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I love that photo...first saw it on My Cat Hates You. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

I think it's your turn to bring pie. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Oh, dear...as someone who's beginning her sixth month of post-op shoulder rehabilitation, I feel for you. I hope your problem can be fixed without surgery!! When I had an MRI for my shoulder, I also had an arthrogram (basically an x-ray) done. During this procedure, the docs injected a gadolinium (slightly magnetic rare earth metal) solution into my joint to make the contrast on the MRI better, thereby making smaller tears easier to see. Here's an example of a rotator cuff arthrogram: http://www.rctradiology.com/arthrogram.html Also, more info on arthrograms: http://my.webmd.com/hw/sports_and_fitness/hw198411.asp Good luck, and I hope everything turns out better than expected! _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

A lot of staying very still in a very small, confined (and possibly claustrophobic) space if you're going to be in the tube. Also, loud and intermittent jackhammering noises...the earplugs help, but the noise isn't completely blocked out. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Free annual credit reports...sooo glad that this was finally mandated: https://www.annualcreditreport.com/cra/index.jsp _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Married to AndyMan on October 18, 2003. Picture of us in Chicago's Millennium Park attached.

Or you watched the PBS American Experience documentary about The Pill while you were half-asleep. Interesting stuff: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/pill/ _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

This is precisely why I requested my husband to shave his head everyday!

Yeah, damn red tuna meat! It flip-flops to brown in a few days! And did you know that suppliers often treat the tuna meat with carbon monoxide so that it stays red and only appears to be fresh? Tuna is responsible for air pollution, too! _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Maybe "I like sushi" is the new "I like pie"! _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

I don't mind camping out someplace we're driving to, but I object to lugging camping equipment AND skydiving gear for two people on a flight halfway across the country! _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

And that is why Canada is as close to Utopia as it gets... See this thread, too: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1557872#1557872 _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Oh, it looks like ying went to see the show, after all! _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1432442#1432442 _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

http://aveda.aveda.com/stores/locator_mq.asp?Country=USA _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Body Shop is always a good bet...there is an unscented oil as well as a lotion. Their body butters are fantastic, too. http://www.thebodyshop.com/bodyshop/browse/sub_category.jsp?categoryId=cat20077 _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Sorry to hear that! Now I feel guilty because I've been putting off going to the eye doctor for the past few years! _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

For those of you whose NPR affiliates don't pick up Worldview (I don't think many do since it isn't distributed via PRI), you can click into the live streaming audio at 1PM Central here: http://www.chicagopublicradio.org/audio_library/ram/livefeed/livefeed.ram (RealAudio). _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Interesting...what was this about, then? Actually, no, I didn't say that. I think it unlikely that the knowledge gained at the Body Worlds exhibition would be used for such purposes, though. Possible, but unlikely. I wouldn't say one way or the other because I honestly don't know. I haven't taken a random sampling of 100+ people who've been to the exhibit and interviewed them to find out who they are, what they already know, what they do for their professions, why they went, what their experiences were, and what they learned. NEITHER HAVE YOU. You're still making (ridiculous and uninformed) assumptions about the way these exhibition visitors think and act. Well, apparently you are trying to speak for the whole world seeing as how you're bold enough to make these over-generalised assumptions about why most of the people go to see the exhibit. Yes, I have very little patience for people who create assumptions with no basis in fact and are clueless because of self-imposed ignorance. Aforementioned people who wander various forums to "freely express their thoughts" while talking out of their asses are typically referred to as trolls. I've disagreed with a lot of people on this forum, and I haven't called any of them trolls. I still strongly suggest that you get a clue. I believe those things are quite useful in facilitating education when paired with real examples. It does make a huge difference when you have someone or something to guide you in learning, doesn't it? The purpose of the exhibition, in its entirety: bodies, notes, placards and all, is to show you how things authentically look in your body, to teach you what the parts are and how they function. Surely you've heard of Gestalt theory and how it applies to human learning? Realistic 1:1 models would be what you referred to as a "scientific fake," and they will never be equally good. "Realistic" will never equal REAL. If you truly believe "1:1 realistic models" were equally good, would you go to a doctor who learned purely from realistic (but fake) models and textbooks? And why are they "poor" bodies? If they were donated with consent, why do you care? They're dead. It's just flesh and bones. They are no longer sentient beings. "Normally" by whose standards? Are your opinions and thoughts supposed to dictate how everybody else should think and feel when they see something like that? I'm glad for the appreciation, period. I'm happy that the newbie is excited about the sport, and I'm happy that the experienced jumper has recognized my skill. The most important point here is that they both recognize that there is something to be appreciated, and they're not going to ignore or denounce the experience whether they know very little or a lot about skydiving. As far as the "value" of the appreciation is concerned, that can only be opined by the one it's bestowed upon, not the person who gives it, nor the rest of the world who hears it. If both of the viewers were to give advice, that is an entirely different circumstance where knowledge and experience makes an important difference, and the value of the critique can certainly be weighed. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Yah, see my post here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1522164#1522164 _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Yay! Val will be a City Girl! Maybe you'll hang out with us more now. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

??? That's it, I'm officially NOT from Knoxville anymore. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Oh no, there's a whole online museum of them! http://www.zonicweb.net/badalbmcvrs/ This is one of my favourites... http://www.zonicweb.net/badalbmcvrs/poohman.jpg _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Really? Tell me, what would you learn about the decomposition process of a human body if you were to see one in real life? No labels, no placards, no audio tours, no professor, no forensic scientist friend accompanying you. Could you tell me the approximate time of death? Could you tell me why it swells? At what rate do different organs deteriorate? What happens when the body explodes? What's involved in that process? You think you can learn all of that just by looking at a rotting dead body? Wow, you must have supernatural senses or something. So if von Hagen's is offering a scientific fake with real bodies, then what good would looking at anatomy books do? Wouldn't anatomy books be considered even "more" fake? By this argument, shouldn't you be against everything that is an illustration, model, photo, or any type of reproduction which you so readily upheld before? I don't know how many of them have studied biology to the extent that I have. Neither do you. All I can say is that I went to the exhibit with my husband and his parents, none of whom have the extensive biology education that I have. We all went to the exhibit with an open mind to learn something. That's what museums and their exhibits are for. They all found the exhibit extremely enlighting, educational and know that the human body is a beautiful, complex, and intricate work that they will never fully understand (I don't think anybody can). But at least they have a better appreciation and insight than before because they had the opportunity to see the exhibit. Appreciation of something does not require extensive knowledge on the subject--it only requires an open mind. I don't have much education in the way of aerospace and aeronautics, but I certainly have appreciation for the complexities of flight, aircraft design/engineering and development. I've never formally studied an instrument or how to read/play music, but I have great appreciation for all types of music. Until you interview a good number (100+) of random people who've seen the exhibit, you shouldn't make assumptions about why people go to see it, what their experience was, or what they learned. The people I observed were asking great medical questions to the volunteers (many of whom were physicians, nurses and health care students) stationed throughout the exhibit. Teachers and parents were showing their children that the human body is nothing to be afraid of, demystifying the unknown. And all of your tripe about learning to make explosives and how to kill terrorists--the information is readily available (just like anatomy books) if you want to learn about it. If enough people want to learn about it, perhaps they can raise the money and convince a museum to create, curate and display an exhibit on it to make it more accessible. Would it be inappropriate if people donated their bodies specifically for the show, knowing that tons of money would be made on their plastinated bodies? Also, funeral homes, casket makers, crematoriums and cemetaries all make profitable businesses from death of and for the masses. Is that inappropriate, too? I hope you never attend plays, sporting events, concerts, and lectures or ever look at magazines, books, photographs, paintings, movies, television, artwork or any other type of media that show the human body because they are all public exhibit of the human body. I guess you don't go to funerals, either, where often times the deceased is on display. Comparing the education and science in the Body Worlds exhibit to live human torture and experimentation is illogical. ALL of the bodies that von Hagen's has worked on were DEAD. He didn't kill or torture anybody to acquire them. Some he may have gotten without permission from the person (i.e. they were donated anonymously), but who cares? They were DEAD. Nor are we inflicting pain on anyone else by going to an educational exhibit of dissected dead bodies. So you think he gets them from prisons who conduct human torture and experimentation? Until you can prove that von Hagens actively sought to acquire bodies from political prisons, your argument doesn't stand up to much. Clearly you DO need to see something more because you don't have a clue as to what the exhibit shows, how it's displayed, or anything else that is in it. Pictures of the plastinated bodies are no comparison to seeing the exhibit in its entirety--just like looking at pictures in an anatomy book cannot be equivalent to seeing a real body. What you can't grasp is that the purpose of the exhibit is to educate people about human anatomy and their own bodies. All you can comprehend are your ridiculous assumptions about how the rest of the world thinks and acts. The only thing you're capable of is making intellectually mediocre, uninformed, inflammatory statements...otherwise known as trolling. Why don't you stop playing "pretend intellectual polemics," and go out to gain some real world experience. Maybe you'd get a clue while you're out there. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)

Unlikely. Your "new spouse" would get to decide what is done with the $50,000 the family gets. So...I bet if they got a skydiving "dropzone bums" family on the show, they would pair them up with an ultra-high-maintenence mom who will want to spend it all on designer clothes, custom furniture, Prada & Louis Vuitton bags, jewelry, etc. _Pm __ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC)