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"If you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no brains".

_______________________________________ I agree , at last count there are 25 post in this thread and none were made by Lucky or Kallend. The silence is deafening . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pUn7ZxvjfI

______________________________________ this was ranked by Mort Zuckerman who has close ties to Obama . yep leave it to you to come up with a rank ranking.

_______________________________________ I provided it, let's see your response. SUMMARY of my post: Many middle class people were pushed to lower class and could not afford the goods they made, esp the higher dollar goods. Many/most farmers were put our in the cold, many/most blacks were thrown well into poverty amongst these supposed glory times. The Roaring 20's weren't roaring for millions, just like the 80's. The 90's, however, were great for most, unemp was down to

______________________________________ It had little to do with Hardinge and nothing to do with Coolidge but rather the Secretary of the Interior Albert b.Fall. http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0848032.html#axzz0wdQ7PZgq Nice try...

High taxes? Taxes are almost as low as they've ever been post-WWI, payroll taxes are nothing compared to other nations. As for vacation, WE nations have to give employees between 4 and 9 weeks per year, so your claim of high cost/regulation is silly. And your claim that we won't be a manufacturing nation again is probably wrong. As soon as the debts becomes unbearable, probably in 10 years, our dollar will fall and we will have to manufacture as teh exchange rate will be too steep to afford Chinese fingercuffs. _____________________________________________ Obviously you have never owned your own business . I have owned 2 and you have no clue about taxes. All you want to do is tax, tax and tax without the consideration of what those taxes mean to a business. So do us all a favor , and go open your own business and then you can come back and tell us all how low they are.

_______________________________________ I asked for proof when you dispute what was written and all you post is the same progressive rhetoric.

__________________________________ drivel ? if you dispute any of this, please post proof. I posted a link to where i got the information from. Essays, Papers, & Addressess Written Under the Auspices of the Calvin Coolidge Memorial Foundation.. http://www.calvin-coolidge.org/html/the_harding_coolidge_prosperit.html

Manufacturing is what provided us with so many high paying blue collar jobs and it also supported so many other businesses . Manufacturing will never come back to this country with the competition of a global economy and the high cost of running a business in this country due to taxes and other fees and regulations.

And how'd that turn out? __________________________________________________ President Harding pushed hard for his program and got it passed by Congress in 1921. By late 1922, the economy began to turn around. Harding did not live to see it, but his normalcy program proved to be the foundation that Coolidge prosperity was built on. Harding's successor, Calvin Coolidge had the wisdom to stay the course and build on Harding's program. The American people were the beneficiaries of the unprecedented prosperity of the 1920's. Unemployment was pared from its high in 1921 of 20% to an average of 3.3% for the remainder of the decade. The misery index which is a combination of unemployment and inflation had its sharpest decline in U.S. history under President Harding. The Gross National Product averaged 7% from 1924 to 1929. Wages, profits, and productivity all made substantial gains during the 1920's. Harding slashed federal spending by two billion from Wilson's last year and Coolidge maintained that spending level of 3.3 billion per year for the rest of the decade. The Harding-Coolidge tax cuts produced increased revenue that went to cut the national debt left by Wilson by one-third. The 1920's saw the tax burden of middle Americans decrease while most lower income Americans were relieved of their tax burden altogether. By 1930, their was a sharp increase in the number of Americans who could afford what were then middle class luxuries such as ranges, ice boxes, radios, vacuum cleaners and other household appliances. There was even an increase in the amount of time Americans found for recreation and entertainment. The 1920's saw the tax burden of middle Americans decrease while most lower income Americans were relieved of their tax burden altogether. By 1930, their was a sharp increase in the number of Americans who could afford what were then middle class luxuries such as ranges, ice boxes, radios, vacuum cleaners and other household appliances. There was even an increase in the amount of time Americans found for recreation and entertainment. Many of our historical elite like to characterize the 1920's as the decade of greed and Harding and Coolidge as symbols of greed. This is simply not the truth. During the 1920's, neighbor still helped neighbor and charitable organizations still cared for the poorest of our lot. Few events more characterized the generosity of the American people than the joint private- government relief effort in 1921-1923 to help the victims of famine in Soviet Russia (a nation to which we did not have diplomatic relations). Nearly 30 million citizens of Soviet Russia faced starvation and it was the American people who answered the plea for help and saved countless lives. Many scholars and historians blame the Harding-Coolidge economic program for the stock market crash of 1929 as well as the great depression. The stock market crash of 1929 was not the calamity Americans have been made to believe. There were no major business or bank failures resulting from the crash. The crash of 1929 occurred in October and by December of that year the economy was once again calm and remained so for the next six months. The depression did not occur because of the stock market crash. There were several errors on the part of policy makers that plunged our economy into a deep depression. The inaction on behalf of President Hoover, New York Governor Franklin D. Roosevelt, and the Federal Reserve Board to curb over-speculation proved very unwise. The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 which President Hoover supported and signed into law helped to paralyze global commerce. The huge tax increases signed into law by Presidents Herbert Hoover and Franklin D. Roosevelt retarded economic growth, ballooned the national debt, and sunk the nation deeper into the great depression. If Presidents Hoover and Roosevelt had moved to curb over-speculation and otherwise continued the economic policies of Harding and Coolidge, the nation may have been able to have avoided the great depression. Most certainly, the depression would not have been as deep and prolonged as it was. Despite what our historical elite have professed to us, the economic policies promoted by Harding and Coolidge during the 1920's created a level of prosperity our nation would not see again until the 1980's. It is long overdue for Harding and Coolidge to receive the acclaim they deserve for rescuing America from economic depression and returning it back to normalcy.

