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the 'are you a cop?' thing was a joke. i agree that cops have much better things to do than bust jumpers, but that doesnt mean that their priorities dont occasionally get mixed up. cops like to be cops, and they get sick of the same old traffic tickets and domestic violence cases, and the opportunity to do a little sleuthing to investigate some report of base jumping would make many of them rub their hands together with glee. there have been cases (not too far from you) where somebody was spotted on a jump and weeks later, a retired jumper got a phone call from the authorities... if they could just look on a website and see how many jumpers were listed within a given area, it might make them think it happens more often than they previously thought (and if they knew how to contact this retired jumper, then they must have had some kind of exposure to BASE in the past, so they weren't completely oblivious) i do agree that it would take a pretty big incident to actually prompt authorities to subpoena the entire database.. but the current system works well as it is; in fact the current system has worked quite well for all the times i've visited your turf, without any internet databases. thanks for all the fun btw Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

that is the most ridiculous idea i have ever heard. you are done talking. p.s. are you a cop? Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

Pope: send a PM to andrewkarnowski, he's making something just like that.... maybe you'd be interested Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

You mean you don't have one? Regarding this database, I'm typically all for new and cool technological innovations to organize chaos and make life easier for everyone, but I really don't think it's necessary in this case.. I agree with Mac that it could very easily become a political battleground of the 'in' crowd vs everyone who hasnt been 'approved'. Either it's too hard to be 'approved' and lots of responsible, skilled and knowledgable locals are excluded (causing tension and hostile politics), or its too easy to be approved and the quality of the system gets diluted. Ambassadors? c'mon... as a whole, BASE jumpers can't even decide who should and shouldn't do this the way things are now.. every time somebody steps up to be a 'spokesman' for base in any way, 30 people pop out of the bushes with spears and skewer them; then 10 of them go and do it themselves, with the same result. In areas where locals tend to get along as one happy family (cinci?) this would probably be okay... but what about certain areas that are so fragmented that crews end up calling themselves the 'A' team or 'B' team due to local politics? I think the system works as it is.. post where your going on the forums, get a response or two.. if you dont, then make a few calls. The only people who would use the new system are probably already forum regulars anyway.. $.02> P.S. if it's so anonymous, how would you know which ambassador(s) to trust? Also, how would an ambassador know to trust a request from an anonymous user? the whole background check/references thing only works if people use it.. and if history provides any clues, people already don't use it all that effectively when they sell gear nowadays (correct me if I'm wrong?) Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

without a microscope, i doubt i'd even notice Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

I'm sorry, you must have mistaken what I said as an offer.. but at least you understand which one of us would be wearing the bra and panties in that scenario, so its all good Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

on the cover? nice, got a photo to attach? this other pic i have of you that i keep under my pillow is getting old, and a little bit sticky. Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

is there something you dont like aboot this prohcess? eh? Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

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I checked my voice mail last night to find multiple pissed off/disappointed/sux-to-be-you/your-such-a-jackass voicemails piled up on my phone from family members (some of them relatively distant), friends, and neighbors (luckily no clients... yet). Apparently, a relatively large area newspaper, in at least two issues in a row (maybe more, I haven't gotten copies), reported that I was convicted of a DUI in April, providing my full name, age, and address. This was news to me, as well as to the court that the newspaper cited as a source of the information. Fact is, I haven't been stopped in lake or geauga county for over a year, and that was for speeding. I called the newspaper and got them to look into it, and they did finally admit, after further research, that it was a misprint and they apologized and they will be running a correction in the paper tomorrow. Thing is, the damage is already done; its not like everyone who saw the original reports will end up seeing the correction, and even if they do they will probably just assume that I got pulled over but got it dropped down to a reckless op or something and got the paper to change it. I have quite a few clients in the circulation area of that paper, and with the amount of phone calls I've already gotten from family/friends, I'm positive that at least a few of them have seen it. Somebody's head needs to roll; since the days of swords and duels are long gone, legal action is probably the best way to go That's where the 'Law People Speak Up' part of my thread title comes in. Anyone have some experience with this type of thing? Anyone with experience or knowledge of how slander/defamation cases work in Ohio? Thanks for your help

Sounds like your BASE mentor didn't hug you enough. I took Tom's course in December '05 and didn't mind in the least that he didn't jump with us most of the time; in fact I felt a little guilty while he sat at the top of the bridge packing in 17-degree windy weather while we hiked out instead of jumping, so we could make another one before having to go back to his house to pack (it was kind of crappy out and there was only a little space under the bridge to pack one or two rigs at a time) He did make at least one jump while we were there, to show us the way to climb out. If you think that someone needs to literally hold a student's hand the whole time and even be there at the bottom to give them a High 5 after their jump, then maybe you don't quite get why some people enjoy BASE. After they land from opening their first tower solo, nobody will be there to high five them and tell them how rad it was, and sometimes that can be pretty cool. If you're satisfied with landing from your first jump at the perrine and high-fiving your fellow FJC-mate(s) and waiting until you hike out to get a cookie or a pat on the back from your instructor, then you probably won't be bitching about tom not jumping during your course. If you want to cuddle with your mentor and get a reacharound after your first base jump, talk to slambo.. Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

There aren't many people on dz.com that I can say this about (especially myself..), but man, you should speak up more often Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

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We are doomed.... here comes the epic merger of all three sites including video uploads, customized user settings complete with forum subscriptions, self-moderation that somehow miraculously works, and an online casino that would put partypoker.com to shame (bounce bingo anyone?)... On that last note, maybe that's the ticket to getting legal BASE events that manage to be profitable enough to make a building owner's ears perk up.. spectators could bet on things; like who out of this 8-way will open lowest, or guess who will have the next 180, or how far will the next jumper land from the target.. the amish have been doing it at our dropzone for years Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

omg, you registered two years ago, and this was your first post? You know, there are some people who just never, ever, ever speak, until one day, after hours of deep reflection, they utter a string of words so magnificent that wars end and NPS superintendents sign up for an FJC... This just wasn't one of those times BICYCLE SHOESTRINGS! Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

HAH! And we can see how well that works... then again, it seems to work just fine for those of us without sponsors, FJC's, our own wingsuit forums, close proximity to (popular) legal bridges, or large volumes of sand in our vaginas edit: unfortunately that last item doesn't apply to one particular pussywhipped redheaded jumper who missed out on the wang dang doodle festivities Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

A little envious, Andrew? ...I am... Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

Someone needs to tell ESPN to go home and give Dr. Phil a call. The camera crew can stay. Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

but we... are... hooker snortin, coke fuckin, suicidal maniacs... ... ... ... aren't we? or at least... one of us...? Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

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I'm pretty sure that MyTwoCents wasn't placing Jimmy himself on his list as #113, but rather the HIDGAF attitude that jimmy has been known to portray. My attachment of calvin pissing was meant to signify him pissing on the HIDGAF attitude, not on JimmyH, or on whoever it is that will become #113. I picked the calvin pissing icon in particular because I knew it would get calvin19's panties in a tight little bunch I am now getting this creepy feeling that Karma will end up making me become the real #113, just because of that attachment... *shudder* Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

What if you dont fuck up and still die in a BASE jump? Could you then care if you tried? Seems to be a misunderstanding. My point was that if I was on the list, it would be impossible for me to care. Regardless of whether someone thinks it was a mistake or not. There was no misunderstanding, I was just being a facetious asshole ...and future jumpers reading the list would need to see that there are people on there who made no technical mistake.. and that just leaving the edge could still, potentially, land them there. Though the list is valuable for reading and learning from others' technical errors with rigging, packing, or execution.. when a new jumper reads through the list and tries to 'rationalize' his jumping by noting "that guy made a mistake... so did that guy.... this dude left xxx on his yyy... and this guy should have definitely known better than to do this...", it is quite sobering for him to suddenly reach a few fatalities where the jumper apparently made no huge costly mistake... other than jumping. At that point, it is hard for anyone to say something like "well it won't happen to me, because I'm not going to let myself fuck up that badly!" Basic lifesaving information on how not to fuck up and die can be spread without the use of a list... but I can't find any better demonstration of the danger of this sport than a list that includes those incidents where there is nothing to learn other than 'shit happens.. it happened to him (pic) and it can happen to you too' Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

i knew you would, why do you think I picked that one out of aaaaaallllllll of the other images of somebody pissing on stuff that google came up with? edit: cross praying ones? huh? that doesnt sound like calvin to me.... Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."

Speaking of 'Pissing on Graves'... BTW Jaap if your calling the witness protection program like aaron recommended, maybe we could get a group rate? Web Design Cleveland Skydiving "Hey, these cookies don't taste anything like girl scouts..."