dnhump

Do what's right and allow the addiction to have its way with you... as a mad scientist, you understand. And always listen to da SKYMAMA!

smooth, Al... real smooth

Your 'self' just experienced "sure death". Your body felt the 'fall', your brain saw the ground coming and you wonder why you couldn't breathe? You felt sick to your stomach because your brain thought you were going to die and threw out a few chemicals!! Ever heard of 'fight or flight'? Welcome to SKYDIVING! This ain't jogging in the park! It's FLIGHT! Enjoy the physical reaction! It's what skydivers live for! THIS IS LIFE!

Quade, To you personally and publicly, I apologize. I am abrasive, at the least. I'm sorry. I get angry when "skydiving" and "criminal activity" are combined. From now on I shall be more thoughtful about what I say and how I say it. I felt you were locking me out of the discussion, because I wasn't seeing any of my posts published. I hope you accept my apology and continue with the fun...

I find thrill in pulling low enough to shit my pants but high enough to avoid cypress-fire... It's a fine line with me! I call it "beat the clock" Wanna play?

There's nothing wrong with being a 'family man'. Skydiving can be a 'family activity'!!! My dad, two brothers, myself and my 18-year-old twin daughters all jump our asses off at Skydive San Diego! Talk about a family outing... Teach your family what it is all about and they just may help you to jump enough to do it safely! Skydiving isn't a 'walk-in-the-park' It's SKYDIVING! Don't kid yourself!...it's DANGEROUS! Especially if you cannot practice enough!

Skydiving saved my life! I know that you will find true freedom... enjoy

man-oh-man, I don't write very well, but I was trying to say that I agree with you. 'EVERYBODY ELSE' was refering to the people who don't get it. We all want this sport to thrive, right? There's no place for stupid bullshit!

John, You are right! Everybody else is immature, stupid and insulting to the sport. If you don't get it, get out!!!! DUH! I didn't didn't know this forum catered to dip-shit 2-year-olds!!!

This is why I participate in this forum... Thank you for that link. I think that this kind of discussion is the reason this sport is growing safer. Experience and knowledge working together to eliminate obvious danger. Do you ever take the time or have the presence of mind to look up at the group after you or down at the group before you? It's a trip. Don't think it looks like a graph... just watch!

*** If you don't feel like searching, here's a link to a useful tool. The short of it: vertical separation is nothing. Horizontal separation is everything. Stay safe.

I saw DB Cooper riding the LochNess monster over to Big-foots pad. They're all chillin' on E !!!!!!!!!!

stagger the groups by size... I like it. 5-way, 2-way, 5-way. Good. But what I don't understand is this,,, Freeflyers fall fast and usually use smaller canopies, right? They should go out before the belly-ways because they can be to the ground (or nearer to it) before the belly-flyers even pull!! Then they won't be weaving in between all the less experienced (larger, slower canopies) in the landing pattern. Usually the less experienced people are doing belly jumps, right? (Not always, I know; just usually). The larger canopies can make it back to the landing zone easily. The high-performance canopies are quite "ground-hungry" and should be opening closer to the landing zone... Hence here's the order according to my logic (which has been enhanced by this discussion)... Tracking dives, freeflyers, bellyflyers (stagger those... big group---small group---big group--- ) then students, then AFF, then tandems, then wing-suit flyers. There you have it. That's the new rules. Period. Yeah right... At my DZ the order actually goes... Cluster-fuck, belly-tumble, smaller cluster-fuck, then inexperienced cluster-fuck, then go around and let out the tandems. And thank god for the tandems or all our cluster-fucking dives would stay on the ground. Our plane don't leave the ground without a tandem! Fuck a fun-jumper! Even though the fun-jumpers are the main source of tandems! If the profit ain't good, fun-jumpers sit and watch the "elite military packers and riggers" go up and down with a half-empty plane! Guess them riggers are practicing some "special-forces rigging freefall" crap. Oh well the staff is great. Even the Manager is cool... just wish the shot-caller would grow some balls! I hope I don't get in trouble for this rant. The truth is what it is!

It's like this... tracking dives, belly-ways, freefliers, (those groups all go "largest group to smallest") then non-A lic. students; AFF jumps, tandems, wing-suit flyers. That's the order where I jump. We use an Otter and a Caravan... I try with all my might to understand why the order... I know...'drifty belly-ways' and 'damn-fast free-flyers' and what-not... didn't occure to me it would be different elsewhere... cool discussion.

Yeah, Nick... Actually Frank held the rip-cord in his hand while he shoved us out the door with his other hand... we had our arms completely through each others harnesses.

Just wait till ya see your kids in freefall! When I tell them to take ou the trash or do the dishes, they tell me "HANG ON!" or "LATER!" I hope they have a better attitude when I give them the "pull" signal

he just started... He has his B-lic. Neil put him through Aff.

This is Annie, Her twin sister has the same DNA... they are identical. My brother jumps at Skydance in Davis, CA. We are looking forward to a cool family 4-way!!

My twins just turned 18! They're rockin' the skies in San Diego!!! 3rd generation Otay jumpers... I'll post some photos.

Replying to a year old post... the Stinson Mule "THUNDER CHICKEN" my dad used to call it that all right... The Lakeside DZ east of El Cajon...Vance Breese (sp?) and Lorretta and Harry and all those guys...

How in Hell did you know that from a black & white photo?! That is my dad's (D-2118) blue and whit checker-board PC. I jumped from Bob Boyle's (C-14237) shoulders after riding around for a couple thousand feet... I jumped off at 3000' AGL and opened my 7-cell Strato-star that Frank Mott sold me for $270.00. My room-mate (Bob) flew the PC to the ground uneventfully after my leap. Thank you Nick DG for capturing that moment in my life... I'm so glad to be able to show people that photo.

Think my karma is OK. Here's to leaving the kitty alone.