On March 4, 1921, President Woodrow Wilson relinquished the office of the presidency to Ohio Senator Warren G. Harding. The state of the union was poor. "With the exception of Lincoln, probably no president in our national history has taken office with as pressing a burden of unresolved questions." Those were the words of the Nation of February 1921. The national economy was in the depths of a depression with an unemployment rate of 20% after a runaway inflation. On April 12,1921, President Harding went before a contentious Congress and presented his program for economic recovery which he called "A Return to Normalcy". Harding's normalcy program consisted of the following measures. 1) A call for a national budget program (which was vetoed by his predecessor). 2) National debt reduction 3) Tax reduction 4) An emergency tariff to protect American industry and farm commodities. 5) Farm relief legislation (farm bankruptcies were up 20% from 1914). 6) Immigration restrictions to protect American jobs. read more. http://www.calvin-coolidge.org/html/the_harding_coolidge_prosperit.html while the currant administration. 1. no budget has been passed this year. 2. spending out of control. 3. tax increases with more increases coming. 4. no tariffs to control our trade imbalance. 5. bankruptcies climbing 6. the government protects illegal immigrants and could care less about American jobs. Perhaps now you can see why the Democrats fail at running the economy.

________________________________________________ We do not want Obama to fail but when you consider the way he spent the stimulus money, We just expect it.

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And then the prediction is it will get MUCH worse in 2011. This is very dependent however on whether congress decides to increase or decrease punishment on large and small business AND whether the current level of fed spending is maintained or increased You guys have been wrong all year, esp Stanley with his market predictions, now that the GDP is smoking hot and unemp stabilized, you guys are focusing in 2011. Great for laughs. I guess if your current predictions or past predictions of today tank, you have to make new predictions for future years. _________________________________________________ Hey Lucky it looks like your wrong again.GDP has been dropping and unemployment has been rising.

I cannot understand how anyone would think that higher taxes lead the country to prosper like Lucky would have us to believe until i saw his occupation.

The stimulus bill gave the Unions a raise in pay when they doled out the money that the government borrowed from China and left the states on the hook to pay these higher salaries starting a year later.Thats why in the latest stimulus bill they cut food stamps 10 billion dollars to help pay the states more money to rehire the Union workers that were laid off because the states could not afford them.now the Unions have enough money to pay the Democrats back by contributing to their election campaigns.

I have a feeling that the same could be done to the Quran , but that would get you killed. The letter had me laughing, but i never heard whether or not we could have a Canadian slave.

Now picture the same company having to compete with China . Its no wonder why Manufacturing is leaving America more and more each year.

Now, you just have to prove that the siting errors produce random errors in the measurements - so far, the errors all seem to bias toward 'warm' rather than cold. Known systematic errors are trivial to correct. You really ought to learn something about the things you pontificate about. Next. ______________________________________________ Read what the Washington times printed. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/18/more-errors-in-temperature-data/

open mouth , insert foot.

This is what happens when you put together a bill behind closed doors. I am sure glad that this administration is so transparent and allowed the people to watch the whole process on C-span like Obama promised he would< sarcasm >

__________________________________________________ Then your lesser spending measn someone else isn't selling their goods, so they suffer. Not your problem, but saving stagnates the economy, spending stimulates it. Here's what conservatives refuse to accept: Cutting taxes allows the rich to pocket their money rather than being forced to reinvest it as a shelter, this stagnation cuts jobs and hurts the economy while helping the individual rich person / corporation. The more tax breaks you give to the rich, the fewer incentives they have to seek tax shelters that create employment. _______________________________________ The Government waste more money then it spends. I would prefer for everyone to spend their own money and not for the Government to dole it out.you want the government to do it .just look at all the failed programs it has created.Now you go ahead and make 3-4 new post and tell us how great a job the Government is doing with all that tax money.

___________________________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW5qKYfqALE Partisan hacks eh? watch bubbling Barney for proof on the housing bubble.It was Bush's fault

__________________________________________________ I earn x amount of money a month and if i spend less money a month would i have more money to put in the bank every month? answer: Damn right i would.. Here are the facts liberals fail to understand.... the more you tax , the less incentive a person has to earn more. the more you give to the poor , the less incentive they have to get a job.

tax cuts do not pay for themselves??? are you nuts?Just read what you just wrote. Tax cut means that people pay less money to the government.which means that a person gets to keep more of what they earned. you act as though it isn't their money...