Zenister

"i'm so cool you could keep a side of beef in me for a month..i'm so hip i can barely see over my pelvis..what do you mean you dont know who i am? i'm the ex-president of the universe" ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

indeed, if you read my previous posts i have said exactly that in different words.. however we run into issues as soon as anyone claims "my way and no other" something the christians (among the other monotheisms who have been continually fighting over the 'holy land') are infamous for.. sorry, but 'god' if there is such, cares nothing for the petty arguments of man..or whos dogma you follow to reach him.. "follow the shoe!!!" "No! follow the gourd" "splitters!" ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

if you've upgraded your default security settings that is one of the side effects, you need to go into setting and uncheck that box. also certain firewall software will block images as well...what did you change since the last time it worked? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

other myths claiming to refute previous mythos in no way qualifies as "proof" of anything... i could create stories about 'my' disciples trouncing yours, but that isnt evidence of anything even thousands of years after the fact... claiming 'your prophet' beat 'my prophet' doesnt make it true... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i'd be interested in your 'non-religious' baised sources are discounted for this assertion.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

for example, "witch" and "poisioner" woe to the lives of spinsters thruout history.. also it doesnt refer to ball at all, but 'sphere' as in 'realm' not as in 'circle' ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

And whaddaya mean I don't support your system? I go to court when I have to.... when theres a new way I'll be the first in line.... discussion is not argument, fear of open discussion is often a sign of insecure beliefs ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

Read the Bible.. All the answers you are asking about are in there.. Yes I believe in God.. I talk to him every day.. there are far better places to search for answers than the mythos of one of the most violent culture on earth...places that will not assign you guilt in a cosmic crime as a means of controlling your actions.. you can paint a christian face on divinity, but that in no way means it is the only one she wears... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

Not so! I've done it out of an Otter. indeed we did a double tube out of Kapows otter not long ago...spun like a banshee but we all stayed close when it broke and got several docks in after... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

he didnt but something got a piece of him ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

grrr forum hickuped and my post vanished into the ether.. I really like the way you think Wendy.. there are variations on the theme , but its primarily a family marriage, where each individual agrees (vows) to raise and care for all offspring irrgaurdless of who the mother/father really is...certainly there are issues to overcome, however with rational adults its a very supportive community environment.. there is a good discussion of how this could work in Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and some of the difficulties that can arise in Friday as well as several other accepted social norms that have no real basis beyond religious leftovers... Science Fiction has always been a great medium to examine and challenge accepted social norms and concepts.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

how exactly is that NSFW dave?? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

ive got 7 flights on a GTI now...i was just beginning to get the 'floaty' feeling.. i'd love to try a S3... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

got one thats 6'4? dan took his back...wahhhh and yet i understand why he'd want it near.. somehow i slipped thru the cracks...oh well i'd be at the bottom anyway... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

yes. but it isnt something i can quantify intellectually. Its a feeling, a calm, a peace that brings (has brought me) thru some incredibly difficult times and decisions and allowed me to laugh in the midst of the storm..brings the tiny smile that makes everything else disappear. There are so many ways, so many places and times ive experienced it since the first time (i recognized it, as i examined my life before that moment of 'sartori' i saw it had always been there) its hard to count, and yet its not something i can show you. I cant point at it and say "here. this is god." but... sometimes i can.. contradictory and meaningless, yet there have been moments where i knew someone else with me, near me understood, felt the near electric 'vibe' flowing thru the moment, right here, right now, nothing else compares to this moment...until the next..the next sunrise, sunset, scent of rain on the coming wind, a small smile from a child in a passing car...when i forget it, lose sight of that 'feeling'... life goes astray..often its when i try to hard, to manipulate life around me. (far to easy to do, you can change anything..except other people.)...thus my later intellectual search for zen, for tao, for the religious philosophies that echoed the things i already 'knew'. that i was never separated from god, unless i separated myself... to be in the moment, and experience everything, because each moment only happens just that way, just that once, and if you blink, if your too focused on anything else instead of taking in everything, then you've missed it and you cant have that one back..... its love, fundamentally. reflected in anothers eyes on occasion or felt on the wind as the door opens.....

good just like gold, diamonds have no real value apart from their technological uses... any object is only worth what society agrees it is...the more easily its replicated the less value it has, perhaps one day we'll value unique thought and vision more than simple material items.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

sort of expected that...

looking at the glass in the master monkeys hand and your face in some of those shoots i imagine not many do. cant believe i missed that level of nignoggery...grrrrrrrrr...must've been suckin ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i wouldnt quite say that, but perhaps thrill seekers recognize the joy in doing vs mearly existing... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

cool...my friend (and fencing coach) used to have a J22 (? weak on sailboat types but love the feeling...) we came close to flipping it a couple of times, and since the lake in AL he played on most had nothing in its class to race against. We used to play "pirates" during regattas. I swung over to a little Catalina (maybe cant quite recall) with a sabre in my teeth and demanded "Bread, Beer and Bikini tops!!" ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

one for all!! ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

sooooo How you dooooin ??? need some crew?? i havent been sailing on anything pacificish in 10+ years....hell havent been sailing at all in nearly that long.. mmmmm salmon... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

[replyOK, I've started drinking. Fat Tire Amber Ale. FT is a good one, but i prefer their Blue Paddle... or was that to be paddled blue?? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

well you might have noticed theres not much i wont argue about (from either side) when the mood is apon me. just till the red light came on ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

always been a big fan of the "wonderwoman pose" have an old (girl)friend who does that in nearly every picture for some strange reason... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.