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What all these guys are saying about CO as well as this: COhb has a half-life of around 5 hours in your blood in normal air. I believe the work that resulted in this figure is Archives of Environmental Health. 1970 Aug;21(2):165-71. Absorption and elimination of carbon monoxide by inactive young men. Peterson JE, Stewart RD. tho it doesn't seem to be available for free online. more references on the subject than I have time to wade through. IOW, it takes many hours for the effects of CO to go away after you're exposed. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

I began to understand this when a reporter on the radio commented that he personally had more years of education under his belt than the 3 most senior figures in the House of Saud combined. Doh! nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

It occurs to me that all those "me too" messages to threads like the WFFC attendence list could be handled differently. Doesn't have to be D-Vite but maybe just a signup type post where people can add and subtract their own names from a list and only one copy gets kept in the server. Just a thought. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

FWIW. I get the feeling that this job posting from their website is representative Establish and maintain a website, office automation tools, wow, could they make it sound any more exciting? nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

And on the other hand we have the Oil Embargo of the 70's. It unequivocally demonstrated that supply cannot be discounted. Amen, the failures of OPEC are many, and not just from the standpoint of a consumer. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

http://snopes.com/science/stats/thinksex.htm nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

This is an environment in which the only authorities are self-declared and armed with good intentions. Skydiving advice is not cops and robbers, no matter how righteous one may feel. Curiousity is essential human nature, in my book anyway. Differentiating the BS from the quality material is exactly the hard part without Reason. Experience can help or it can backfire. edit: and, it makes for a lot of the excitement. To n00bs that is. Now we're back to risk preferences. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

I didn't know that Chicagoland Skydiving Center offered IT support.... oh, nm nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

To be true a statement must be valid. Self-contradictions like this are not valid and therefore not true--true and false are not the only options. It takes more than satisfying the rules of grammar to construct a valid statement. I'm not advocating blanket rejection, I'm advocating the rejection of blanket acceptance, and I'm advocating understanding when someone rejects what otherwise could pass as good advice if it had proper foundations; to help people such as Ron answer the question that spawned this thread. I think 100-300 jumps is when people start realizing there's shaky foundations to most of the advice out there and start exploring the possibilities. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

Of all things, an article on female bullfighters. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

But you have not heard any valid explanation of why it works, because it doesn't. Any proof that it works either has invalid premises or bad logic. A well-formed statement cannot be simultaneously true and not true, this is intrinsic. Aha, but you knew another theory according to which your altimeter and stopwatch could be used to validate this pilot's hypothesis! If only the ordinary theory of kinematics could be used to solve problems like riser stowage, nose rolling, bagging, &c. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

It's a Faustian bargain. That same advice that does not have reason may also kill you one day. Whereas advice that carries the seal of reason will probably not. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

I contend that we don't truly know whether it works or not without the theory to back it up. Doesn't mean we shouldn't heed it, just that we need to hold it in question; recognize it as such and present it as such. So would you oppose deriving theory in an attempt to validate such practical advice? nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

Why does nobody refer to it when suggesting to roll the nose or do this that or the other to the canopy immediately prior to bagging it? That is, all those little tweaks that aren't part of the standardized PRO pack. Where is the part that justifies all this weirdness? I'm not asking for page references, I'm asking why people don't bring the subject of this work up when offering advice. I don't mean to criticize the reference you provided, but you see, we're not exchanging skydiving advice here. It's more important to cite that book or its results in support of a deduction than it is to simply declare its existence here. I believe Dr. Kallend's premises--3 second reaction time, ordinary physics, etc--and his deductions are sound. The DZO presented no premises, and he did not proclaim any deduction. There is no reason to believe the DZO at all. His statements are demonstrably false, tho it didn't take billvon's mounted camera to convince me of their falsity. Had I received his advice before learning of Dr Kallend's work or billvon's video, I may have entertained DZO at the door instead of immediately challenging him and delaying our exit, but I would have noted the question for further investigation. nathaniel edited for grammar... My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

Well, if you can get into an O/S to get started I'd recommend using jigdo to download debian iso's. All you need is disc 1 and from there you can do a network install of the software you want over teh intarnet. http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ Use the testing images, I just tried them on a lab machine at work and they're very easy to use and had a lot of neato features like support for RAID and exotic native filesystems like jfs and xfs. ymmv. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

Examples are everywhere, about the only notable exception I can think of is Dr. Kallend's doctrine of exit separation. An easy example is the 45-degree rule. I overheard a DZO suggesting to a student to use the 45-degree rule. He didn't explain how it would work, and it's obvious to any reader of this board nobody can explain why it would work because it doesn't work. There's a dozen or more examples in all the little tweaks people do when they pack their canopies to improve the opening characteristics. As far as I can tell the business of which tweaks work and which don't is entirely subjective. The advice ebbs and flows and it seems everybody has their own method. And, as far as I know, there's little formal knowledge about the nitty-gritty details of parachute opening. There's no premises, only shaky advice. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

The price fluctuations in the economy as a whole are driven by supply, this is a well studied economic phenomenon. I'm inclined to believe supply of gas/oil has more effect on the price than demand... Does anyone know off the top of their head? nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

It's the definition of premises that in the application of reason they are taken for given. So, I'm really failing to grasp what you are talking about. from AHD: SYLLABICATION: prem·ise PRONUNCIATION: prms NOUN: also prem·iss ( prms) 1. A proposition upon which an argument is based or from which a conclusion is drawn. 2. Logic a. One of the propositions in a deductive argument. b. Either the major or the minor proposition of a syllogism, from which the conclusion is drawn. edit to add: IOW, to reason about premises you first have to stop taking them as premises. Otherwise it's circular reasoning... Practically all the skydiving advice I've received and overheard didn't come with premises anyway, or begged the question. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

Reason doesn't tell you off the bat whether people have just got their premises wrong... One of the hallmarks of the weakness of skydiving advice is that the premises generally aren't even stated... Fortunately (unfortunately?) we don't get into the gray area of premises most of the time because the reasoning is bad. Reason is the same in every discipline, and the same fallacies have a tendency to keep popping up. You don't need to know much about the particulars of a subject to observe when the rules of logic aren't being strictly obeyed. This is the power of Reason. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

Tell me then, when was the last time you felt the Pythagorean theorem? Do you really suppose astronomers have experienced the conditions on the inside of stars? Right around the dawn of recorded history mankind started building knowledge with logic and reason. This is what's missing from a lot of skydiving advice. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

You'll probably still like it on xbox. IMO the world has never rivalled the 3-tuple (keyboard, mouse, joystick) in terms of control. I have a PS2 and I'm invariably frustrated by the small number of buttons. For large screens / sounds I route the outputs of my PC to my analog equipment... As for hunching over I solved that problem with this I'm hooked on the direct input mapping provided by a mouse. Vector mapping control devices like the analog joysticks on the PS2 controller make me feel nauseous pretty quickly... To each his own, I guess. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

Uhm...no. Those won't grow back. When my cat gets bitey I put her in the shower and turn on the cold water. I read it on a message board, maybe this one...it helps her get her priorities straight. Don't have to go all the way as turning on the cold water, just carrying her to the tub is usually enough now that she knows what the treatment is all about . nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

go with morrowind on pc, the xbox version has a few annoying bugs from what i've read. and the 3rd party plugins for pc make a big difference in reducing the nuisance factor. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

For $5 you can go down to a pet store and get a pair of kitty nail clippers. Takes off the sharp points, but they'll grow back in a week or two. nathaniel My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

OK, I'll bite. People that don't know any better, don't know any better. Teaching is a discipline too. The direct way of approaching people and telling them what you think they need to know or do happens to be a poorly effective methods of teaching. I'm not a teacher, but I know that one of the things that teaching does is it reveals the gaps in the teacher's own knowledge pretty quickly. I think we've seen a lot of that on this board. Most of the advice given from jumper of experience X to jumper of experience Y