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I said that I don't really care...not that I don't care at all. I just don't preoccupy myself with this stuff. I'm interested in what you have to say, but have found how you say it to be more interesting. With the exception of Billvon and a few others, most everyone in this forum seems more interested in patronizing people and displaying there arrogance and smart ass remarks. They are not interested in discussion nor are their "discussions" interesting and this is just a pissing contest for them. The only thing interesting is how far they piss and I suppose that this has something to do with the equations of Bernoulli and continuity. So actually, it's not worth discussing anything with them. Since it is relevent I will post the rest of my statement that you conveintly left out. I'm confident in this statement eventhough it doesn't show me how to piss or wipe my ass, which is what I'll be doing with most of these posts if my printer will except toilet paper. So, there we have it...It is not worth discussing anything. period Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

We all have our place were diligence is required. The same could be said for you in regards to the Bible. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

I do not feel at all compelled to play this game. I understand what you are trying to say. I understand that you believe that the only difference between micro and macro is time and scale. I also understand that we have seen some plants evolve into other species. However, some scientist also believe that their may be gaps in evolutionary processes that cannot be explained by gradual phenotypic change. I don't claim a position either way. I'm simply not convinced, but I will still read books like "Climbing Mount Improbable" and other litearture to help me understand what you believe, but that's all. I'm not going to preoccupy myself with it. There is too much effin stuff in this world to know, I can't understand it all in the time I have left. At this point, I'm more interested in living life than figuring out how or why it came about. It's not my mandate and I don't really care. God obviously doesn't think it to be important either. He wrote exactly what we needed to know in order to have a relationship with him and I'm content with the Bible. It has everything we need to know about how we should live life and is accurate in it's claims about human nature and how to deal with it. There are personal evidences once one believes and applies the bible. It is also accurate in it's historical, geological, and sociological prophecies that can be verified. It is also scientifically accurate in several areas including The 1st and 2nd Law of Thermo Dynamics, hydrology, Astronomy, Isostasy, Meterology (wind circulation & air pressure), Physiology (The Circulatory System & Psychosomatic Illness) and geodesy (The Bible tells us that the earth spins on it's axis. This was written around 600 BC) I believe a creation has a creator because it just makes sense to me, it is evident to me when I observe creation. It is evident to me just like it is evident to Bilvon that there are places that exist in the Universe even though we will never see them nor be aware of them. It just makes sense. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Barabbas by Marie Corelli (1893) I've had this book on my list for a while. I began reading it but was unable to finish before I had to move and return it to the library. This book and others by Marie Corelli have been highly recommended to me. she was the most widely read author of fiction in her time but came under harsh criticism from many of the literary elite for her overly melodramatic and emotional writing. She has been called "a woman of deplorable talent who imagined that she was a genius, and was accepted as a genius by a public to whose commonplace sentimentalities and prejudices she gave a glamorous setting" and represented as having "the imagination of a Poe with the style of an Ouida and the mentality of a nursemaid." Knowing God by J.I packer A must read for Christians or anybody looking for more insight into the Bible. The reviews have been great across the board. A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking The World As I See It and Ideas and Opinions by Albert Einstein I already have these two e-books, but I can't stand reading books on a computer anymore. I have over 450 e-books and have came to the conclusion that there is something to be said about sitting back in a Lazy-Boy with a good old hard cover. I think I will also add The Crisis of Islam by Bernard Lewis that you have listed. I have also started writing a book about a man fighting for his son in California's family law system. It will just be a basic template allowing me to write a screenplay. I haven't decided if it will be a book on victory, revenge, or redemption. I think I would rather have an independant film focusing on revenge and redemption, and than writing a seperate novel on victory. The true story ended in a boring drawn out compromise that entailed almost three years of negotiations. (This does not make for an entertaining story.) Thanks for the post Best Regards Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Great!!! Sympathy it is.... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

I will have sympathy for you, but only if you've never forced a man to watch "Grease" with you. It is implied that if you have watched "Grease" with a man, he has been forced. I want to have sympathy for you, so I hope this isn't true. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Thank you Freethefly for the insight into my "mysterious" post. You are correct. The first part of my post was meant to be provocative to make the point that this attitude unfortunately still exists. I'm simply taking somewhat of a responsibility for this attitude, because it is comming out of the country to which I belong, not because I have this type of attitude. My words are somewhat sarcastic...This is interesting because the other day I said to a guy "I thought you were being sarcastic." He said "I stay away from sarcasm because it tends to get me into trouble." The whole "gullible" part was a poor attempt to segue into the second part of my post that implies this attitude is horribly wrong and needs to change. We need to listen to other countries, yet be discerning at the same time because we are all "fugged" in the head and not everyone can be trusted. I hope this claifies everything. Regardless, I think my original post was much more entertaining than this one. Peace Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

The examples you give are quite noble, however if a scientist studying evolution is not being true to science and passing off conjecture as fact, than perhaps it would be better for society if he or she spent their time on more practical things like "discovering a cure for Aids." This obviously does not describe all or most evolutionists and I do have a respect for those that are diligent in anything that they do, being that diligence seems to be a lost art, especially in the cultural youth of America. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

In reply to Phil and Jack in regards to Human Evolution as fact. Is it still not "The Theory of Evolution" How than is it fact. As I understand it, Scientists have said that the discoveries in regards to Habilis and Erectus suggest that they have lived at the same time. This is contrary to what was previously believed. Though this may not absolutely crush the theory, is it still not a theory? Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

It is still just a game that needed a force in order to be played. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

I would agree it would be conceited. I have never said that I fully understand God and maintain that we cannot. I'm thankful that we only need minimal knowledge of God in order to have a relationship with him. Some may say that this relationship is conceited, but as I've said earlier in this post, if we are the only beings that can acknowledge God and His universe, I belive this relationship is essential and makes sense. I believe it was created for us as evidence of His exsistence and to marvel over and give glory and thanks to Him for it. I don't think the universe has a point if it can't be acknowledged, thus our exsistence. I do not believe in God in any way I choose. In the past I did...I believed in a god that was more convenient, that supported my selfish and sinful desires, or did not believe in any god at all. One day I realised that I became futile in my speculations, things didn't make sense and with every answer came many more questions that did not and will not ever satisfy. the vanity was overwhelming, especially in the things that I've acomplished and in those I have failed. I simply asked God to to help me understand and He has allowed me to begin; and for that I'm very thankful. I can only share my beliefs in a loving and non-judgemental fashion, but it can be hard when dealing with the insults (especially towards God) and I'm learing to be more discipline. Ultimately, it is between that individual and God as to what they will believe, and I think we all believe in something. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

This is very discouraging, yet proves my point. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

I'll give you micro evolution...but that's all...and you very well know that's all you can expect. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

I agree with you Hausse and I think my post does too, though I don't exactly understand what I wrote. I suppose its the whole "gullible" part. I think I just wanted to say "are we so gullible?" I don't believe you understand what I wrote either... Anyways...."My ignorance amuses me." (I just watched Tomb Raider and that quote mad me laugh....hard.) Best Regards Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

WTF dude...relax...I have a love for everyone in this forum. Though I haven't posted much, I read everyday and feel a personal connection with those who have no idea who I am. I was raised Cahtolic and have renounced it. It is universal and I have found the ingnorance in this religion to lead to cowardice,(especially in regards to it's history) and an incapabilility of expositing. (determining a position) I would not speak of my beliefs if I did not have a genuine care for those to whom I speak of the Bible and the truth of God's creation. I sincerely believe, so how can I remain silent? If it is not accepted, I move on and do not overwhelm...These forums however give an opportunity to fight the good fight of faith...the "F" word. Sometiomes our (christians) actions in these forums (debates) are of righteous indignace, other times they are futile and full of sinful pride. Most of the time it is a pointless debate...I risk my faith and joy to have the chance to express by beliefs in the hope that some will come to that faith and joy. I risk it because I do love those I speak to, though my words somtimes are not pure...and I apologize. How do I risk? I'm bombarded with ideas and doubts that I once believed as a unbeliever and creative scoffer. They bring back those doubts and I have to search scripture that vindicates itself everytime. Nonetheless I waste time searching in something I already know to be true in order to ease my doubts and my joy is gone temporarily. This is what Satan seeks and he wins, yet I continue on and God fufills his promise to perfect the work he has begun in me...so Satan loses. Sometimes I get so discouraged and weary that I do not want to believe anymore..."how easy life would be" I ponder....but I cannot and this is my evidence that what he says is true. I was worse than any of you...much more creative and influential in my disbelief. And this is why I grieve, because I do not deserve this joy and forgiveness and this guilt free life yet here I am and loving every minute of it. Especially the pleasure of the pain. I do not judge, I do not feel I'm better than anyone, I'm not smarter nor more stupid, yet I'm a fool in your eyes and it hurts. I wish it were different...I wish God made it easier on us, but he is who he is and not what we want him to be and I love him for it and I put my trust in his wisdom...Who are we? look how great we are...is not God Greater? Why it makes perfect sense to me that I cannot deny...I can't explain...for God has granted this understanding to me, because he gave me the ability to humble myself and ask. The very fact that I believe is evidence to me. How could I have ever believed this? I was worse! The fact is that it has nothing to do with me and eveything to do with the glory of God...so tell me how can you understand? Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

I have observed this myself. I have not went over the replies thouroghly but it seems that the theist have won the "I'm a christian and proud of it" thread while the atheist have run a muck in the "I would like to tell you a bit more about God" thread. Just a very casual observation..... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Happy Birthday Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Well, lets make this a Speakers Corner Post....Isn't it Brilliant how God has protected us from the chaos of space? Did he not create the chaos and the protection as evidence of his love? I suspect some may take this as a weakness, but it is one of the greatest things I can fathom... I love GOD and I'm sorry for my lack of faith...Please forgive me Father. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

I was just out pondering the questions in this forum when I seen the most brilliant shooting star ever...literally(well at least the brilliant part) Its amazing the awe when viewing somthing so unusual in person, opposed to reading about it or viewing it in a picture or video. Did anybody see the Perseid meteor shower last month? Sorry I missed it. EDIT Is this a bonfire post? Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Thaks for stating the obvious. Perhaps you should thank me for being the only one who gives a crap about your post thus far..... just kidding. I hope I don't seem so arrogant. If so, its only for its sake and not because I actually am....does that make me arrogant? OR make any sense whatsoever? >edit Sorry for the small "b" I'm usually more sensitive to the caps, as they are important to me....especially when naming God....sorry I hope you didn't feel that my tone was directed specifically towards you...it wasn't...I was just blurting out the first thing that came to mind...it can be quite theraputic. Send me a bill if you please. I'll seriously pay for it...(someday) if it's reasonable.... Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

It is unfortunate that 40,000 people have lost their jobs in this industry, 25,000 of those in the last month and almost half of those in the last week. 20,000 builders have also lost there jobs. But is it not there own fault...was this not forseen? So many "no name" mortgage companies developing just to get a piece of the action and targeting low income, low credit prospects and hiring anybody that needs a job regardless of credentials. Who knows KAllend...WTF is government...the people? We pay regardless. Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Dude...sorry, I'm tired, but I think the probability is 100% since we exsist. However, I would say that the probability of a creation having a creator is higher than anything you can assert otherwise...Does that make sense? Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Fact???LOL....I bet you'll also say that it is fact that primates evolved from other primates.... Edit I'm not really laughing... I suppose this is one of those instances when we perhaps proven ourselves wrong again and say we are "one step closer to the truth"....We'll never figure it out...thanks for trying, but perhaps it's time to use all those ELITE brilliant minds for more practical things rather than our own prideful curiosity. We could use some help on containing antimatter...you know what I mean...it's been what...30 -40 years? Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

Is it not logical...perhaps even scientific to assert that a creation has a creator...would we not use this assertion in our own physical world? Furthermore, where did the concepts come from? (eg. what feels good? who decided what an orgasm should feel like to allow us to procreate? Who decides what hurts? who decides what tasty wheat tastes like?) Is the bible not true when it says we supress this truth? Would we be more acceptible of this truth if we felt that our only revelation of God did not demand a perfection that is impossible to adhear too...in order to define the perfection of God? Are we more apt to believe that another lifeform exsists somewhere in this vast universe, and not believe that a creation has a creator? As far as we know we are the only ones who could careless how the universe began. Without us, what is the point? Was the universe's intention to evolve into a state that could ackowledge itself? If so, where does this wisdom to control come from? Did it just happen? Has it always been? To deny a force ( a force that I believe is God) is absolutely illogical an unscientific. Give me evidence that this force doesn't exist and perhaps I will take your comments with a grain of salt. The fact is that we do not want to believe that there is something that powereful, We cannot believe how important we really are, we do not want to be submissive to anything, we do not love God nor give him thanks for what we have but hate him for what we don't have. God is our enemy and the Bible says so. We hate him for what he is and because he is not what we want him to be. We are prideful and arrogant. We do not understand because we are the source of our misunderstanding and do not want to understand....How can we understand? Our search to understand by our own intellect is futile and will only result in more questions. When we have proven ourselves wrong we say "one step closer to the truth" but it is one step closer on an infinite thoroughfare. Is in not true what the bible says...."Vanities of vanities! All is Vanity."? We cannot come to understand the fullness of God on our own, because it pleases Him. He does not want us to find him in our own wisdom, because we would boast. God is our enemy, why would our enemy let us win? Yet He loves us so, that if we believe and ask him to give us understanding with a sincere heart...He will. This is the "F" word. This faith may be as little as saying that I cannot understand this absudity, but if you exsist, please help me to understand. People say let me see and I'll believe...is this not an oxymoron? How easy is it to "believe" in fact? Is it not fact? But believe and you shall see. If God requires faith than is not the Bible written perfectly? In any event, let it be known that this faith is a gift from God that man may not boast. And this belief is in Chirst who has demonstrated the character of God in his love and wrath, so that we may know God for who he is and not waht we want him to be. Amen Corey AKA...Low MAO Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...

We already have enough disagreement within our own country. We never really ever cared what the british tought....why should we start now, or why should the british influence our decision on what we already know? Are we so gullible? I pehaps think we are and need other countries to clear our scaled eyes....but who knows....were all fucgged!!!! Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...