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Jerry Stated: ================== Georger Replied: Georger - you know I tried to get a conversation going - the same as you did. Both of us were hammered on by JT. When I came to your defense (encase you didn't read it ) - BANG! I was his target. You personally know I have been pulling back because of what is going on. If the FBI needs for me to take a Lie Detector Test than they would have ordered one. If I am not JT's target then he aims at you. We were just opening up somethings that needed to be looked at - and BANG Jerry shot off his shotgun. I went on the defensive and everyone else, but you ran for cover. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Orange: Read back and you will see that JT had been attacking Georger, before he started in on me again. He plays war games - and he has to have a target or opponent. He started in on me and all I do is defend myself. What YOU just told him has been told forever and ever, but he just doesn't want to believe it. He won't let it go...I have been letting go. I even tried to start a conversation about alternative methods to search about something others had ignored - prior property owners along the river. Check back on my posting - I did real well - until JT did his thing about the mundane things. He had already been hammering at Georger and then when I made the post below JT came in on me and he has NOT let up. I made a contribution regarding my PERSONAL knowledge and experience in WA. I am not talking about Duane, but Tena's bar. At least be fair and you will realize I was try to participate neutrallly and I even made suggestions and even started conversations that others where trying to discuss - but, then if JT read something he doesn't like - he is all over me with the short snippet posts.

Blevins has NOT endorsed my story. You know that when this is over YOU will NOT be part of the COOPER story. All you have ever done was impede the investigation of Duane and others. WHY? What are you going to do when the FBI announces who Cooper was? How are you going to explain your abuse of me? What will be your excuse for your inhumane reactions? How are you going to feel when this thread is made available for the world to read? How tall are you? How tall you actually are is irrelavant - it comes down to how tall you will feel when the truth is known. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

EXCUSE ME! The FBI has NEVER requested a polygraph even though I offered to take one. You have ASKED, but YOU ARE NOT FBI. [/RED] I have not lied and yes, there are things that changed AFTER I went to WA in 2001, because I had no choice but to believe you in regards to the locations prior to my 2001 trip. Who was I to argue with the MAN on the ground? YOU know it was after I got back from WA in 2001 - that I CEASED contact with you, because of false things you told me. Had I have known what you were doing I would have found someone on my own to seek these places out. I trusted you and depended on you because Himmelsbach told me you were the Man On the Ground. I had 2 communications with you after I got back in 2001 to let you know what you told me was NOT true. I even went thur it again telling you it was there - but you just would NOT listen or you were unable to comprehend. At that time in 2001 - I told you about the Lake - and asked why you did NOT tell me about the lake. I told you about the house on the farm on the Southside of the lake and asked you to research the owners (you did not do this - because the owner was sound of mine in 2001 may have been able to provided me with answers about Duane and a story he told me about the owners ). This man is NO longer able to communicate with anyone at this time - (OLD TIMERS). I even told you about the site that the RIVER LADY directed me to that was like the place Duane WALKED DOWN to the water - a steep incline and the railroad tracks - doubles. I told you about the TANK and that I couldn't find the tank. I even told Himmelsbach Tena's bar was familiar, but I didn't understand why until we returned along the river - had they approached it from from the overpass in Vancouver, I might have grasped the route Duane took me on. It comes down to memory and time. Time and Space....to remember something that happened 22 yrs before you have reason to recall it - your mind condenses and catelogues specific incidences, but does not compensate for time. The Fazio house and the gate and the water and the area across the river, but that is the only memory I have of Tena's bar. I thought this was a FALSE memory or pictures in a book, but it wasn't...it was a memory I had to explore on my own. Time and space - behind the wheel of car in WA did it for me. I did NOT get to do the approach in 2011, because I ran out of time and money. I knew that the RED Lion was the last place we went along the river before crossing the bridge. I thought looking at a map all of this stuff was FAR apart - it isn't...so I found out in 2011. YOU told me over and over that there was NO shop in a little town East of The Dalles or the gas pump. Even in a phone call since I got back YOU denied it when I asked you about the 'hill' or little Mt. - that I found it and knew the name of the man who owned the property a the foot of the hill. You again told me after i went there with a witness that this did NOT exist. WHY? WHY? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

What are you talking about - I haven't called you a name! Nor have I insenuated anything. You mentioned the last post and I do NOT have a clue what you are talking about. NONE! IOTA! P.S. is this the post you are talking about? This reply to Georger has NOTHING to do with you,Jerry Thomas. I am talking about something I am aware of that Georger may not be aware of and definity you are NOT aware of. Now this might be a hint! Is the FBI doubting their own DNA work? Is the FBI certain they have Cooper's DNA? The FBI needs two source samples - but they don't have this. What they have is a 40 yr old tie and clip with multiple partial male DNA. The DNA they have is so incomplete they cannot rule anyone in much less rule them out. How many brain cells does it take to understand this. Last but not least - perhaps the FBI has good reason to doubt the DNA at this point in time. Maybe someone has made a positive ID of Cooper in the last few weeks? The words above are NOT my words, but those of others who have contacted me over the last few wks. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

How many times do other posters and the FBI have to inform you - a polygraph is absolutely of NO use? The FBI has NEVER asked me to take a polygraph test - but, I know others they should have required a polygraph of (no not you) - individuals the FBI talked to regarding Weber. IF the FBI will agree and obtain a polygraph from these persons, then I take a polygraph....if the FBI still requires it. I expect if these individuals are offered something only the authorities can give them - this will be over. I need to bury Cooper/Weber and very soon. The authorities know who I am referring to. These individuals are unaware of my long struggle all of these yrs. Remember - I disappeared from the media in 2001 and they are therefore unaware that I am still pursuing this. Because of the circumstances - I cannot approach them. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jerry, Jerry, Jerry - you are acting like a child. Sure things are taken out of context on this thread many many many times. A lot of it is by error and sometimes it is because the posting party is NOT making themselves clear. Sometimes they just get tired of stupid replies - such as your many posts today because you feel harmed in some way. At least none of them have done the things you have done to me, such as calling me a liar over and over and over. You are upset because someone disagrees with you? Yet, I have taken your abuse repeatedly simply because you disagree. You can dish it out, but you can't take it. All anyone is doing is asking you to show PROOF of what you say - the same as they ask me for proof. Don't sit there and whine about it - explain it the best you can and MOVE on. One or 2 well thought out post will go much further than your short snip posts. If you can't use the DZ spell checker don't feel like the lone ranger - I can't make it work either. What you can do is compose the post in Word and then copy it to the thread - I find that too time consuming and prefer to answer spontaneously. Most will look past the spelling (I make lots of grammar and spelling mistakes - ask Georger), but try to take the time to make a post that makes sense. Sometimes I spout off, but to argue with someone on a thread is a little senseless... been there done that....the only person you make look bad is YOURSELF. Grow Up. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins, I have a question as I only saw "Decoded" that one time and that was with friends at their house. We did NOT have anyway to record it. Perhaps my mind has twisted the show. but wasn't it Bernie Geestman who called you a "liar". Why would he call you a liar? I haven't been able to clarify in my mind what he meant by that. I have tried to reach Geestman, but all I got was 2 addresses and gave it up Also did you ever receive a copy of th "Palmer Report" if it could even be called a report. If I remember correctly you claimed to have received it. Cook and others have received a copy of the "Palmer Report" from the FBI...so I do not undertand why people claim to have this "report" but never make it public! If the FBI sends this out - why hasn't it been posted in this thread or put in your book. Could it be that the report does NOT support the claims made by the FBI, media and others regarding the money find being in the water for 8 yrs? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

SEE THE PHOTO BELOW! Added after I made the post - it is getting to be time - 48 pages Exposed?

