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Just a quick off-topic question. Do you feel the same way as you've stated above about other issues, e.g. gay marriage? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

In "Thinking for Yourself", Marlys Mayfield relates a story from the author Jean Liedloff. Similarly, (from Liedloff herself on this page.) Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Sure there is. Essentially all ethical systems have at their core a principle of respecting/valuing human life. Two complete atheists can have a terrific debate on the moral issues surrounding abortion without either of them invoking a god of any sort. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Of course they are, I mean the Drudge Report said so, right? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I have not bothered to look up the word "hoplophobes", so perhaps I wasn't supposed to answer this poll. In any case, I'm strongly in favor of our right to bear arms. I believe there are already too many restrictions in place. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Where? Where?! Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

The fact that we have no proof from him of the dismantling and disposition of weapons he was known to have had, and used. Say what? The fact that he did not provide proof of the dismantling and disposition of weapons he was known to have had constitutes proof that he was developing WMDs? This is an unfamiliar form of logic to me. Please elaborate. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Unnecessary. From what we've found so far, apparently one of the earlier requests worked...unless of course we've found some indication that he WAS building WMDs. Please fill me in if this is the case as I must have missed it. "Worked"? As in, we requested he get rid of his WMDs and he DID? Try to keep to the discussion at hand. I'm responding to your post that we could have asked him again not to BUILD WMDs. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

It was Saddam's obligation to prove he got rid of them. The war is Saddam's fault, no one else's. Like a cop car chase. Someone gets hurt by the criminal being chased, there's allllways plenty of people eager to blame the cops... Note the actual words you're responding to, the key one being "developing." Clinton said we would deny SH the capability to develop WMDs. I've kept it in context so you all don't start screaming about two sarin artillary shells that we might very well have given him or funded for him. Now tell me, how does one prove that they are not doing something (e.g. developing WMDs)? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

You might also recall that it didn't get the job done, either. Really? What evidence have we found that Saddam Hussein was developing WMDs? He tried before, and only an idiot would stop trying. OK, I'll admit I don't have an answer to everything. That particular response just leaves me slack-jawed and drooling. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Correlation is not causation. Those people were bringing the average down before they got CCWs. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

You might also recall that it didn't get the job done, either. Really? What evidence have we found that Saddam Hussein was developing WMDs? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Unnecessary. From what we've found so far, apparently one of the earlier requests worked...unless of course we've found some indication that he WAS building WMDs. Please fill me in if this is the case as I must have missed it. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Oops...sorry about that. I've got the Google toolbar and don't get pop-ups. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I wasn't too surprized by mine...new housing going up like crazy in a pretty monocolor small town. Population 9,071 (est.2002) Median resident age: 32.9 years Median household income: $57,750 (year 2000) Median house value: $124,800 (year 2000) White Non-Hispanic (90.6%) Hispanic (4.8%) Two or more races (2.2%) Other race (1.9%) American Indian (1.4%) Black (0.6%) High school or higher: 90.5% Bachelor's degree or higher: 29.1% Graduate or professional degree: 8.9% Unemployed: 5.3% Mean travel time to work: 25.1 minutes Crime in West Richland (2002): 0 murders (0.0 per 100,000) 1 rape (11.6 per 100,000) 0 robberies (0.0 per 100,000) 11 assaults (127.4 per 100,000) 26 burglaries (301.1 per 100,000) 75 larceny counts (868.7 per 100,000) 4 auto thefts (46.3 per 100,000) City-data.com crime index = 92.3 (higher means more crime, US average = 330.6) Black race population percentage significantly below state average. Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average. Renting percentage significantly below state average. Length of stay since moving in below state average. House age significantly below state average. Population density below state average for cities. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

How do you mean? It's the same picture JohnRich posted as an attachment...or at least on my computer it is. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

So how does your hometown stack up? http://www.city-data.com/ I thought mine (West Richland, WA) looked ok, then I looked at the "Top 100" lists. Man, housing in Texas is apparently really cheap on a cost of living basis, but check out Fort Knox, Kentucky where most people can buy a home with 5 months wages! (median household income $34,020, median house value $14,200) Of course on the other end of the spectrum is Isla Vista, California, where the median household income is $16,151 and the median house vaule is $402,400). That'd be depressing! Blues, Dave (yes, I'm a bit geeky ) "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

My guess is you don't have as many safe outs as some other DZ's. I've read nothing to indicate this guy picked a dangerous place to land. Flat, obstacle-free terrain is just as safe off the airport as it is on the airport. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

So if one state decided that they weren't going to recognize driver's licenses from any other state, and then started issuing traffic tickets to every out-of-state person driving through the state, for failure to possess a valid driver's license, then that would be okay with you? Absolutely. I'm thinking the sudden lack of tourists and more importantly truckers would quickly cause that state to rethink it's position on recognizing other states driver's licenses. That means that each state is supposed to recognize the official acts of all other states. That's why a marriage in one state, is just as valid everywhere else. That's why a judicial finding in one state, is just as valid everywhere else. But when it comes to gun licenses, no one wants to abide by the Constitution. Do you feel the same way about radar detectors (legal in some states, not in others)? If enough people avoid a state because they can't carry concealed there, the state is likely to change it's stance. In a free, democratic republic, that's how change should be brought about. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Hear, Hear! I was thinking the exact same thing. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Perhaps they only have room for one "fair & balanced" news station. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

With the GOP in control of the House, the Senate, and the Oval Office, I can blame anything and/or everything that's happened in the last 4 years on them. :-) Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Interesting. For some reason I thought someone else got the Libertarian nomination. Anyhow, I agree with Libertarian doctrine a hell of a lot more often than any of the other parties, but I still find this hilarious. From the platform on the www.lp.org page: Having read those, look what public offices the 23 currently elected Liberatians hold in Washington state. Robert J. Bromley Sumas Mayor Judy Byrd Peninsula Parks and Recreation Committee Rob Chase Chase Youth Commission Mark A. Hamilton Bonney Lake Civil Services Commission Chairman Eugene P. Hawkridge North Shore School Board District 4 Michael J. Hihn President, King County Water Commission District 125 Greg Holmes Spangle City Council Ray Huff Granite Falls City Council Position 3 Frank P. Jenkins Pierce County Aging and Long Term Care Advisory Board Walt Kloefkorn Stevens County Rural Library District Board Trustee Ron Lahr City of Spokane Community Development Board Steve LePage Benton Conservation District Supervisor Scott MacQuarrie South Cle Elum City Council Position 5 Scott MacQuarrie South Cle Elum Town Council Nick McLauchlan State Elections Board Bill North North Highline Unincorporated Area Council Robin Palachuk Spokane Regional Transportation Council Citizen Advisory Committee Jim Richardson Skamania County Cemetery Commissioner District 3 Don Vandervelde Peninsula Parks and Recreation Committee Bruce White Kent City Council Richard Whitmore Chairman Water Resource Interest Council WRIA 1 Jonathan Wright Harbor View Hospital Trustee , Seattle Derek M. Young Gig Harbor City Council OK, maybe it's just me. :-) Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

How many WMDs and long-range missiles have we found since invading Iraq? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Well of course, but that's because the less law-abiding persons aren't able to get CCW's in the first place. Certainly, though that wouldn't explain why CCW holders tend to have a crime rate lower than that of many major city police departments. You're correct, it doesn't explain that because that's not what I was trying to explain. If major city police departments have higher crime rates than CCW holders (a fact I've not heard before but wouldn't be surprized by), I'm sure it's for an entirely different reason.