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Pops......... I defended nothing..... I apologized for nothing. I believe that Anarchists and protestors should be held the same standards as any other citizen. That was the thrust of my original post and nothing more. That I mentioned the reality of flash light therapy seemingly started a firestorm of anti cop posts. I am not an apologist for the fuzz. They can do their own lifting. No that would be anti-sadistic power tripping cops administering justice posting... there IS a difference I do not understand anti-sadistic in the context which you use it. http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+anti-&qpvt=definition+of+anti&FORM=DTPDIA anti- Definition anti-prefix 1. against: against or preventing "anticlerical" "anticoagulant" 2. opposite: opposite "anticlimax" "antiparticle" [ Via Latin < Greek anti "opposite, against" ] " anti sadistic power tripping cops".......??? It seems to me that a power tripping anybody could indeed be prone to sadism. Since I am not a cop, or a sadist, or a power tripping anything, I gotta admit that you have lost me. So I ask you, Why are you placing me in the position of Cop Apologist? I have zero messianic powers. I cannot correct any wrongs. I have, again, simply stated a few of my first person experiences. Allow me ask you this. What are your first person experiences from which you derive you vast knowledge of politics, law enforcement, statistics and so forth? A LONG and interesting life filled with very interesting people.

Pops......... I defended nothing..... I apologized for nothing. I believe that Anarchists and protestors should be held the same standards as any other citizen. That was the thrust of my original post and nothing more. That I mentioned the reality of flash light therapy seemingly started a firestorm of anti cop posts. I am not an apologist for the fuzz. They can do their own lifting. No that would be anti-sadistic power tripping cops administering justice posting... there IS a difference I do not understand anti-sadistic in the context which you use it. http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+anti-&qpvt=definition+of+anti&FORM=DTPDIA anti- Definition anti-prefix 1. against: against or preventing "anticlerical" "anticoagulant" 2. opposite: opposite "anticlimax" "antiparticle" [ Via Latin < Greek anti "opposite, against" ] " anti sadistic power tripping cops".......??? It seems to me that a power tripping anybody could indeed be prone to sadism. Since I am not a cop, or a sadist, or a power tripping anything, I gotta admit that you have lost me. So I ask you, Why are you placing me in the position of Cop Apologist? I have zero messianic powers. I cannot correct any wrongs. I have, again, simply stated a few of my first person experiences. Allow me ask you this. What are your first person experiences from which you derive you vast knowledge of politics, law enforcement, statistics and so forth?

Pops......... I defended nothing..... I apologized for nothing. I believe that Anarchists and protestors should be held the same standards as any other citizen. That was the thrust of my original post and nothing more. That I mentioned the reality of flash light therapy seemingly started a firestorm of anti cop posts. I am not an apologist for the fuzz. They can do their own lifting. No that would be anti-sadistic power tripping cops administering justice posting... there IS a difference I do not understand anti-sadistic in the context which you use it.

Pops......... I defended nothing..... I apologized for nothing. I believe that Anarchists and protestors should be held the same standards as any other citizen. That was the thrust of my original post and nothing more. That I mentioned the reality of flash light therapy seemingly started a firestorm of anti cop posts. I am not an apologist for the fuzz. They can do their own lifting.

My dear, dear lady...... NO COP IN THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN GRANTED THE POWER OF LIFE AND DEATH. I am glad that you finally see the problem cops have with anarchists and Civil Diso's. There is no standard to which the A's and CD's are held, other than those responsibilities of any other citizen. LIKE OBEYING LAWFUL INSTRUCTION FROM AUTHORIZED POLICE OFFICERS. SIMPLE THINGS, LIKE NOT BLOCKING A SIDEWALK, FOR EXAMPLE. How many US Citizens have died at the hands of OUR police in just this millenia so far?? LOLOL...... You're fantastic. They certainly were not killed for blocking sidewalks, now were they? Dead is dead... some where in their homes... some were in their cars... Some... were just too slow to YOU WILL COMPLY I have enjoyed this banter. Thank you for an engaging and interesting discussion.

I am. First snow of the season today. Lucky dog, you are. I love snow sports. I'm stuck here in FL looking for gators from the golf course canals in my pool, for now.

My dear, dear lady...... NO COP IN THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN GRANTED THE POWER OF LIFE AND DEATH. I am glad that you finally see the problem cops have with anarchists and Civil Diso's. There is no standard to which the A's and CD's are held, other than those responsibilities of any other citizen. LIKE OBEYING LAWFUL INSTRUCTION FROM AUTHORIZED POLICE OFFICERS. SIMPLE THINGS, LIKE NOT BLOCKING A SIDEWALK, FOR EXAMPLE. How many US Citizens have died at the hands of OUR police in just this millenia so far?? LOLOL...... You're fantastic. They certainly were not killed for blocking sidewalks, now were they?