All I wanted was for some of you to tell me what you think about - that flaw or tie tac. Only 3 others besides myself have ever seen the orginal (in my possession), I guess I was hoping there might be a miracle out there and some photo expert could enhance this and tell us if it is a flaw or if it was a tie tac. If it is a flaw it is very close in shape and reflective value of the tie tac left on the NWA flight. Just so much you can do with a polaroid photo taken in 1970 and kept in an album for A LOT of yrs...but WHY did the ex-wife send me this particular photo along with another photo of her holding sun glasses identicial to the ones used on the plane? Her comment in the note with the pictures was so I could see what she looked like with her blonde hair. I will not post the part that exposes her - but if any of you could see this photo - you would wander why she made that statement with this particular photo. The hair was a poor color and frizzy and they (Duane and his wife) were setup at a flea market in Atlanta, Ga - I would have to pull the pic to get the actual date. You know the letter should be with those 2 pics, but I have never scanned the letter or the backs of the photos. Her attire suggest mid Fall or early spring and this was NOT a flattering photo - at least it is not something of myself I would have shared with someone - with that particular statement on it. Both photo were sent to me at the same time. This Photo and the one of Duane with the brown jacket on. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Thank you - what you got was about what I saw - but it is odd that mark is right where the tie clasp would be on a wide tie. I was giving things a last look before they are filed and boxed or put in their appropriate place, such as back into the album and in new album for pictures of Duane - his past - that others shared with me and what I have in the way of photos I have used in my exploration of the death bed confession. Please explain to the old woman with "Dumb Blonde Syndrome" what the post you made about the salvage companies means using what information they had availabe - 1971 to 1980 when the money was found. Was all of this in Tosaw's book? Or is this in conclusion with information you have personally derived at since then. KISS - no I don't want a kiss - but, make an explanation that makes sense to me and others or direct us to the informaiton that caused you to make the post. Again Thank You, P.S. Are you aware that Duane's brother and sister-in-law knew Tosaw from Modesto. They belonged to the same organization and John's wife mentiond - Tosaw's wife or sister. These guys all knew each other. I was told Tosaw was not married by another party and the reference John and his wife made must have been referring to a sister. This occured in a conversation with the brother and his wife in 2004 while I was in CA for Proton Radiation for my husband at Loma Linda University. At that time the brother and wife lived in a community about 45 minutes from Loma Linda and no longer lived in Modesto. John asked me if I read Tosaw's book and I told him yes and that I had 2 short conversations with Tosaw. This is when the brother and his wife mentioned their connection to Tosaw. The brother and Tosaw had communicated regarding Duane. It was about this time we got a phone call that Duane's sister was at the hospital with a heart attack. The brother and I were supposed to have a private conversation after dinner in his office so we could speak privately and not in front of my then current spouse who had cancer. We NEVER got to have that conversation - the brother was not able to communicate with me over the phone because of his hearing impairment. I will always appreciate the sacrifice my husband made during his journey with caner and the grace he showed in allowing me to meet Duane's brother and my opportunity to finally although briefly connect with Duane's family. I met the sister that night but very briefly - she said "You are not Jo". I told her I had been trying to tell her on the phone I had NEVER been to CA. The woman she met in 1977 was a prior wife and not me. I never understood why Duane introduced his ex-wife to his sister as me "Jo". I was responsible for Duane being in CA to see the ex-wife, because he talked about her all the time and I was NOT going to commit to a marriage if he was still married to her in his heart. It was NOT until after Duane died that I found out Duane had gone to see his sister in CA when I put him on that plane to see his ex-wife (Thanksgving 1977). He never told me he went to see the sister with this ex-wife. She and I are different as day and night...similar in appearance, but it ends there. Remember that Duane's family had disowned him - because of his record and John had NOT seen his brother since 1957 and the date of the conversation was in 2004. Families back in the 50's dis-owned relatives with criminal back-ground. John and his wife were both college graduates and Duane never graduated from high school Two fifferent world. Duane's sister also lived in Modesto and had moved to this community not far from Loma Linda to be near her brother who was the oldest. The difference in age of Duane and the brother - was 12 yrs with Duane being the baby. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I am trying to post the highest resolution this thread will take. I have never shown the full picture of the all dressed up 1971. Well, I found the picture was taken in 1970 and not 1971 and that Duane let his hair grow longer, but that is NOT my reason for posting this. There is s smudge or spot on this old polaroid I thought was just a defect, but I was looking at the tie and clip from the plane - and noted something I have not notice before. Look at the plane tie tac (you will have to reference you own images for that). Now look at the spot on the tie Weber has on. The tie is wider - so that spot is exactly where the Cooper tie tac would sit on a wide tie and if it was clipped from the left - the bar would be under his jacket. No I am not desperate! Sluggo noted the spot and so did one of the other individual who came to my home....but we thought it was just flaw on the old polaroid (this is the orginal polaroid and not a copy). I am cleaning up things here and putting affairs in order for storage - when I decided to bare my sole to the mercy of this thread and see what others think. Hope this thing downloads - if not I will have to do it tomorrow. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger, I really wish I was able to down load a bigger picture here. I really want you to see this. I could put it on a disk and send it to Sluggo if he is still alive and he could send it to you. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Sorry about the error, but I had taken my sleeping pill because I had a early morning appointment. At least I read my post tonight and caught my mistake - unlike drinking and driving and being involved in a fatal auto accident! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

When I was out in WA and the TV crew was there and one of the Fazio brothers was there and Himmelsbach. THe area the showed me was slightly East of the Fazion home which is different than what is shown on the maps. From the beach looking back at the Fazion home the gate to the area on my left. There was tree line between the beach and the house - with the GATE being to my left. Now bear in mind I am on the beach looking back at the house. The house that was there at that time was relative regtangle and with only a door stoop in the back - no deck or porch. Between the tree line and the beach and to the East of the house was the site they claimed was where the money was found. I have never been able to understand the pictures because they do NOT show a retangular house - from the Beach side. That is all I know. There were still some mature trees along the fence row on the beach side. I refused to pretend to scoop up sand because that was not the place Duane took me where he went down a hill and disappeared. But did feel I had been there...because Duane did go under an overpass and we drove along the river - there were industrial places and then farm land...How far we went and at what point we turned around I don't remember - I just know that the last stop was the Red Lion on that side of the river. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

GEORGER you didn't NOTE for crazy thur out that post? Now you say the absense of evidence - explain what you are talking about! Could the absense of this evidence be the result of this money having been stored in another location in WA or OR for several yrs? Or perhaps someplace else all together? What if only the bottom of the container the money was stored in was wet - only the bottom layer would need to be destroyed. And of course I mean thrown into the Columbia. We can be assured that money did NOT come down thru the Bonneville Damn and over the rock of the Washougal....SO how did it get there - and it obviously was NOT in the water from Nov. of 1971 until Feb. 1980. Eight yrs in the water? Now who sounds like Charlie Sheen? Question: You are able to actually investigate photos - this is NOT a joke. Last night I noticed something in an old polaroid made in 1970 and enlarged it as large as my system will allow me. I want you to look at this - I know about your work with the planets and some of the photo work you have done regarding the planets and stars.. I think you might be able to help, but I don't want to be made fun of or for this to become public knowledge, because it may just be a defect in the old print which was taken with polaroid. I can have it scanned to a disk at the highest DPI's they can do and mail it to you or a 3rd party or a P.O. Box. I cannot email it or post it - as I only have dial-up. You can PM me here but I cannot PM you... I also want to learn if that old book of which the lower part was wet might not have the impression of money on it. I will NOT send the book but have them also scan this very very fragil book so you can see if that is a money image on the back. Just a request or do you know someone I could take it to that would be capable of doing the same thing...I don't want to have to tell them WHY I want this done. Perhaps you could arrange it thur a University near me. I just didn't see this until last night and stayed up all night trying to enlarge the darn thing. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The barriers: 1. Cooper lost the cash and it ended up in some remote place eventually washing down the river to Tena's bar. 2. That Cooper actually hit the Columbia himself. 3. The ONE no one wants to believe - that the money was not put into the river until 1979 last wk of Sept or first wk of Oct. That this money had previously been hidden in another place or places. (the one theory that has NOT been tested) 4. What if anything is known about the bills? Silver nitrate used in the process of trying to extract prints. No mention has been made of alternative storage of the bills, except for the crazy woman. 5. At the time of the find - no enquiries were made of owners who owned or leased properties along the river from 1971 to 1980. Closed mines will never know the truths that are hidden within. These theories where approached and yielded No results that made sense. The clues were there - but it was easier to claim Cooper drowned and the money had been in the water for 8 yrs. NO one was more surprised this money surfaced than the FBI. It was easier to claim Cooper hit the water and drowned so people would quit looking for him. Cooper was not smart - when he dumped the money in the river. In the past he was a guy who spent more time in prison than out of it because he kept making the same stupid mistakes and many time got caught, but how many times did he not get caught? What was Cooper thinking when he dumped that money in the river? They would find it and think he died and stop looking for him? Was he afraid his wife might find it? Did he just do a stupid thing without even thinking about the consequences? The money showed up a few months later and what does he do - goes on the run. Turns in his resignation and leaves the area leaving behind his wife and home...he needed to put space between himself and WA and he did that by going to AL. This was the same MO that put Cooper in prison and/or jail 5 times or maybe more due to all his aliases. The stupid Crook got lucky! He had bungled everything else in his life from the time he was kid. Poor marriages, poor choices, disowned by his family at the age of 18. His family was ashamed of his military discharges - they left Ohio. Then trying to win his families approval he managed to get himself into the ARMY to please his parents - it didn't work. This trouble maker just got into more trouble when he commandered the General's vehicle for a joy ride at Camp Seibert, AL.

Georger, I know how to swim! Rescued 2 boys in a rip in the Gulf when I was 50 yrs old. The lifeguard was too far away to have reached the boys in time and I knew this. I was a certified lifeguard at the age of 17. I will admit that when the life guard finally got there after I had broke out of the Rip - I was exhausted and NEVER ever thought I would be glad to see a lifeguard myself. I react - I don't think. I do what I think is the right thing at that time. Don't expect me to be too kind to Jerry - he has NOT been kind to me. I am not sure I would even throw him a buoy...that is how much I despise that man. Jerry was throwing stones before I knew I was under attack from 1996 to 2000. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Earlier I made this post about a man who saw an individual he believes to be Cooper on that Thanksgiving morning in Nov of 1971. I am inserting in red some more information I learned today. One accounting I have is verifiable because he told the wife he was married to about this when he got home from work. His work obviously required he work on Thanksgiving Day. I suppose in some occupations that was NOT unusually in 1971. Today I learned that he was helping another person or member of the family with some constructions - and that is where he was headed to on that Thankgiving morning. At any rate when he was driving to work that morning around day break - he passed a man walking down the road (the location I will not reveal at this time because of JT). This man was carrying a small suitcase or satchel dressed in what I have been told was a "brown" jacket that seemed out of place in this area. I do not know why he didn't offer the man a ride? I do question that?" He may have been going in the opposite direction, because of the job location. Also he was NOT aware of the skyjacking that morning on his way to work. I figured he hatched the story at work after finding out about the skyjacking but, I now I doubt this was the case. This construction was on private land and a side job. The other party had spent the night at the construction site - and neither of them knew about Cooper until they got home that Thanksgiving evening. This particular locations was one I have screamed about for yrs and was told IT DID NOT EXIST, but it does. Even I discounted the story when I first heard it 10 yrs ago...I thought it was too far North. On my trip in Oct of 2011 - was when I discovered this place did exist and the walking along the road was NOT too far from a very very specific area I have described multiple times....I also realized in 2011 I had been there before. I have tried to explain how memory and time and space works. A place you have only visited one time 1979 - and was not the one behind the wheel of the vehicle - the memory to store all of this condenses time and space. It was only this last trip and being behind the wheel of a car - I realized this. My expensive trip in Oct. of 2011 is when I realized how my mind had compacted things. Everything I had described actually existed, but I had tried to make them all fit on one small portion of a map...when in reality they where spread out from area further N. and then S. to Washougal. Note because of JT I only say further N. and do not give specific locations. The additional information tonight was second hand from a related party and all this person could tell me. When I made the post I posed questions to myself, I had not thought to ask when this story was related to me in 2000 - 11 yrs ago. Putting something into words on a keyboard, I find often I did not ask or make notes of all of the conversation when I was contacted by individuals. The computer was new to me in 2000 and I did NOT have unlimited long distance yrs ago. Had I not related this story to the thread I may never have thought to ask the questions I posed about 3 hours ago on the phone. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jerry: You KNOW you have absolutely NO connections to the FBI agent on this case. You don't even know his name. If the FBI had information for Vickie - they would NOT communicate that information to you...but, to her personally. Maybe they have a print match as that is currently the only thing that would put her father on that plane. Why are you so worried about JO finding out. Remember I have been there and done that - I have been where Vickie is right now. Hopefully she gets some resolutions as to who and what her father was. I personally know what it is like NOT to know about someone's past. By the way Jerry - You were the topic of a discussion today with other individuals who are connected to the Cooper case. The conversation on the other end about you was not KIND. Seems like everyone thinks you are an individual with a serious problem....your ranting and raving and attacks on anyone who has an opinion not in agreement with your own have created problems in the past - seems like you have a few bolts loose...you are a loose canon ball. I am NOT the only one you have intimidated in the past. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I don't even qualify to give an answer to that one - since I have only been to 2 movies in 30 yrs and rarely see the credits when there is decent one on TV. All the old ones are deceased or too old to play Cooper. I see someone on TV and think - he would make a good Cooper, but never can find out who the actor was. Going to have to sell something to get all those Mekster Maps - this area encompasses a large area and they don't even know if all of the area was mapped in the same manner as Washougal. Then I have to have the records after 1980. Lots of Money I don't have. Now I just have to depend on all of those people who contacted me to figure out how we can get these records and the cheapest way to get them. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

One accounting I have is verifiable because he told the wife he was married to about this when he got home from work. His work obviously required he work on Thanksgiving Day. I suppose in some occupations that was NOT unusually in 1971. At any rate when he was driving to work that morning around day break - he passed a man walking down the road (the location I will not reveal at this time because of JT). This man was carrying a small suitcase or satchel dressed in what I have been told was a "brown" jacket that seemed out of place in this area. I do not know why he didn't offer the man a ride? I do question that? Also he was NOT aware of the skyjacking that morning on his way to work. I figured he hatched the story at work after finding out about the skyjacking but, I now I doubt this was the case. This particular locations was one I have screamed about for yrs and was told IT DID NOT EXIST, but it does. Even I discounted the story when I first heard it 10 yrs ago...I thought it was too far North. On my trip in Oct of 2011 - was when I discovered this place did exist and the walking along the road was NOT too far from a very very specific area I have described multiple times....I also realized in 2011 I had been there before. I have tried to explain how memory and time and space works. A place you have only visited one time 1979 - and was not the one behind the wheel of the vehicle - the memory to store all of this condenses time and space. It was only this last trip and being behind the wheel of a car - I realized this. My expensive trip in Oct. of 2011 is when I realized how my mind had compacted things. Everything I had described actually existed, but I had tried to make them all fit on one small portion of a map...when in reality they where spread out from area further N. and then S. to Washougal. Note because of JT I only say further N. and do not give specific locations. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I do NOT mean Deliberate distortion - but the angle and the lighting on the prison camera - all ONE has to do is look at the profile shot made at the same time the forward shot was made and then LOOK at the OUT take photos made 18 months later. It is obviouse that his NOSE was NOT as big as it appears in that prison photo or the photo in St. Pete. The Out take photos are full body and I have NEVER been able to get those to sized down to put on the thread. Since they were faxed to me in the first place - the quality when reduced become lined real bad. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, It stretches credibility that a supposed witness to Cooper being on the ground alive right afer the jump would be afraid to come forward in 2011 because the govt might take his land. The govt can seize land but unless it's part of a forfeiture in connection with a criminal conviction, they have to go through condemnation proceedings and pay compensation to the owner. 377 I was saying that many people did NOT come forward because of the Taking of Land in 1971 - NOTE: 1971! This man did contact the FBI in 1971 per my understanding. There are actual witnesses to the plane sitings still alive and this man who turned in a report in 1971. They ARE NOT going to submit themselves to the ridicule everyone who has come forward has been subjected to in recent yrs. Many of these individuals contacted Margie Boule and others in 2001 when articles on Weber and others suspects and the crime in general were being done. (That was the 30th anniversary). These individuals like myself gave up on the FBI yrs ago. I think it is time that an OFFICIAL FBI agent contacts all of these old witnesses before they die - BUT, you can bet it will never be done. The individuals won't talk to a writers, because their identities would be exposed and their lives destroyed just as other lives have been disrupted regarding Cooper. They may talk to THE OFFICIAL FBI agent ASSIGNED to the case in person (not a field agent who has no concept of the history of the crime) and with absolute confidentiality their names WILL never be exposed to the public. All the FBI has to do is look at the old files - the names are right there on the old reports - the witnesses stated the FBI agent did NOT take notes and wrote absolutely nothing down. I spoke with someone in the FBI about this and their explanation was that some individuals feel intimidated by pen and ink - (the notes where then taken after the interviews)!??!. I just do not swallow that story and I have more than one reason to state this. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber