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Take out the prison violence and it's about even even in that. Other studies that are referenced in the same doc. I've since corrected it I'm not going to do it again. I don't want a balkan or Lebanese style civil war over whether Jesus is the true savior or men can become pregnant. Pretending it's just the right excuses the lefts wrong doings.

I quoted the report, did you not read it? I stated by doing my own analysis: The left has more incidents over all The right incidents kill more people over all. Exactly what the source data says. In addition, like I stated you can even out the numbers where they are closer together by removing prison violence.

Where right winger extremists include prison killings done by white people. One of the graphics going around includes McVeigh even though it happened in the 90s. Also notably does not include Hale and a couple of other left wing attacks, also leaves out the Trump rally violence.

The report which was removed said that. If you read it. The quote is from the report.

It’s an overview, the sources are available. Some notable things they include is prison violence done by white inmates. From the removed "study" with no source data only citations: >Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives.1 In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.2 >The prevalence of particular movements can ebb and flow over time depending on political climate and law enforcement priorities, but at no point in recent U.S. history has one set of beliefs completely dominated extremism or hate crime activity.11 The cited actual study: https://www.start.umd.edu/research-projects/extremist-crime-database-related-projects includes prison violence and McVeigh which would make it closer to equal if you added tranny school shooters...

I certainly did at the time and I wasn’t even a right winger in 2020 yet.

If the medium is the message and we are the message of social media, then what has that medium sculpted us to be?

Yes video helps because then you can see the context. A single snippet in a 4-5 minute statement is dishonest. Quick examples: the empathy quote one, he states we should have sympathy not empathy, because you can't walk in someone else's shoes. People deserve sympathy. The black pilot one was about DEI, not that black pilots were overall unqualified. It was Because DEI, I think this.

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/52960-charlie-kirk-americans-political-violence-poll Most Americans across the political spectrum say political violence is never justified, but younger and more liberal Americans are more likely to disagree I was starting 2010 onward. Even so what I said was right wing incidents in general seem to cause more damage and the left ones are more targeted. I don't think Timothy McVeigh is a good model for what is happening today. Not EVERYTHING. There is a general problem of political violence. I don't want to be dragged out of my car and asked, "Do you believe in Jesus" or "Can men become pregnant" and get shot if I give the right answer.

I wouldn’t retract everything. There are plenty of violent leftist of which I provided plenty of examples.

It doesn’t count perp deaths (Babbitt), but the 140 injuries would count. My beliefs literally changed in this thread. It went from the right violence isn’t as bad to when it does happen it seems to be more random and larger scale. As opposed to just knocking off a commentator or CEO (discounting the couple of left school shootings that are also random). I said silence is violence in reference to the common justification you see to punching nazis and such. There was a link I posted about it. If silence is violence I can kill you to save everyone. I found a few others but the number of absolute incidents on the left is higher. It’s just the ones on the right cause more injuries. I have not added up all the times a university gets broken up or silenced but I’m sure there are enough injuries to do it. Also Tesla bombings and some of the bigger riots for the left aren’t totally accounted for.

But I got the data and said in my second post I could be convinced. It was definitely my assumption, but I kept digging and found more data. Some that skewed the numbers when looking by incident where the right wing violence looks worse. I think I met you too at a dz.com boogie a million years ago. DON'T DOX ME. Or Russian Disinformation, disaffected Anonymous members, bored kids on 4chan, whatever your favorite bot source is. You're forgetting that I actually did dig and I said in my second post, I can be convinced.

So that you can bring your own hastily compiled data and maybe averaging both data we get less hastily compile data. Do you even online bro? I'm updating it, I'm not saying, hey here is the full version and it's the gospel of all incidents. I was hoping to source more data. The narrative in righty land is that leftists are all violent extremists. When the leftists aren't literally shooting people and rioting they are ready to kill anyone for speaking ill of a tranny, like JK Rowling. The narrative in leftie land is that right wing extremists are constantly planning a fascist take over and genocide of .... protected group. I was evaluating the root data for both of those claims as well as seeing if there is some real escalation going on. I LEARNED SOME THINGS. Is that not what you are here for? Are you infallible with a full memorization of all the statistics? Do you even check your beliefs? Some general things that seem to be apparent: The reporting underrepresents lefty political attacks in general. They do things like including gang violence and Islamic attacks as right wing extremism in reports about it. Both sets of attacks that have obviously mentally ill people that did not even stand trial due to their mental state and ones that probably fall into that category that were killed during the incident. It does seem to be the case that right leaning attacks lead to more fatalities and left leaning ones are more targeted. I will not be moving into a bunker. Yet. I don't know how you can say that since I've revised it 7-10 times. A full explanation is that I care a little bit (I posted that in response to another graphic on the site). BOTH SIDES HAVE BOTS. I give greater weight to people I know and have met in real life (Billvon once in like 2002, 2000 or something) so if he said something justifying violence I'd be like, here is an actual leftist saying some crazy violent rhetoric, not saying he has any such views. In another forum I frequent with people I know in person, there was high support of Luigi, so I give that a lot of weight. A much smaller set of people I actually know are cheering on Kirk killer, but I have seen a couple. I try to assume the text screenshots are bots or something that approaches bots. In the case above I posted it because I'd seen some others. TikTok videos I give a little more weight since it's still likely to be a real person.

I'm literally just trying to count it, today. I omitted it by accident and then added it. If I find any other ones I'll also add them. I posted the stats above. More targeted incidents on the left, that result in fewer casualties over all. The El Paso shooting and Charlotteville skew it worse, in number of injuries/deaths, for right leaning incidents. The raw number of incidents is higher for the left. Don't really care, just trying to get all the data in one place. I have it in a dataframe if you want it! I commented to discuss political violence. A subset of those count (like someone going in and killing kids because trans rights or racism). I'm interested in: What's the current rate of violence between political groups? Is it escalating? Are we headed for civil war? Should I move my kids into a bunker? Is the Kirk assassination enough to really escalate things? Aren't there firearm threads already to discuss the above generally if you want to?

Not yet complete: ================================================================================ SUMMARY STATISTICS ================================================================================ Incident Count by Political Leaning: Political_Leaning Left 14 Unconfirmed 6 Right 5 Name: count, dtype: int64 Total Fatalities by Political Leaning: Political_Leaning Left 14.0 Right 39.0 Unconfirmed 10.0 Name: Fatalities, dtype: float64 Total Injuries by Political Leaning: Political_Leaning Left 12.0 Right 71.0 Unconfirmed 19.0 Name: Injuries, dtype: float64