Wow...... That's an unusually broad statement from an intelligent woman. You sure you haven't been watching too many movies? Again, I am not a cop, but I do realize that cops generally wear a uniform, and are easy marks for revenge. Real world cops tend to expose the nut cases they work with, from what my cop friends tell me. Perhaps your statement can and should be extended to the anarchist types who "get off" on the rush of civil disobedience and flaunting the law. After all, I am unaware of any formal training for anarchists, while licensed cops are indeed given a form of basic training to insulate local government from a proximate liability should a cop "go off". What do you think? Training for Anarchists; Crapping in the park 101 Dumpster burning 101 How to recognize body lice 101 Panhandling 101 Pepper Spray and You 101 and so forth.......... No Not all uniforms are filled with those of the same mental capacity or needs. That's a truism everywhere and in every walk of life. Even with anarchists and civil disobedience-ers, too. Last I checked those people were not government employees that are supposed to be held to a higher standard of professional behavior. We the people endow those professionals with terrible powers such as life and death of our fellow citizens. My dear, dear lady...... NO COP IN THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN GRANTED THE POWER OF LIFE AND DEATH. I am glad that you finally see the problem cops have with anarchists and Civil Diso's. There is no standard to which the A's and CD's are held, other than those responsibilities of any other citizen. LIKE OBEYING LAWFUL INSTRUCTION FROM AUTHORIZED POLICE OFFICERS. SIMPLE THINGS, LIKE NOT BLOCKING A SIDEWALK, FOR EXAMPLE.

Wow...... That's an unusually broad statement from an intelligent woman. You sure you haven't been watching too many movies? Again, I am not a cop, but I do realize that cops generally wear a uniform, and are easy marks for revenge. Real world cops tend to expose the nut cases they work with, from what my cop friends tell me. Perhaps your statement can and should be extended to the anarchist types who "get off" on the rush of civil disobedience and flaunting the law. After all, I am unaware of any formal training for anarchists, while licensed cops are indeed given a form of basic training to insulate local government from a proximate liability should a cop "go off". What do you think? Training for Anarchists; Crapping in the park 101 Dumpster burning 101 How to recognize body lice 101 Panhandling 101 Pepper Spray and You 101 and so forth.......... No Not all uniforms are filled with those of the same mental capacity or needs. That's a truism everywhere and in every walk of life. Even with anarchists and civil disobedience-ers, too.

Wow...... That's an unusually broad statement from an intelligent woman. You sure you haven't been watching too many movies? Again, I am not a cop, but I do realize that cops generally wear a uniform, and are easy marks for revenge. Real world cops tend to expose the nut cases they work with, from what my cop friends tell me. Perhaps your statement can and should be extended to the anarchist types who "get off" on the rush of civil disobedience and flaunting the law. After all, I am unaware of any formal training for anarchists, while licensed cops are indeed given a form of basic training to insulate local government from a proximate liability should a cop "go off". What do you think? Training for Anarchists; Crapping in the park 101 Dumpster burning 101 How to recognize body lice 101 Panhandling 101 Pepper Spray and You 101 and so forth..........

I am not about to reveal how I know these things. It will just have to stand as an unsupported allegation. Kool.... Are you still in Toronto? Last time there, I took a 5 day sled safari. Great fun, but the intense cold was a serious jolt to my Florida impaired constitution.

DA...... Lefty's don't trust the Judicial System. It's owned by "the Man" Even though that's where they run, forum shopping, to achieve their social agenda.

What about... "You will be assimilated."...? Has anyone in this thread actually had any first person experience with a real protest? The ones that I'm familiar with, the standard the cops used was "keep moving". Of the four "actions" I was associated with no one went looking for a confrontation with the cops. There were zero arrests. The cops simply did not care what the protest was about as long as the publics' right to access was uninterrupted. It would appear that the UC protestors wanted a publicity laden confrontation. The UC cops did their job. Perhaps there are alternatives to the cops action, but so far, no one posting here was there and can say for sure. The police must have contingency plans for these type of events. Cops carry guns for their own protection, not to shoot down crooks. All the cops I know want nothing more than a quiet day. Having stated that, I also admit that every now and again some career hooligan gets a dose of flashlight therapy to correct his thought process. But that's for another thread.......... Are you ok with the escalating tendency for that to spill over to those who are not "career hooligans"? Is a little collateral damage ok in your book when there is bad intel from a CI "career hooligan" that gets innocent people killed? Please reread my post....... I didn't say I was OK with anything. I simply recognize that it duz happen. I am unaware of the escalating tendency you cite. Do you have a reference? Use of force by Law Enforcement is an unending agenda matter for Courts nationally, and has been for a great many decades. Nuttin' new there. Please don't ask for citations. I am not the fuzz. I have no source for criminal intell. Innocent people do die every day the world over, and I not OK with that either. I must admit that your point eludes me. Please respond. How many of these do we as a nation need?? http://abcnews.go.com/US/tucson-swat-team-defends-shooting-iraq-marine-veteran/story?id=13640112 OOOPs just collateral damage in the war on drugs.... is not a good excuse. Then again there are things like this. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/17/aiyana-jones-7-year-old-s_n_578246.html Agreed... Tragedies, indeed. However, I don't make the nexus between an organized group blocking a sidewalk at UC and defying lawful police direction, to the so very dangerous tactic of police entering a dwelling where drugs and /or weapons are suspected. Or is it that we are no longer on the UC topic If so, then I will not be placed in the position of apologist for every single incident of police behavior. That was not my original post nor my intent. I offered a for real first person narrative of real events I have personally been involved in. Compare and contrast to the UC incident as you wish, but please stay on topic for clarity sake.

Issue is that it is more than just now and again, and not only career criminals. OK...... Lets hear your story. I am not a cop, BTW.

What about... "You will be assimilated."...? Has anyone in this thread actually had any first person experience with a real protest? The ones that I'm familiar with, the standard the cops used was "keep moving". Of the four "actions" I was associated with no one went looking for a confrontation with the cops. There were zero arrests. The cops simply did not care what the protest was about as long as the publics' right to access was uninterrupted. It would appear that the UC protestors wanted a publicity laden confrontation. The UC cops did their job. Perhaps there are alternatives to the cops action, but so far, no one posting here was there and can say for sure. The police must have contingency plans for these type of events. Cops carry guns for their own protection, not to shoot down crooks. All the cops I know want nothing more than a quiet day. Having stated that, I also admit that every now and again some career hooligan gets a dose of flashlight therapy to correct his thought process. But that's for another thread.......... Are you ok with the escalating tendency for that to spill over to those who are not "career hooligans"? Is a little collateral damage ok in your book when there is bad intel from a CI "career hooligan" that gets innocent people killed? Please reread my post....... I didn't say I was OK with anything. I simply recognize that it duz happen. I am unaware of the escalating tendency you cite. Do you have a reference? Use of force by Law Enforcement is an unending agenda matter for Courts nationally, and has been for a great many decades. Nuttin' new there. Please don't ask for citations. I am not the fuzz. I have no source for criminal intell. Innocent people do die every day the world over, and I not OK with that either. I must admit that your point eludes me. Please respond.

What about... "You will be assimilated."...? Has anyone in this thread actually had any first person experience with a real protest? The ones that I'm familiar with, the standard the cops used was "keep moving". Of the four "actions" I was associated with no one went looking for a confrontation with the cops. There were zero arrests. The cops simply did not care what the protest was about as long as the publics' right to access was uninterrupted. It would appear that the UC protestors wanted a publicity laden confrontation. The UC cops did their job. Perhaps there are alternatives to the cops action, but so far, no one posting here was there and can say for sure. The police must have contingency plans for these type of events. Cops carry guns for their own protection, not to shoot down crooks. All the cops I know want nothing more than a quiet day. Having stated that, I also admit that every now and again some career hooligan gets a dose of flashlight therapy to correct his thought process. But that's for another thread..........

LOL.!! That would appear to be a true-ism!! Great post.

I have no reason to suspect that you are doing anything but attempting to argue with a spambot. EXCELLENT.......! I think we have a winner.!!! Winsor, Winsor, Winsor..!!!!

Take a look at the blast pattern. Looks kinda selective for a compound where the maniacs store munitions, and manufacture rocket fuel.

Who says it was a mistake? A mistake in the same manner of the recent explosion at the Iranian ammo dump/ rocket fuel plant? The incident is still being "investigated".

Search for unconventional weapons and field expedients. That's probably all I should post on this topic.

During WW2 the anti Japanese guerrillas in the Philippines were ingenious as to manufacturing ammo. They used curtain rods as bullets, and match heads as primers. A good study.

1 - Everything in DD world is a result of racism and corporate and individual greed. 2 - War on Drugs is a subset of "Everything" therefore.......... Excellent.......

You must have misread my post. I did not rag on anyone.

Before the boogyman goes to bed he checks his closet for Tim Tebow! But, that really was a WTF defensive call on the TD play. Why on earth would you blitz on the 20 and make Tebow run after Denver just had a 75 yard series, mostly as a result of TT's running efforts? I'd think they would want him to pass since he was