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see above I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

The tables are fixed. But not the typo above. I'll pass that on to the Chair. Thanks. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

I'll contact the webmaster and have it fixed. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Only a DPRE (Designted Parachute Rigger Examiner) can test you for adding a type to your certificate. Not any master rigger. There are only about 40 some DPRE's in the Country. Now this Master Rigger you talked to may have been a DPRE. And the Master Rigger can supervise too. I see your in Montana. Actually there are a lot of DPRE's in Montana but mostly associated with the Forest Service. PM me if interested and I can give you a contact in Missoula. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

at http://www.pia.com/piapubs/TSDocuments/ts-135.pdf Free for the downloading. This document has been years in the making. The Parachute Certification Standards Committe of PIA has worked long and hard on this. Opposing viewpoints caused the committee to make minimal progress for several years. But, Pat Wilson of the U.S. Forest Service (now chair) and myself (Co-chair and Chair of the Rigging Committee) were appointed to the committee as end users at the request of the FAA. By actually making motions and taking votes we finished this document in Reno a year ago. It was submitted to the FAA toward the end of last year. This has been submitted to the FAA as a testing standard to be incorporated into a new revision of TSO C23. The process will take 2 years plus IF the FAA decides to adopt it. We hope the EASA (European Aviation Safety Agency) will also adopt it for EU certification. The previous standard was SAE AS 8015(x). SAE has indicated they no longer wanted to produce updated versions of the standard. PIA was charged with the responsibility. With PIA writing the certification standard and writing and maintaining what used to be MIL SPECs for parachute materials and components we have moved into a whole new realm of interaction and responsibility with the military and the FAA. The next business meeting is in Chicago in August. While not the most interesting of meetings I encourage anyone interested to attend. 95% of the meetings are open to the public. Only the Executive committee and Committee chair meeting each morning and the membership consideration part of the Plenary sessions have limited attendance. This is the REAL PIA. The International Parachute Sympsoium, which is often referred to as "PIA", is an event we sponser every two years. For 3 days prior to the symposium PIA held our regular business meeting. Any riggers who would like to join are welcome. See the website for a membership application. I am working very hard to change the membership dues and voting structure to encourage single person shops to join. We took the first enabling step to change the bylaws at the meeting in Jacksonville. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Unless you got your chest rating long before you started skydiving 8 years ago, I can't figure out how your chest could have been that long ago. Mine was in 1985 and that's fairly recent. The problem is that packing a ramair reserve is NOT like packing a chest round. And much more will be involved than simple supervision by the rigger. A whole lot of teaching will be required. They have to be able to say that you know everything neccessary to rig backs, whether rounds or squares. I've helped two people get ready for rigger courses. Both got 10 -12 pack jobs with me as well as a whole lot of knowledge. I didn't charge but should have. Both supposedly were going to leave the area. One was my competition for 6 or 7 years and one has basically taken most of my business because he lives at the DZ. People have asked me to train them since and I've refused. One I don't have enough time to get done what I need to get done. Two, if I charge what I think it's worth it would be more than they would think fair. I figure I make about $15 an hour on my rigging. Sometimes more, sometimes less depending on the rig. So is this something you'd be willing to pay? I don't know. Sounds like a lot. Considering each pack job will be at least an hour, more like 4 to start with. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Haven't seen this anywhere but might of missed it. I asked about 2 months ago but they didn't have an answer. Cypres 2 maintenance price was announced as $160 including whatever they do with the power pack. This was announced by Kai as well as in writing in a brochure at the booth. So at 4 and 8 years $160 plus shipping. Down from Cypres 1; 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 years $75 battery (insert local price) and 4, 8 year $160 maintenance. Vigil, at the last minute, asked to be added as a presentation. I, as speaker coordinator, accommodated them as best we could with a two hour slot on the last day. They did a good job of fielding questions from a somewhat hostile audience. Many people are still skeptical of an electronic life saving device that doesn't need scheduled maintenance. This could be real concern based on broad experience or a mindset "learned" from Airtec. While I have a personal opinion THIS post was not ment to express it. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

For everyone on the roll call I have a label that says dropzone.com with your user name below. It's return address size and can be put on the bottom of your badge. Of course in the appropriate color. Look me up at registration. Any of the staff can help you find me. Or call me on the hotel phone. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

That was up there with Lone Star Parachute who sold a kit to sew your own main. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

The second plenary meeting is in session. At 11:00 the technical committe begins followed by the rigging committee. Others will be begining at 11:00. There will be a new version of the speaker schedule placed on the web site in the near future, probably today. There are only two changes. Look for it there and updates at the Adam's Mark. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Like you, he bought the canopy with out jumping it. If you didn't offer an inspection and test jump and return option, you should have. After this much time though, I don't feel you have any duty or have done anything inappropriate. This is not a unique situation. BTW this is coming from the Plenary Session of the PIA Business meeting via meeting room WiFi. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

I'm here. Where's everybody else? I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

I check out the name tag. and maybe try to print address label size labels to add. Time to shut down and pack. bye til there. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

If you find me, I'll try to have some supplies to print some label/badges. I'm the speaker coordinator and will have computer and printer in my room. Ask for me at registration or information. I'll try to have a sign up sheet and them make them up. No guarantees, I've got a lot to do. Hey Sangrio, can I use dropzone.com on the badges? email me. Terry Urban (councilman24) I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Actually here is the official description, since I'm running it. This program is run by the rigging committee of PIA at the International Parachute Symposium. Coming up Jan 14-18. See www.pia.com for details. "Riggers, please sign up for this program in the registration area if you didn’t do so when you pre-registered. You must be registered for this program in order to receive the certificates, and this program is only open to certificated riggers. For all participating please pick up a log sheet at registration. This must be completed and turned in after you have attended ten hours of either rigging or technical seminars. Refer to the upper left hand corner of each seminar on the schedule for the “R” or “T”. Please bring this log sheet to the Symposium office to collect your Certificate of Recognition before you leave the Symposium. For any questions see Terry Urban, Rigging Committee Chairman." The certificates will be available BEFORE you LEAVE. Please pick them up. Also, a not only do you receive a certificate from PIA but also from the FAA. They have no legal status and continuing education is not required by the FAA but it is an indication to your customers that you've taken the time to try to continue learning. see ya there! look me up and buy me a beer! I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Not sure I have office dividers Rob. I'll have something worked out before the seminars start. Some of the other presenter might want to use it too. When are arriving? Call me when you get there and we'll see what I've got. Later I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Okay, I probably need a floor standing model. Hanging from the ceiling may or may not be an option. Thanks though. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

I need to construct for the symposium a rack for presenters to use to hang canopies from for inspection/repair. I was going to use electrical conduit until I realized there weren't Tee's available. May still us it with holes drilled in a 2x4 for the base on each side. Anybody have a better idea? I'd use pvc water pipe but it's not stiff enough. Pipe is pretty heavy. Wood is too rough. 1 1/2 inch pvc drain pipe will work but pretty bulky. Got the spring clamps. Just trolling for ideas I haven't thought about. I wasn't inspired at Lowe's last night. Transportation not a problem. I'll build it there. Tools will include hand tools and probably drill. Cheap is nice. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Got a friend who still loves his. Nothing wrong with proper set up. And he doesn't swoop. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

http://www.sportparasim.com/ for $19,500. Head mounted virtural display, suspended harness system. At least on European competitor will also be at PIA. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

At the last PIA symposium I presented First Aid for the DZ, subtitled What NOT to do!. Probably not going to give it this time but it's a difficult issue. Some DZ's lawyers tell them to rely on local response and NOT have any staff responding "officially". Others try to be proactive. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

I had a rigger at skydive dallas show me that trick this past sunday (19 Dec). Honestly, that was one of the hardest openings I've had so far. The one thing that I have found that slows it down a little is to shove the nose into the canopy before wrapping the tail. More than likely, after a few more jumps I will probably get used to it and it won't seem so dramatic. Pushing the nose in helps hid it behind the slider, in theory. Did you try rolling each side to the middle, putting it in the center cell (DON'T do this with a shaped leading edge, it may never come out!), AND pushing it in? Also be sure that the slider is all the way up against the stops and stays there during bagging. It ain't a car wreck, it's a parachute opening. Of course I decided not to get a Spectre because it opened too slow. And I'm an inch shorter than I used to be. I swear, everyone's becoming a weeny! People that started after we went to ram airs for students have told be that they wouldn't have started under rounds. Now it'll be people saying they wouldn't of started under Non zp. Or under an original Sabre. Okay, so I'm a curmudgeon. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Not necessarily so. Ask someone who used to jump a Unit! (hmm of course it would be right in style now for slow opening.) Newer model canopies, which happen to be ZP, are designed to open slower. Too slow in my opinion. But there are plenty of ZP canopies that open fast, and some non zp caonpies that open slow. This opinion may have been formed because most non zp canopies were designed when we didn't want them to snivel for 1000'. Also, your idea of exploding may be a "normal", "slow" opening for that canopy. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Just realize that at your experience level you need to take care of surviving the skydive first! You won't (shouldn't) be allowed to get near the tandem pair so a sign in freefall is out. She probably wouldn't see it/couldn't read it anyway. You don't have enough experience to video anything so that's out. It will have to be something in the plane or after landing. After landing probably better. Hmmm 8' diameter "ring" target put out after take off? Depends how good the tandem master is. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

You need to go to the PIA symposium and listen to John LeBlanc's presentation. The same wingloading on a small parachute is much less forgiving than on a large parachute. Many things come into this. The length of the pendulum (skydiver hanging under canopy) is shorter so reactions are faster. There is less drag so speed and response may be faster. It is a BAD idea for anybody with 30 jumps to be going down to a 120 or 130, no matter what their weight. I know some old timers that learned this the hard way by suggesting too small of canopies to light weight newbies. Some one this size bought a 135 triathlon and was way in over his head. And ended up broken up. While I suggested it was too small, he listened to someone else. WL of 1.0 that MIGHT be okay at 170 lbs is not the same as WL of 1.0 at 120 lbs. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE