virgin-burner

that kind of thing doesn't happen, you know it very well weeeeell.. hasnt happened to me so far yet.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

there's a whole thread about it; basically, his chute got entangled with his ringsight, and if it wasnt for his cypres, he wouldnt live to tell the story; to lazy to dig up the thread.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

In what kind of camera entanglement will AAD help? If it's pilot chute(can't really figure why I would throw that into my camera gear), then maybe, but I still would use the reserve myself before AAD activation. I'm just saying that at this point I trust myself enough to jump without one at certain situations. Absolutely not saying it's not a great thing to have on a rig. just ask piisfish.. he will tell you!

garlic, crosses and silver-bullets!? “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

well, it's not only others fuck-ups.. a simple entanglement with your camera-gear, or a loss of altitude-awareness, you may just be happy to have one! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

what about opening the infamous "emincé de Porc aux Spätzli et champignons" can ? or applying corrections to your Stgw57 ? or help you push the cleaning pads in weird places ? gschtampfti jude! thank god no-one understands this one here.. it's actually not even so bad as most people make, especially if you're HUNGRY.. all other applications are NON-lethal.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

Oh no I agree, and I would rather have an AAD than not have one. I'm not arguing against one. However, I think criticizing someone who does not jump with an AAD due to cost is a bit misguided, since the cost benefit analysis could be beneficial for some people. so some people value their life less than what, 1200$!? alright! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

well, an SAK is also a knive, i doubt tough you can use to for anything more than cutting sausage or your own fingers off.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

OR you can post a pic of yourself half naked doing chores who are you? what have you done to jo!? HALF-nekkid!? “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

once i hit one going on the highway at over 80mph; little thing got stuck in the whipers. stopped at the next possibilty, got a tissue, pulled it free carefully and put it on a tree. apparently it was still alive. oh, that happened with another dorkzoner too!

*thumps up*

"bat shit crazy" how cool is that for a pet!? “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

i'm not buying no "shit" from you, maybe a shirt.. well played sir! now, can you actually work that dyson? i want to see you bend over for me, BITCH! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

Indeed there are. The dog that mauled/killed a person is euthanized. The person who owned the dog that did the mauling/killing is put in prison, held responsible for the actions of the vicious animal. Any questions? not if you break into my house. the dog eats the burglar, gets away with it. if you kill the burglar, you pay a 300'000$ fine.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

Let it socilaize with the burglars...Outside. only if they have steaks! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

Dog's property valuation: Stereo: $0 TV: $0 Computer: $0 Squeaky duck: Priceless it's more than that; my dog thinks it's squeaky things are it's children. she's highly worried if you make them squeak, carries them away and licks them, checking out if you've done any harm to them.. oh, and you get the LOOK, too! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

i were to understand your argument if i've sent my dog after a thief.. BTW, i pick up after my dog, the shit that is.. and to completely derail from the topic, like a human, a dog is a social creature. that means, if you dont sleep outside, your dog shouldnt. you are doing it a disservice.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

dude, to put it REAL simple: a dog is a DOG a human is a HUMAN if there's no difference, i come over for a visit and shit on your carpet or your porch. would you find that acceptable from a PERSON!? there's DIFFERENT standards applied to DOGS and PEOPLE. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

yeah, totally different the guys in this case just got out of the house and shot to kill. BTW, my dog isnt trained to maul as you put it. it's a natural instinct. a HUMAN is (should be) different; because otherwise, you are just an ANIMAL. and should be put on a leash, or behind bars, depending on how dangerous an animal you are.. yea, simple things, subtle differences, too much to take for the typical SC-poster.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

well, i would be totally ok with that.. and i think most burglars would trip over their feet while running the FUCK away. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

dude, if you cant figure out what the difference is between a dog protecting it's territory and a HUMAN conciously killing someone, then you have more issues than i'm willing to deal with, that should be reserved for your clerk. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

Not inanimate, but certainly a tool in defense situations. But a dog is a tool that, no matter how much training you give it, you have even less control over than a gun. The dog won't know if an intruder is after a stereo, which VB thinks is beneath protecting, or if the intruder has more sinister motives. A human can gauge the nature of the threat. A dog just sees a threat. When you look at it in that light, having a guard dog almost seems worse since the intruder can't explain to the dog that he's only after items with a small dollar value. Which, again, VB says aren't worth defending. no-no-no, VB said a dog is an animal, and as such cant be held responsible for it's actions. as someone else pointed out and to what i agreed, if you ignore the 70lbs, big, black, mean dobermann-rottweiler barking you very probably have other interests than things of small value. ii also said if you ignore THAT threat, you are fair game. and the dog has every right to have a little fun with you (the possible burglar that is). and this is still different from waiting with your gun at the ready to shoot a THIEF. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

actuallly, i have asked if YOU were drunk, since your rambling was quite incoherent.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

A. Who are "they"? We all seem to be arguing past each other in this thread. B. IIRC, virgin_burner has said in other threads that he owns multiple guns and is quite proficient at their use. I doubt he thinks guns are bad. C. The whole "you're lock step with us or you're a gun-o-phobe" thing is why a lot of people are wary of the pro-gun lobby. i do own a sig-550 (ex-army, castrated, now single-fire only) and a remington shotgun. and yes, i do know how to handle them. i would get into a whole OCEAN of shit, not just a puddle, if i used them for anything else but protecting the life of me or others. this is called self-defence. even then, my use of "lethal force" would be investigated, and it hadto be in an "appropriate and measured" way. means, if some guy comes after me with a knife, i cant just blow his head off. i may shoot him in the leg, or his arm, but i cant put a whole magazine into the poor fucker. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda

strudel is german; just saying.. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda