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Ha, 61 seconds! After an hour or so. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Not all tuck tabs are created equal and not all velcro cover designs (and "velcro") is created equal. Some tuck tabs can't stay in place on the ground, let alone in the air. A some particular individual rigs have so much tension on the velro covers that they don't want to stay closed either. This question would be design specific and rig specific. Not all rigs with properly maintained velcro would be good and not all rigs with tuck tabs would be good. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

If you don't get it you don't get it. Having the bomb bay doors open underneath me and dropping out of a B17 is one of the few jump that brings a smile to my face everytime I think about it.

I used to have a left hand leg strap throw out, right hand reserve, left hand cutway rig. I actually only wanted a left hand main but they built a complete reversed rig. And I'm right handed. I later switched it to normal before selling it. I jumped a normal rig at the same time. I had a right hand ripcord, a left hand leg strap and a right hand leg strap that I jumped interchangably. Only reached the wrong way once in about 200 jumps and never got far enough to try to grap a handle. Not an issue for someone aware. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Now I know your Crazy. Intentional terminal reserve openings???? No, I really know you need to clear the other fools, errr, CRW dogs, that might be following you. Hmmm, do pack the reserve with the nose rolled?? Just KIDDING all you newbies. And to the thread in general... And I'm more worried about the 600 foot canopy collision, cutaway, and impact at line stretch as a good reason for an RSL than a 2500 foot partial. As well as the newbies that cann't figure out how to use their eyes to find the silver handle. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

I disagree with the above post. A cypres 1 was never worth $1200 (or pick a II number). The last price I knew was about $950. Now it costs $1200 for a "new" one, but it's not the same. The battery lasts the whole service time, its water resistant, etc. etc. On the other hand, a cypres 1 might be worth a premium because someone doesn't have to shell out $1200. My current opinion is that using $950, $75 for batteries, and $160 plus shipping ($180 in Michigan) for service gives the farest value. If you want the "new and improved" then you have to shell out more. At least that's the advice I'm giving my girl friend with one for sale. BTW NOS (new on shelf?) doesn't exist. Life time start at Date Of Manufacture, not in service date. So once they leave the factory they are no longer new, whether installed or not. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Ok, past second rest zone and through wheels before carpal tunnel set in today. Don't forget to clean your mouse balls. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Ditto skymonkey, only 26 years and 18 years SL instructor and 20 years rigger. I've never seen that either. Either a Europe thing or unique to some DZ somewhere? BTW I'll translate into American: by bungee I assume you mean rubber band, not bungee cord. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

THE good thing about MODERN RSL's is that you can DISCONNECT it when you want it inactive. There is no reason not to have your rigger install it. For camera, CRW, or because you want to get stable before pulling the reserve after the cutaway from the 600' canopy collision (Heavy sarcasm on the last point) then disconnect it. We have a debate among riggers at every PIA meeting on whether they will pack a rig without installing the RSL if it has one. Some will do whatever the jumper wants; some won't remove a safety device for anything and if the jumper doesn't want it intalled sends them somewhere else; and some, like me prefer to install it and let the individual disconnect it if they want. I have many customers who disconnect it, but it leaves my shop with it hooked up. The new technical standard that will be referenced by the next version of the TSO will include the RSL as part of the TSO'd components. Then (a couple or more years away) a rigger will have to decide on whether to remove part of the TSO'd assembly; an even harder choice. Have the rigger put it on and disconnect it if you want. You CAN have it both ways. BTW, if you don't have it installed, make sure the hook velcro on the riser is covered with pile velcro tacked in place. The hook will chew up the adjacent reserve riser. BTW I have one on both my rigs, which gets disconnected when doing CRW or camera. The views are mine and not necesarily the official opinion of PIA or the PIA rigging committee PIA Rigging Committee Chairman I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

hehehehe - I thought that was funny too

I'm a little slow this morning. I should love it that a woman wants to let me feel her screws. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Hmmmmm or maybe not. Or maybe BOTH. But I think Bionicway sounds better than cyborgway. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Hey I even have half a screw I can show you. Nobody asked about the 11 1/2. I broke one not long after the repair, but it wasn't caught on the periodic xrays during healing. A few years later the head part started backing itself out under the skin. The Doc took it out in about 3 minutes under local. Later when I went back and looked at all the xrays you could see that it was broken after a couple of months. Don't have a clue how I broke the metal screw and didn't know it. Still have to get that necklace made with it. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

You know, I actually ment to limit it the question to skydiving injuries. But, hey, we're supposed to be tolerant of others. Like volleyball players and skiers. But, I would suggest it's clear that a bionic (or cyborg) way SHOULD be skydiving initiated extras. We have a 7 or 8 way on my Cessna home DZ! I was at WFFC for 7 straight years but haven't made it to Rantoul yet. Don't know for sure about this year. My newish (but skydiving) SO might have other plans. So, one of the for sure cyborgs may have to take on organization. But I all ways thought it would be a good idea. It might be bigger than the Bobway! I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Ok, who has extra parts. Metal plates, screws, artificial stuff? Two plates with 11 1/2 screws in my left ankle from hitting the tree during canopy inflation, 1987. Always wanted to do a "bionic" way at the WFFC. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Congrats, You got me thinking. In November it'll be 26 years for me also. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

2QT2DRV Sorry Wendy. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Easy Kris, I was just kidding. But, the riggers I know that give the main back packed are those that don't have a lot to do, are new enough to LIKE packing mains, or don't unpack the main to start with. A lot of riggers will cutaway the main, take the bag out, keep things straight, hook the main back up with out taking it out of the bag and close the rig. I've never thought it was worth the risk of putting it on wrong, even though there is a slim chance. Opening the main also gives me a chance to give it a look. I DON'T agree with not hooking it back up. But there are some riggers who don't want the main delivered with the rig. Oh well, have fun. Turns out that my girl friend (400 jumps) and I might be out to Perris for the first time around July fourth. We'll have to check in with the dz.com'ers. Later I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

I tell my customers that they will get the main back attached and straight but unpacked. I'm not being paid to pack the main and I don't want to be. Everybody has their own preference on how they like it packed. I almost always have to take the main out to pack the reserve and I prefer to have it off out of the way. But since I took it off I put it on. Some customers used to give me the rig without the main. Two of them hooked it up backwards. An hour to pack the main? Maybe you need the practice.

Another thing to remember is that you can start your landing approach when you open. What do I mean? With rounds landing accuracy began with opening and deciding whether to run hold or crab. These days that time can be used to establish vertical separation. I usually jump 4 way and often with lower time jumpers. Even though I don't fly a high performance canopy, I'll often spiral down below them to land first. Or, if I seem to be high on the group or in the air with some hot rods I'll lurk around above them until they have landed. Try to make sure the people know you were there after the fact, if not before. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Pretty much what Mike says above. INCLUDED $40 (I'm to damn cheap) A.I.R. including fabric testing and ripcord CW03-01 New cypres loop New main loop if needed. Minor retacks Cypres battery change labor ($75 for battery, CONFESSION, batteries are about $69 delivered so I make a few bucks, but only charge the going rate for the battery, not $90 like I've heard.) Any AAD removal or installation. I never want any charge of mine to keep someone from jumping a cypres. $10, including shipping one way, if I ship and receive for 4 year maintainance Cutaway cables cleaned and lubed. Main reassembled to rig and continuity checked. A brief overview of the main, (links, quick look at lines, bridle attachment, bag, pin attachment, bridle, PC and handle. Main PC pocket. main gromments, (reserve grommets see A.I.R. above). An occasional rubber band or two on round diapers. If I have to do them all $5. An occasional rubber band on main bag. Extras New safety stow $3, about my cost $5 or $10 gets a lot of minor repair work out of me. I don't do it for a living. But, $3 for a cypres loop, or $1 a rubber band, or charge of more than a couple of dollars above battery cost to install seems excessive. Yes the stuff costs time and materials, but I prefer to set a rate I'm happy with to include these things. If I did it for a living I'd probably have to $50 or $55. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Just ordered them and changed one for a customer last night. Did they agree they were the wrong size and did they send a different size each time, or did your rigger decide they were the wrong size? You have to follow the instructions. For the rig I did, a 1996 Talon, they don't go through the chest strap like other rigs. The ends are above the chest strap just under the mud flap. I your rigger is trying to make it look like some other rigs with the housings ending right above the handle, rather than following the directions, he would think they were too short. It is NOT difficult to get them from RI. All they need is the serial number and you will get what you should have. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Been there, kinda. I was at terminal velocity 400' waiting to bounce. I had done everything right. Cutaway by 1800, pull the ripcord right away, pulled the cable out and looked at the pins and threw it away when nothing happened. (It was pulled, the last pin was still in the housing.) Rolled over on my back to blow off the hesitation, nothing but blue sky. At 80 some jumps, hmmm, what else to do? I thought, "reserve total, I guess I'm dead" Up to that time I was hurrying/panicking to do everything I could. Then just like a switch, the panic turned off. I was landing off the airport behind a building in a bulldozed made house size brush pile. I thought, about the last thing I would think, "I'm going to go straight to the bottom, I wonder how long it will take them to find me." Opening shock, good round reserve, altimeter at 300'. "I'm alive!" Look down heading for some power lines. New panick, "I'm dead!" Enough time to turn 180 degrees, land in front of the power lines in the same brush pile. I was mad and upset that I did everything right and the rig still almost killed me. The rig? Struggle, Struggle, Thump prototype. The old timers know what I mean. There were several minor rigging errors. The top loop hung up, the MA1 PC rotated, and just sat there. So was I mad? Yes, I did everything right and the gear almost killed me. Less at the various riggers that had seen it, but enough to become my own rigger. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

No I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

I've managed to collect most of the movie posters for the Gypsy Moths. Some 8x10 lobby cards, one a three way, one the multi colored rounds, an English full size poster, a Austrailian tall skinny version, and a couple of other full size ones. If and when I get my basement remodel done I have a theme. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE