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How do figure that? Having a licensing requirement wouldn't stop her or anyone else from getting a gun. Criminals and whack-jobs could care less about legal requirements. They'll just work around them through theft or the black market. That doesn't mean that making things harder for them isn't a reasonable goal. Enforcing existing laws might not make it impossible for criminals to get guns--but it'd still be a good start. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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It depends on your goals. If the license was a 50 state CHL/CCW permit, then it would probably help reduce criminal violence by letting more responsible gun owners carry. The real goals, from my point of view, would be creating a nationwide CCW, eliminating waiting periods, and bringing the light of 2nd amendment freedoms to backwaters like California. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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I'm actually not sure that it would have, unless we extended it to include gun rentals (which is is probably a good idea, but which Quade hadn't mentioned). Assuming some sort of mass license system (like Wendy and I have been throwing back and forth), then we'd be able to check licenses, see that the range customer's license had been revoked, and not rent to her. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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The first time I bought a handgun, I had to wait 15 days. Last time I bought one, the wait was about 3 minutes. I think the NICS has been a pretty successful program, both for reducing/eliminating waiting periods and otherwise. Sure, but just because it won't solve all problems doesn't mean it won't help with some problems. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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When? Last summer a friend of mine waited 83 days on a form 1. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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I bet you could get local volunteer instructors, and donations of range time and practice materials. And it would give the NRA a chance to contribute and put their money where their mouth is, so to speak. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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I meant the wait for the ATF to process the form 1 for a SBS/SBR. What if you had a nationwide "CHL" that eliminated that waiting period the way that the state CHL eliminates background check waiting (and other restrictions, in some states, like 30 day purchase caps). -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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Streamline bureaucracy. Eliminate waiting periods. Reduce firearms in the hands of criminals. Reduce improper useage of firearms. Increase gun safety (and education). Reduce state restrictions on licensed owners (for example, allow someone with the federal license to own full capacity mags, even if they live in California). -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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I think that would be an appropriate part of public education. You don't want your kid to be educated on it, you don't put them in public schools. Do kids who didn't get it in school have to show proof of having taken it? Yes. And honestly, I'd envision some kind of opt-out waiver, where parents who had strong moral objections could hold their kids out of that coursework (but the kid would always have the option to take a corresponding class once they reached 18). I'd also picture the course including material on 2nd amendment history and such, and a bit of the driver's ed style "scare 'em straight" stories. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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Texas CHL provides for this. You have a CHL you don't wait and the quick check is done while you wait (called in by your FFL using your DL). SBR/SBS is easy, assuming you meet the qualifications. It'd be easier if your CHL got you out of the waiting. And even better would be if it got you out of filing the form at all, and paying the 200 bucks. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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State Says 2 years and $4M, volunteers do it in 8 days with donations
TomAiello replied to NWFlyer's topic in Speakers Corner
As opposed to the current situation where we have insurance companies in charge of our health care. Do you know what the biggest insurance company in the current US healthcare system is? Hint: They're so big that they basically set all the reimbursement rates and the rest of the insurance companies (and health care providers) basically have to go along with what they say. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com -
State Says 2 years and $4M, volunteers do it in 8 days with donations
TomAiello replied to NWFlyer's topic in Speakers Corner
Well, there's $4 million of stimulus that they won't get. The local economy will be devastated. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com -
Former Mental Patient Kills Son/Self at Gun Range
TomAiello replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
Random aside: Since my last post in this thread I went out and purchased a couple of these. It took a lot less than 10 days. Neener, neener! Now I just need to move to Canada so I can get a Tavor. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com -
Not without attending a gun safety class. What if the gun safety class, administered by the NRA, was a mandatory part of the secondary school curriculum nationwide? -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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Former Mental Patient Kills Son/Self at Gun Range
TomAiello replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
Sure you would. And (Quade's opinions to the contrary) I think that many range owners are thinking about those things. In fact, despite his public comments (necessitated by the litigious nature of our society), I bet that the owner of this particular range is (a) trying to find a way to avoid a recurrence, and (b) feeling pretty awful about this situation. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com -
I'm against blanket licensing. I think the "gun show loophole" business is very overblown. The vast majority of gun show sales are made by FFL dealers, who are required to run the same checks as if the customer walked into a store. That said: How would you feel about a national "gun license" that acted as a CCW permit nationwide, and further allowed the licensee's to own any federally allowed firearms, even if their local jurisdiction had varying rules? I bet you could get some gun owners, especially in California, lining up to support an idea like that. Oh, and you never responded to my ideas in the other thread about re-opening the NFA registry and moving SBR/SBS and suppressors off the list, and about creating a national education initiative run by the NRA. Negotiating is about give and take. What do you think? -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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Former Mental Patient Kills Son/Self at Gun Range
TomAiello replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
Not true at all. I'm a gun enthusiast. I own enough weapons, and of politically incorrect types, that I'm unlikely to ever be allowed to re-settle in my place of birth. I'd suggest you read through my posts in this thread and modify your blanket generalizations a bit. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com -
Former Mental Patient Kills Son/Self at Gun Range
TomAiello replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
The check takes *10 DAYS* in California. And costs more than the range fee. Dude, are you serious? Who the heck would want to live in that place? Seriously, the idea was to use the federal NICS system, not whatever system is used to process local firearm purchases. You could even have California ranges using it--although that might advertise the fact that the bloated and useless 10 day wait you have to suffer through is, in fact, bloated and useless. The NICS checks, as I mentioned, take less than 5 minutes and cost nothing. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com -
Former Mental Patient Kills Son/Self at Gun Range
TomAiello replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
Business practices--not new laws. If there is one thing we should know by now is that unregulated businesses do NOT, as a whole, regulate themselves. Money is almost always the primary concern of any business. I disagree. The problems that (I think) you are referring to are, in my opinion, the result of back-door relationships between government and business. If the government doesn't provide incentives for businesses to do silly things, the businesses themselves are unlikely to do so, and if they do, then they are unlikely to stay in business long (absent a government bail out). -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com -
Former Mental Patient Kills Son/Self at Gun Range
TomAiello replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
Or how about nerf bullets? It'd be super hard (and very expensive) to construct a range where it's impossible to shoot another patron. I'm not sure if Bill had really though through the costs involved (I'm guessing not), because you'd essentially have to create individual ranges for each patron, fully separated from the other patrons, and then lock them in before handing their ammo in through a pass-through system. I think the nerf bullets are probably more practical. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com -
Civil union in which country? I was referring to the U.S., but I don't know how the switch would translate to other countries. I was thinking that you'd have to recognize overseas "marriages" as civil unions for immigration purposes. Either that or force the rest of the world to move to our civil union model--if they refuse to do it, we could just nuke 'em. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com
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Former Mental Patient Kills Son/Self at Gun Range
TomAiello replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
In order for them to really be uniformly adopted, the laws about firearms would have to be uniform throughout the nation. A good example is the CCW issue--in some jurisdictions, it bypasses the background check, and in others it doesn't. With our current system, the best you could hope for is that range owners would adopt reasonable guidelines that took advantage of the available tools in their various jurisdictions. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com -
Former Mental Patient Kills Son/Self at Gun Range
TomAiello replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
Business practices--not new laws. Which is why I put in the disclaimer in that suggestion about not knowing how the FBI would feel about using the system for rentals. Sure, and there's not a whole lot you could do about that. But presumably, the real criminals would find other ways than going to a range to do this. I know I'd prefer the criminals not give Congress yet more excuses to regulate my rights. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com -
Former Mental Patient Kills Son/Self at Gun Range
TomAiello replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in Speakers Corner
Remember that I was talking about what I'd do if I owned a range. I'm not suggesting that we ought to make more laws. In fact, I'd hate to see more laws--and I think that reducing incidents like this will help avoid more pointless laws. Good reason to reform state CCW laws. I've been through the FBI check probably a dozen times. It's never taken more than about 3 minutes. I've done this as late as 11pm Eastern, and on Sundays. How is waiting 3 minutes the first time you go the range (or even every time) going to make things impossible? I can't speak to CA rules, because the last time I had the California card was in the early 90's. But I'm pretty sure the FBI system updates data a lot more often than every few years. Remember, I'm suggesting things that could be done by range owners--not things that ought to be rammed down their throats by the government. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com -
Civil union in which country? -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com