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Well a lot of people have one point that does really make sense. I want to go back and talk to him. I actually want to repeat the level with him until I pass it and only go the DZ closer because it's closer. Thats the ideal...But that... I guess depends on wether or not he is not too pissed at me because I want to tell him that the only I ask is for a clearer plan before we go up and I want to talk to him about what I "felt" was way too much roughness at that time and I am sure it was a safety issue as from what I read I am not supposed to make any movements on the plane unless told to do so". I can see from a lot of the responses here what may get from him. I never wanted to hurt the guy's career and there are people on here inquiring where I am at like the skydiving FBI who I did not tell but I can't delete this stupid profile and I'm not going to leave a guy in a bad way like that. And I have a feeling he will be exactly as some of the ones on here but I can only try. I would rather have myself be completely dumb to him and everyone at that DZ and deal with it. I don't think I'm putting myself in harm's way or anything..i really don't think there was anything personal about it, idk. And he is a very experienced instructor so idk I will see..I am going to tell him what I think. But I already told the DZO so all 3 of us will probably have to talk. It's gonna be very uncomfortable. And whoever said posting on here is keeping a fire going is right.

Well I don't feel like a child nor do I feel like I'm entitled (to a certain degree) but I have work to do and practicing more. Again this image thing too.??? I don't have an image.. I am but a mere student. And even when I do get my license... it will not be much at all compared to some of you. You all are the ones with the images. The ones with all of the experience.

You sure have that right ! I have read the last few pages thinking, "Geez, those instructors sure have to put up with a lot. Not only do they have to care for and be responsible for their students, they have to put up with the whiney, bitchey ones like this, who think their ass should float to the plane on a silk pillow with the AFF-Is blowing them kisses all the way. Get the fuck over yourself and realize what activity you're doing. Maybe you should take up bowling with a team of soft, happy bunnies. Kevin Keenan Where is the "like button"? Wow you're quick aren't you? And great sense of humor :) If I took his advice... I would quit the sport. Not gonna happen.

So, it's true after all; you're looking for confirmation and nothing else will do. OK..I confirm...but believe me, it's not confirming what you're looking for. *shaking head* *rolling eyes* Most everything you've posted here screams "problem child". Not a good way to make friends and influence people. I got a lot of good feedback yes and some harsh but true and I did take it to heart so it was good for me but who wants to be friends with people that are saying things like some of you are? Like "get the fuck over yourself" etc. and problem child, hit the road.. and the list goes on. LOL

Hey it was his words... Answer the goddamn question is what he said and I did....

Meh. If that's your perception of "personal attack" I'm going to approach your perception of "push and shove" with a great deal of skepticism. Well it's a forum term... and no I never made the implication that the JM was attacking me personally. I'm still not gonna give in to anyone who wants me to think I am over reacting to this.. but good luck.

such harsh words, you're stressing her out and she might not perform well, you mean man The dude has 1 jump he doesn't know anything about instructing.

Hahaha.. you don't know me either.. another personal attack funny :) cute.

With some of the egos on this thread, I don't see how I could offend anyone on here or even in real life if they think they know me. I still didn't let anyone on here intimidate me in case you are wondering. I did what I felt was right and I will continue to do so. Even the guy on here that said "answer the god damn question!" I answered it a ways back and he didn't read it. So no.. none of you have scared me either..

My personal life is none of your business. What did you gain out of attacking me personally?? Some sick pleasure?

This thread is becoming ridiculous imo in some ways. I thank you all for the feedback and knowledge you are giving to me.. but trying to intimidate me out of the sport is not going to work. And acting like I am a big wussy isn't either. Or like I'm trying to slander someone. I had a legitimate concern and I was upset. I got some really good feedback and I enjoy the sport a lot.. though very inexperienced. I see where I went wrong, don't feel like I can talk to the skyGod that everyone wants me to. I have learned alot and mainly the biggest thing that one poster put is to stay in the moment no matter what happens.. also that it's ok as a student to at least "try" and get the service you are paying for. That being said.. I got so much already out of the instruction I already had and I have had some great instructors even if they were harsh or whatever.. I actually fly very well in case anyone is interested. Not from my own account.. from my instructor's. But I need a lot of work and I don't intend on quitting because ppl on here want to call me a wussy baby or whatever. If I was, I don't think I would be jumping out of airplanes. So thanks and have fun bashing me all you want. I just can't wait to get in the air again... this weekend actually going to do L3 again and yes at a DZ closer that I already had a connection with and not a sexual one for God sake. Mostly what I think about is getting in the air again. So no... I'm not letting anyone tell me to go down the road, quit or ridicule me out of the sport. If you have that opinion, you have taken me wrong and probably my fault because I posted while I was upset. I don't think this post is productive as trying to intimidate someone out of a the sport because they had a bad experience is not what imo should happen so I hope it gets deleted.

Well I just thank God you are not an instructor. While you're at it, you might want to thank Him for being in the dark on just who it is you're talking to. His whole quote is in the top..

Hahaha!! LOL!! Too funnny...LMAO The instructors I am going to are serious and hard core and extremely detail oriented. I expect to be annoyed, ticked off, whatever by him/them (there are 2 of them) at some point..I was told by a couple of AFF instructors once "AFF makes you feel like you are having a nervous breakdown" I realize that. Yes after 50 jumps I will be able to handle more (I hope).. but right now I am at ppl's mercy before we jump. And so far protocol is really important.. and communication. I would think that would always be really key in jumping. idk I am just learning like I said. And I do plan on going back there to jump after I get my license.. As far as life skills and stress, I am in one of the most high stressed jobs there is. And not without all kinds of annoying people. I will always maintain I should have stopped that particular jump in the OP. If it makes me a bitch to a lot of ppl, then so be it. idk I don't care. I will be alive at least. I never expect everyone to agree with me either. And am glad to have different opinions of the situation.

Well I just thank God you are not an instructor.

I'm not going back over the events nor am I going back over why I feel I can't ASK him.. nor am I going to explain why I could have easily NOT survived. Protocol and communication are key to me right now and hopefully throughout the sport. I am the student here right now. I've "at least" had enough training to know we don't just go up and jump out of an airplane and survive.. there is more to it.. alot more.

I did have that chemistry thing with a TM (and he is an instructor too), not my first Tandem, but I'm talking about the DZ I wanted and that I am going to now and he had me do prct's, deploy, turns and flares etc. just a tandem and I spent the whole day out there, and I "wanted" to go back and learn from him but I let a friend talk me into this other DZ which I did have a lot of fun all in all but could have killed myself on that jump with some things I did and didn't do and I was really mad and I still feel I had every right to be. But I know this gut feeling chemistry thing ppl are talking about and I have it with this other JM already at the other DZ that is closer and I'm glad I can progress from where I am at and not have to start all over again. And it's not a female male thing.. it's just that I want to learn from him. And no, not every DZ does what occurred with me.. if they do.. they are jacking up their students safety. And I know they don't do that or want that. Well I hope not. I know dudes that more afraid than I am they won't admit it but they shake like crazy and they are new and no that shouldn't happen to them either.

In another lifetime maybe... I understand what you are saying but it made me so mad I really should have stopped the jump..but most people there would say "take a wild card, it's good for you" Look, he is bitter and this is the way it goes with him.. he talks to you. He asks the questions. I even took my rig off when I got to the ground and was going to walk away I was so pissed, but he started in on me on the radio so I put it back on. Which actually you have to admit is kind of funny to other people seeing it. They had no idea.. why did she do that?? lol who knew? no one because I didn't say anything.. but I shouldn't have jumped that upset. I know better now. And I did and failed to do some major important things on that jump that I already had drilled into me that were not so funny. And I take responsibility for them but I know I was mad and exhilarated and all kinds of things at the same time but pissed as hell right before getting into the exit and when I got to the ground. And still am today as I stated in my OP. Not so much now as I was. And I have a jump scheduled already at a DZ where I had really good vibes from the guy and wanted to learn from him and it was a gut feeling or a chemistry thing and instead I let a friend talk me into a dif. DZ. So alls well I will continue with training.

LMAO... That was funny... I mean in an odd way but hey I laughed today for the first time LOL!

"you may cry about how rude I have been to you" ^ to the poster Ron, Nothing at all you have said has made me feel like you are rude or like crying. I think you are just not used to people talking about stuff and maybe expect all students to take whatever.. but if you really want to make me "feel" like crying, before our exit procedure begins, start shoving me around and yes then you will succeed making me "feel like crying" because I would be so mad at you unless, of course, I did something you already told me not to do OR you told me what to do and I did something totally different. Then I would be mad at myself and not you. That's silly to think I would cry because you "think" you are being rude.

Well I appreciate the feedback and I know there r a lot of ppl who r jerks just like in life...I just ask to be on the same page with my 2 JM's b4 I am about to risk my life. Im not going to do just tandem either. And I never expected everyone to like me . Its also a good lesson to notice how some women become hotshots and forget they had 2 start somewhere. Im not gonna do that.

^Well I am doing everything and continue to plan on doing what my instructors say and I know to ask questions and I am very fortunate to have the experience to learn to skydive where ever I am at, so those kind of statements aren't helpful. They don't really tell me anything. I can't jump more right now. I am on levels. I can only jump as I progress.

forums are for discussing issues..i am not hurting anyone on here or myself and keep on telling me to move on..I am to another DZ and u can take that and learn why students do it... I will jump my butt off and a more positive place and nothing wrong with talking about it

Its not like Wall Mart..a DZ I am paying a lot of money for Instruction that imo should be posistive...hit me on the helmet..slap my hand..do what u need to when Im in the air but all of u that think u can push me around in a plane before an exit my 3rd level and be a jerk on top of it clearly just like to fight as well as skydive. I am switching DZ's positive vibes at the other one and its closer and I wont have to scrap with an instrutor...will make my training funner..Im not in the army where I have to put up with iit grit through it and Im paying alot of money for this. Its supposed to be fun...somewhat yes anyway

^5,000 jumps and 18 yrs into it..I'm sure u can take any wild card..is that the goal on level 3 AFF?

I remember everything jerk JM said to me before the dive, in the plane and after.. I was nervous but NO he did NOT go over inside airplane movement. Neither did they on Jump #2. On L1 and L2, I just followed suit of JM#1 and that is how I thought it went.