CCTV Monitoring and other security systems Mandrake is up and running in Britan and has been for years they're using on our streets John. ECHELON listens and filters ALL our phone calls every single one John! And our Security Service checks ALL our E mails as well John! And still thats just the tip of the Iceberg! Want to see how far the rabbit hole goes John???? http://www.spy.org.uk/n-mandrake.htm http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld199900/ldbills/061/2000061.htm http://tash.gn.apc.org/face_rec.htm http://www.rgnetworks.co.uk/numberplate1.html http://www.spy.org.uk/atpc.htm http://www.iwar.org.uk/sigint/resources/stoa/stoa-atpc-so.htm http://www.londontransport.co.uk/tfl/cc_fact_sheet_enforcement.shtml http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0%2C3858%2C4601963-103630%2C00.html http://www.cndyorks.gn.apc.org/mhs/index.htm http://www.guardian.co.uk/bigbrother/privacy/ And guess what John? We don't even care! We just want to be able to drink our tea John. Its true, drink our tea while watching cricket under a framed picture of HER BRITANIC MAJESTY looking down upon us from the wall, God Bless her, as we slurp our tea and warm beer through our crooked yellow teeth and reminise about the days when we were allowed to keep grandads souviner Luger under our pillows to shoot burglars with. I've got to stop now John, I've gone all misty eyed at the memorys.............I'm all choked up John, I really am.......i'm off to sweep a chimney Guv'ner x When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

'The fighting has already been difficult. Aside from at least 87 U.S. soldiers, about 880 Iraqis have been killed this month — including more than 600 Iraqis — mostly civilians — in Fallujah, according to the city hospital’s director.' When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Darrius, don't worry. If that happens pm Kennedy, I'm sure between him and JohnRich they can find a good attorney thats on the NRAs books and stop them from kicking down your door and make sure no one disarms you mate When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

'The IRA kept the English Army busy for years.' True, we were stupid and didn't realise that to defeat the IRA it would have been perfectly acceptable to use Lynx attack hellicopters to blow the falls road to pieces and tanks and artillary to take out terrorist bases in residential areas. If we'd have done that then no doubt we would have had hundered's of dead terrorists too. (Sure most of them would have been women and children but hey, no doubt they were all terrorists too) When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

This is true, but unfortunatly technology is only as precise as the hands that control it. I think its also worth mentioning that people from 33 countries died in the WTC, including hundreds from the UK. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Sounds great. But as for the baton thing, why would anyone want to walk about with a baton in their pocket? As defence against an illegal handgun? Either everyone legaly carries a weapon or no one does. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

SEVENTY FOUR American soldiers killed in Iraq in the past TWELVE DAYS! We're hearing in the media all about how the fragile cease fire is holding in Falluja but what about else where in Iraq? The amount of positive spin being put on the cease fire is covering up the reality of the casulties in Iraq. These figures are just the dead not in injured. So whats been happening in Iraq just in the last two days alone? 04/12/04 Reuters: One U.S. Soldier Killed North of Baghdad One U.S. soldier was killed and four were wounded when their patrol was attacked near Samarra, north of the capital, Baghdad, the U.S. military said in a statement Monday 04/12/04 cjtf7: Task Force First Armored Division Soldier Dies A Task Force 1st Armored Division Soldier died April 11 as a result of wounds sustained during an improvised device attack in Baghdad around 11:45 p.m. the previous day. 04/12/04 cjtf7: Task Force First Armored Division Soldier Killed A Task force First Armored Division soldier died when a U.S. Army convoy came under attack in downtown Baghdad around 11:30 p.m. April 10th 04/12/04 cjtf7: 1st Infantry Division Soldier Killed One First Infantry Division Soldier was killed and one was wounded when 15 anti-Coalition insurgents attacked a reconnaissance patrol near Khalis at about 3 a.m. April 10 04/12/04 cjtf7: One Task Force Danger Soldier - 4/9 One Task Force Danger Soldier and an Iraqi Civil Defense Corps soldier were killed in separate attacks April 04/12/04 WSFA: Mississippi Man Taken Hostage in Iraq It's a tense wait for relatives of the Mississippi truck driver who's been taken hostage in Iraq. The deadline set by his captors has passed and there's no word on the fate of Thomas Hamill. 04/12/04 AP: Three U.S. Marines killed in fighting in Iraq Three U.S. Marines were killed in fighting in western Iraq, the military said Monday in a statement. 04/11/04 BBC: Iraqi troops reject Falluja duty A senior US military officer in Iraq has said that a battalion of the new Iraqi army refused to support US forces in the town of Falluja 04/11/04 AFP: China confirms seven citizens kidnapped in Iraq The Chinese government has confirmed seven of its citizens have been kidnapped in Iraq and called for their immediate release. 04/11/04 AP: Explosions occur in compound of U.S.-led coalition headquarters Three loud explosions occurred Monday in a large compound in central Baghdad that houses the headquarters of the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq. 04/11/04 AFP: 2 US soldiers confirmed missing Military spokesman Justin McCue said: "There are two soldiers missing as a result of an attack on the convoy today ... the attack occured right around Baghdad International Airport." 04/11/04 AP: UK Man Missing In Iraq Alive, With Coalition A British man reported missing in Iraq is safe and well and in the hands of coalition forces, Britain's Foreign Office said Sunday. 04/11/04 Reuters: Al Jazeera airs tape of 'two dead US officers' in Iraq More than 600 Iraqis have been killed in fighting in Falluja since U.S. forces launched an offensive against Sunni guerrillas in the town a week ago, the head of the main hospital said on Sunday. 04/11/04 Centcom: Attacks killed eight U.S. service members April 9 and 10. Three 1st Armored Division soldiers were killed in a coordinated attack at about 8:30 a.m., April 9.... 04/11/04 Reuters: U.S. Soldier Dies After Iraqi Firefight One U.S. soldier died of wounds received in a furious firefight last week with Iraqi insurgents in the town of Baquba, north of Bahgdad, the U.S. military said on Sunday 04/11/04 DOD: Casualties Identified Sgt. Lee D. Todacheene, 29; Petty Officer 3rd Class Fernando A. Mendezaceves, 27; Sgt. 1st Class William W. Labadie Jr., 45 04/11/04 DOD: Casualties Identified Pfc. Christopher D. Mabry, 19; Spc. Jonathan R. Kephart, 2; Spc. Isaac Michael Nieves, 20 04/11/04 DOD: Casualties Identified Sgt. Felix M. Delgreco, 22; Lance Cpl. Levi T Angell, 20; 1st Lt. Joshua M. Palmer, 25; Lance Cpl. Michael B. Wafford, 20; Staff Sgt. William M. Harrell, 30 04/11/04 DOD: Casualties Identified Cpl. Michael R. Speer, 24; Lance Cpl. Elias Torrez III, 21; Cpl. Matthew E. Matula, 20 04/11/04 DPA: Two German security agents reported killed in Iraq The German Foreign Office today declined to comment on a published report that two missing German security agents had been killed by insurgents in Iraq 04/11/04 Reuters: U.S. Apache Shot Down in Iraq, Two Crew Killed The two crew members of a U.S. Apache helicopter were killed when it was shot down in Iraq on Sunday, the U.S. army said. 04/11/04 AP: Post Iraq Sickness Six soldiers who have fallen ill since their return from Iraq said Friday that the Army ignored their complaints about uranium poisoning from U.S. weapons fired during combat 04/11/04 AFP: 4 Iraqis Killed Four Iraqis were killed in clashes with US forces overnight in the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk, a police officer said Sunday. 04/11/04 AFP: Marines wounded in Fallujah clash Two US marines were wounded by sniper fire and an armed Iraqi was killed in a subsequent street clash on Sunday despite the start of a ceasefire in the city of Fallujah, Marine sources said. 04/11/04 Saba: Missing Germans killed in Iraq: report Two German security officers missing in Iraq were killed by Iraqi insurgents, London's Sunday Telegraph reported. 04/11/04 AP: U.S. Helicopter Shot Down in Baghdad Gunmen shot down a U.S. attack helicopter during fighting in western Baghdad on Sunday, and the fate of its two-member crew was unknown. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca