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Bruce can be hard line when it comes to digging things up, but he is earnest and genuine about his passions. I met with Bruce while I was in Washington and he made a little venture with me. A certain party needs to back down. No more calling others liars or fantasy story tellers. As most of you know some of what was found on my trip to WA and OR in 2011 - has proven that what I described to others for yrs - (since 1996 actually does exist and in some cases did exist, but changed due to developement - 33 yrs of developement). Now that is just OLD business. Question of the WEEK! What did Mattie Finley and her nephew Harvey Hansen (or Hanson) have to do with a landing strip referred to a Fargher's Landing. What does Fargher's Landing have to do with Cooper? To refresh the mind of those who claim to know and those who really know - the above are individuals I had told the FBI about in 1996, but was unable to put names to these parties until 2010 after my 15 day costly trip. Certain parties (note plural) claimed these individuals did NOT exist until I found them myself (they are now deceased, but were alive in 1996). Now I am harvesting the bounty of my 2010 trip. Note - Those who claim a close alliance with the FBI are NOT really talking to the FBI. Again - the question: What does Mattie Finley and Harvey Hansen (Hanson) have to do with the Fargher Landing Strip. Where the business individuals departing from Fargher and the individual who left a car at the PDX - connected? That is a $200,000 question! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I will echo Blevins here - NOT if my life depended on it. YOU have absolutely NO idea what is getting ready to happen. When it does happen - JT - you are NOT part of it. I will also echo Blevins in another aspect of JT's life. When one cannot make one sentence on this thread using decent grammar and without forming a complete sentences - HOW in the HELL did you get a pilots license? I would NOT even want to on the ground anywhere near where you are flying. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

If that Pay scale was accurate and real - then Blevins doesn't have a thing to base Motive on. I don't have any tax reports for the 60's for my husband of the day, but I do have ALL of Duane from 1969 - and he and his wife made less than Christiansen and they had 2 other mouths to feed. Guess that blows one of Blevin's 25 Reasons. Also I heard the sale of Blevins book is really poor - but, that was from a 3rd party - I actually have NO knowledge of this myself....just reporting what I heard thru the Grapevine. The report was I think from a book store - (5 copies sold). Maybe that is the 5 copies Geestman bought! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

It takes a gold mine to feed an airplane. Good thing you have one Jerry. What kind of plane did you get? 377 A gold mine or a government pay-off for services rendered. That famous old statement. "You do this and we will take care of you." Now you know what the "others" are saying about you. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You do NOT understand my health problems. I am over 70 yrs old with an adult on-set of a disease that is very hard to handle. Add that to the normal problems of aging - and you have your handsful. You would love for me to go ahead and kick the bucket, but I have a mission to accomplish before I die - and I am doing everything in my power to stay here long enough to do this. I have had one surgery and now I have to have more, but I have NOT re-couperated from the surgery I had a few wks ago. Go to the bathroom and shove your damn words where they should be. (Folks I think I said that as nicely as any human being could, without being offensive). You call me a Liar, but others do not and now you are back here doing it again. I do NOT need the stress of your accusations when it has been proven you lied to me and to others. What your motive was - we can only guess about. The things you told me and others does NOT compute with FACTS - such as my hill that you claimed didn't exist. Many of your other accusations for which I have written and taped articles dispute your claims. Please note there are OTHERS involved in this now - who are visually aware of the documentations - so be very very careful. Also note that some of this was audio (such as the Radio Interview you refused to acknowedge). This is all OLD S--- that I do not need at this time to repeat it all, but just encase you have NOT been reading or have not been informed....you told too many lie to too many people and now they caught up with you. Deductions have been made as to your motives to do this. You do NOT want to know what some of those are - but the word you call me all the time - was said over and over - LOUD and clear with other accusations - such as COVER-UP. You and you alone have created so many stories that you do not remember what you told this person or that person....but, they were recorded in some manner. I personally didn't think you were smart enough to be part of a Cover-up, but others do. My label for you was what you have called me - but, could not tie down a motive. Now after all of these yrs and with the innovation of computers - this "thing" is catching up with you. There is a very specific difference between being impossible and trying to achieve the impossible, but you managed to achieve both of those simutaneously. That is a feat in itself, but not one you will be proud of when the truth is told. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The truth of US? Seems like this thread is where the pots and kettles call each other liars. What they don't realize is the fire underneath of them is a volcano that is getting ready to erupt and even cast iron can melt when it is exposed to enough heat. I suggest they cool it or be made into laughing stock pots. One thing for sure - I am not sitting under that fire - I built it. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

So Tired! This has been a very bad day. I wish the FBI would hurry up, but I don't think they are doing anything. The only thing that will get their attention is one of the $20 bills. NO ONE has really heard and if they did they didn't listen. The FBI is NOT investigating Cooper at all. It is a dead issue with them. They are fed-up with the Blevin's issues because he has been a thorn in their side. It is easier give him a neutral response than to say "We are NOT doing any more investigations in this case and Kenny Christiansen has NEVER been a viable suspect". Blevins has claimed in the past the FBI told him Duane was not a suspect, but that is NOT true. Duane Weber is more of a viable suspect than Christiansen has ever been. The FBI is no longer expending in monies or time on the Cooper case and as far as they are concerned the case is close to investigation processes until someone presents a Cooper $20 bill or puts their suspect on that plane. Blevins cannot put KC on the plane. I think I can put Weber on that plane - but, it will require some effort on the part of the FBI. I cannot just walk up to someone's door and accuse them of lieing to the FBI about what they found - and I cannot offer them immunity from prosecution. I also do NOT have the courage to confront one of the witnesses with something I have. I just do NOT have it within me to do this, but when one can see the handwriting in the clouds it is time to do everything one can do to accomplish their mission on this earth. If the Creator sees fit to help me make it back to WA - I have a job to finish. A visit to the Seattle office to speak with the AGENT in-charge of the case. A visit to the places I went to in 2010, plus a few others I didn't make it to. Then there are two more things I have to do. One will require the assistance of the FBI and the other is very personal. I think this finishes my WISH LIST. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You couldn't wait until I finished the post! Now go back and delete your post - and if you have to use "reply" it will at least be corrected with the composites attached. I was not asking a question, but now I will state that over the yrs and the few photos I have of Duane they go from angular to round and in between, depending on the angle of the camera and if he had gained weight and as he got older. The slanted forehead is very very difficult to sketch - and a person with a slanted forehead will appear differently to the viewer depending on the height of the viewer. I have some things I have done that show how this works, but file page is TOO large to put in the thread. I tried it one time - just doesn't work. I did them on Office - so they are large files. Using the attached - realize the hair is VERY VERY SHORT and I have had to relabel it since I have learned that shot was made in 1970 and not 1971. Put the sideburns on Duane and then put the fullness of the hair there. Take the composite with it shading and try to turn it - surely you have the software that will do this or talk to your FBI friends and see what they can do. With the turn and the slanted forhead - it goes from oval to angular and back. The bone structure is there. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger states to Blevins and JO; How Many Composites are there? 1. The Bing Crosby 2. The Ben Gazzara 3. The Old Roy Rose 4. The Shaffner TV Composite What other composites are out there. Each one of the above shows a different shape. 1.The Crosby is more angular than oval. 2. The Gazzara is oval and angular but discloses the slanted forehead as does number 1. The slanted forehead the artist depicted seems to be lost to individuals with who have had NO art or portrait training. 3. The Old Rose - the witnesses could NOT agree, because Roy Rose could not get the mouth in an acceptable rendering to satisfy Tina and Florence. 4. The Shaffner composite was an artist trying to unofficially create another composite because during the filming for the program - it is obvious the witnesses complained about the two composites in circulation. Otherwise they would not have used an artist to try to create another composite. The FBI artist Roy Rose was interviewed by another party on my behalf about 14 yrs ago. The artist indicated there was something he was UNABLE to depict to the satisfaction of the witnesses and the FBI used the generic composite. None of the witnesses concurred with the 1st composite. #1 The Bing Crosby I am posting 2, 3, and 4. I do NOT have the Bing Crosby on my computer since the witness were ADAMANT that composite looked NOTHING like Cooper during the production of the documentary in which the Shaffner composite was done. I will include another composite I uunderstand was a Rose Composite but the face seems fuller that the other Rose Composite and the mouth looks different. Can anyone explain that composite? It will be the last one and I will ID it as Old Rose. I believe the Old Rose seems to have been taken from a news clipping - and that created the sketchy appearance...but the two Rose Composites - as they were sent to me appear different. Perhaps this effect was created by the sender as it had to have been scanned from something. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, You can switch to cable or DSL and remain on AOL. Many former AOL dial up account subscribers have switched. AOL is FREE when you buy your Internet access service from another provider. You needn't keep living in the stone age of Internet service with dial up. In my area you can get budget DSL for $29 a month and it is waaaay faster than dial up. 377 The Free account wil NOT let you retain you email filing cabinet nor back it up. I discussed this with aol so I continue to pay my 23 buck a month and use the telephone line. Otherwise it is the 23 buck a month to keep the filing cabinet and then the 30 for the DSL - that is almost $60 just to keep the filing cabinet. I have all the emails pertaining to Cooper in that file - yrs of them. Some of it I printed, but there are many that I did not print. . Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins tell Georger Wave your own magic Wand and make all of your points become evidence. You can't. 1. Kenny Christiansen had hazel eyes and Cooper had dark brown eyes. 2. Kenny was balding and NOT one witness referred to Cooper as balding. 3. All of your witness could have come forward yrs and yrs ago and would have had they actually believed K C was Cooper. 4. It was not memories dancing in the minds of those you interviewed (your witnesses) but $$$$$ signs. 5. Kenny was an employee of N.W. and a current or former employee would have been too identifiable. 6. Your story keeps getting enhance - now you are explaining away the formica - with WHAT proof. 7. Coin collections grow and easy to acquire in small increments. Duane had a coin collection - so what! I have one coin worth several thousands of dollar (you didn't know this did you)? There are other coins, but I never had them appraised - just this one. 8. All of those mistakes you made about the Comic book - did you even credit the DZ about this? 9. Film rights - I believe it is option rights to develope a screen play. Film rights are usually only offered on a screen play and not a book. 10. If you can get 300K up front take it and run - because that is all you will get. I also had offers - but, I wanted more proof. I didn't want to do that without - the FBI coming forth with some hard evidence he was or wasn't Cooper - they never did either. 11. The FBI says Blevins has been out of the running for a long time - based on some of the above. 12. You have NEVER spoke with the agent of record...just desk agents (they hate it when I call them Mouthpieces). 13. Kenny wore a wig! Not one witness thought Cooper wore a wig. 14. Kenny did NOT have a ruddy complexion or latin complexion. 15. Kenny never confessed to being Cooper. 16. Kenny lived in the N.W. Did anyone ever comment about how Kenny hid in Plane site? 16. There was never any comments about Kenny having any bruises or cuts or injuries right after the crime. 17. If that group was so close and could remember all the details - would they not remember something like that. 18. Kenny was actually a sweet guy and he thought of the women in his life as sisters and good friends...he would never have denied them anything they requested. 19. Geestman will boomerang on you - he already has. 20. You never had to put up with Jerry hasseling you - because there was nothing to cover-up. 21. You never interviewed the witnesses (crew members) the individuals who count. You took someone elses word about what the co-pilot said. 22. You have taken Porteous's word for too much. He just wanted a writer to do his book when Geoffry refused. 24. Why did Geoffry walk on writing the book? What does he know you don't know? 25. Kenny had NO real motive to hijack the plane...what he made was NOT a bad salary in the day. Just Saying!

Jo, Let’s get some things straight: I have never altered or distorted ANY map published on my web site or posted on this thread. Never… EVER… If you can’t read a sectional chart, that’s your problem not mine. I did mean you altered the map but, there was a discussion in the thread where the PDX VOR and a bunch of stuff changed - Robert99 understood what I was talking about. The dates all of this changed and what the person who did the map intended. I couldn't make diddly squat out of the map when you guys put it on the thread - in parts if I remember correctly. If anyone has this map on a CD - I can find some place who can print it. I will appreciate it. I also need the dates on some kind of change of locations - where you guys talked about what was meant to be this - etc. It was all way over my head. I was unable to follow the posts at all. I want to understand what you were talking about - but, I have to have a map and a pilot who understands it to explain it to me and overlay it with regular map I can read - like some of the maps you acquired for me. This area is covered up with pilots who can help explain it to me. Geeze every cotton-picking paragraph started with I. Have tried not to do that - but, I am personally vested in this - because it was my husband who told me things and who claimed he was Cooooper. That puts me on different emotional level than you guys. Please try to understand my personal connection and how and why this takes away the objectivity you guys have. It is impossible for me to erase my memories and not be emotional. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I refused ALL pain meds after about 24 hours after my surgery. They provided scripts I never filled and dealt with it. I do NOT feel pain the way other people do and why my health situation got so drastic before they decided to go take a look see. As for the Dumb Blonde Syndrome - that has been going on since high school.....because I cannot tell a joke and I do NOT get jokes...they also call it Most Likely To Get Lost In A Crowd! I was in the Top Ten and part of the right crowd just a little naive. The title stuck! As an adult I was told "Dumb Blonde Syndrome" or "Are your roots Blonde?" It has always just been a joke and not an insult to those who do have Blonde hair - this is a left over from the 50's 60's expressions Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Because I have dial-up is what I have been told. One time his photos showed for me, but after that all I get are X's. I can't read any of the new articles he has posted. I have never seen what pictures of Duane he used. I was able to read the forums when Galen was posting...I could have posted, but chose to stay quiet and not get involved out of courtesy for Sluggo. Sluggo will tell you I am able to post - just didn't....because it was the right thing to do. Lots of sites you guys refer me to I can't get to. NO I refuse to give up my aol filing cabinet to be able to afford cable or whatever is required. I would rather use that MONEY to go back to WA and I AM GOING COME HELL OR HIGH WATER UNLESS THE FBI SHOWS UP AT MY DOOR WITH SOME ANSWERS. I haven't been able to get to the agent of record since Carr left - just the mouthpiece. The desk agent gave me a message of sorts that indicated something was going on (after I got back from my Oct. 2010 trip) and then the next call he didn't seem to remember what he said on the 1st call. When I got back from WA he indicated that I needed to "be QUIET for a few more weeks" "We have suspect on the radar we didn't have before and would not want any harm to come to you". There was some more conversation after that because I didn't understand why I should be "quiet". Then I waited about 3 months and called again - he said "these thing take time - a few more weeks". I waited and waited and then a few wks ago I felt enough time had passed and when I called he hung up on me. He was reading the usual things off the screen and then I believed he improvised with what I think may have got him in some hot water. I have no clue if the FBI has ever looked at the things I told them about (because I was telling the retired Himmelsbach - not the FBI office all of these yrs.) I do NOT do paper very well and I do not interview very well. I jump from one thing to the next before I forget it and the 1st question never gets answered. I can't stick with the question because when the other thing pops in my head if I don't bust out with it I will forget to mention it later. I will not give up until the FBI puts something in front of me that proves to me Duane was NOT Cooper and he was NOT involved. I need to know if the picture of the little girl and the book belongs to Tina. Why did he leave a Soldier of Fortune Mag in a safety deposit box I had no knowledge of? Why didn't the question the man who found the wallet better - why didn't they do a background check on that man? All of things Duane did and said - there is NO way all of these things fit the crime itself and afterwards. If Duane was planning this - it would have been very difficult to provide clues over a 17 yrs marriage that where consistent with a crime he never dreamt I would look into this deeply. NOT one word of my story is made up nor a fantasy nor a lie. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

BUT, the change was MADE AFTER the map was done for the 1971 incident. How did you verified what the intentions of the man who did the map? Conjecture and suppositions? How do you know exactly what he was mapping. I tried to read that map on the computer - but I have to have something I can HOLD in my hands. If that map was given to Sluggo - why can't the FBI provide me a hard paper copy of it? It has now become FBI released information so I want to see it and have someone else beside you and Sluggo tell me what that map means. Why did the media report per the map everyone used until 1980? Even after 1980 2 books where published using the OLD flight path the public was aware of and not this NEW one. By the way WHY don't you PICK up the phone and call Ratazak himself? Why use a 3rd party whose interpretation will be to benefit his subject. Now who does NOT do their own research. Yea, you bet I have a hair where it shouldn't be - because I got a lot to do in a short period of time and do not know how I am going to get it done. Sure don't want to die in jail in Seattle if the FBI has me arrested. Remember Carr's threat about my coming to Seattle? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Regarding my post stated here: Jo Stated: Where were you when they handed out brains. Don't you know she no longer lives in WA?Did I say I had interviewed her? I don't like maps!" Sailshaw stated: We all know that Blondes were not there for the handing out of brains! Sailshaw came back with this: "And yes I know Janet no longer lives at her house in Vancouver. Why did you think otherwise? I thought you had mentioned in one of your ramblings that you interviewed her in her home and therefore knew where she lived. I guess you really don't have her address at the time of the skyjacking! I don't know why I read what you post as it always goes no where and only brings more manufactured stories of your husband who was certainly not DB Cooper". Jo has this to say: Sailshaw! Somewhere along the line I thought I made a post stating you needed to go to the courthouse and check marriage certificates, divorce records, property records, parking tickets, etc. Then YOU would know what Janet's address was in WA. I also mentioned that Galen Cook does NOT have her old address. I couldn't find the post so maybe I had a SENIOR MOMENT. Sometime I make posts and then accidentally delete it. Manufactured Stories? YOUR story is manufactured. You knew Sheridan Peterson for 1 month and the man is still alive to defend himself (I hope) since the other poster seemed to be a Sheridan imposter. I find it ODD we get a Sheridan imposter after you came here to TOOT your story about Sheridan. It had to be someone who was unaware that you cannot have two posting ID's. We had others who tried this - and they were found out very quickly and banned. Perhaps it was just someone trying to pull a spoof, but I seriously do not believe it was Sheridan (did NOT sound and re-act the way Sheridan did). By the way the stories I tell I have been telling for 15 yrs - so I guess you never read the thread in its entirety, nor the closed thread, nor the unsolved mysteries. I guess I am MASS Producing Stories. Sounds like you have been talking to JT. My back-up paper work of 15 yrs and tapes - prove I am not manufacturing anything...I keep trying to get the FBI to really hear what I am saying...but, all I get is an echo. If I live long enough - they will hear me LOUD and CLEAR. P.S. Someone show me a post where I claimed to have interviewed Janet. That is BS or I am having serious Senior Moments. Tired of the Blonde Roots because some idiots take me seriously. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

ANYONE - Remember this post? Who decided at that time the map should be read this way or that way. A thread decides what the man who did the map was referring to? Was that the same map done in 1971 or a later version after 1980? The FBI just does NOT give out information like that. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

reply]Robert99 states: That STATEMENT is exactly what I am referring to. Suddenly someone decides yrs later that the reported route is incorrect and no one was reading the map correctly. Tell me something - the FBI doesn't give out information - so how did Sluggo get this map? And WHY after all these yrs is the map suddenly being interpreted differently? Wasn't there some discussion of if this map was actually based on what was and what is...NO one here knows exactly what the person who generated the map was referring to. Not unless you are the man who generated the map. Since the FBI "gave" this map to Sluggo - obviously you are not the one who created the map of the fight path. How can you know which the creator of the map was using - what is or what was. Myths versus Facts....I believe this thread has been invaded by nothing, but myth makers now or those whose only intent is confuse and dispurse. If the FBI is GIVING out information: Someone get a picture of the warehouse the car was supposed to be found at and who the car was register to and who the man was that rented it. There is NO way Duane could have known this or shown me this if nothing was every published about it other than just a paragraph in a book. WAS there ever a picture published about this so called place and was the man's name ever dislosed? The organization or the person has a connection to Weber and I will put money on that. Someone did find a picture of the warehouse or what they thougt was the warehouse - and put it on the thread. I want to see what the FBI has in their file. If the FBI is NOT going to investigate Cooper - then open the file to the general public. I am just too tired to continue this - so useless!. I would be better spending my time trying to get back to WA and just go to SEATTLE and stay until someone talks to me. After 15 yrs I deserve someone in the FBI office sitting down with me and actually hearing what I have to say - and to provide me with explanations. The more I stay at this the more it smells like a cover-up. Everyone is thinking this - and I am not sailing this boat by myself. Wish I had the money and was well enough to go back to WA right now and stay until I got all of it. If someone can provide me with place to stay for couple of months - I can do the ticket and see if I can rent a piece of junk to drive cheap for 2 months. I have people lined up to do somethings that have never been done, but none of this can be done unless I am there. I can tell someone something over and over, but sometimes you have to show them. I do know that some of the people I am talking about have been in the area for a long long time and some are retired from this very necessary occupation - all of their time is volunteered if I come after their work lays off...it is seasonal. There is work to be done in the county records office of several places - this alone will be time consuming...but first the field trip. Once we have that then the county records. Also remember the answer to WEBER lies in Cour d'alene, but the FBI doesn't want to acknowledge that. Who is connected to who? I had some long conversations with several people this week. Several people all going in different directions and NOW we are all going in the same direction. COVER-UP. Too much cologne usually means someone is covering up something stinky. Meier, Vegas, Ruby Ridge, Jerry Thomas, Richard McCoy, B. Thomas, Government Employees Ins. Co., Barry the prior owner and manager of the Fountain Bleu, a company out of TX connected to Hurand and Weber, Nichols and the list goes on and on. Knoss might not be so crazy after all! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robert99 states: Jo Replies: I am unable to down load anything in Sluggo's site or view any of the pics. There was map of the fight they worked with and then someone decided that something was not what it had been - I do not try to keep up with all of that. I refer to the orginal map before Sluggo and others made changes based on the name of something and hence they changed history. So was the old map correct? It was all in how they interpreted the map...there was a huge discussion about this on the thread. Until 1980 when the money was found the route was East of Portland and then the FBI saw their chance to bury Cooper in the Columbia...and hence all of the other garbage. The map was interpreted one way and then someone finds something and claims this thing made everything else wrong. ASK Sluggo about this or go back in the thread and read it...a bunch of stuff I felt was NOT logical so I stuck with what the media reported. No mention was made of the plane being West of PDX until after the money find. Robert99 states: I answered that in my post! Maybe my memory is having a Dumb Blonde moment - but, without going back I am sure I did. The flight was to the EAST of Portland and what I stated is what I was told by the man who sat behind the controls.. As for other sources regarding the flight path besides the above - I am simply referring to the articles in the newpapers and books that have been written (note I have only read - Norjack, a 97% fictional book by Max Gunther, Tosaw's book and now Nuttall's book). I have not wanted to contaminate what I did know, but I read those to see if what Duane told me fit anything he told me on that trip in 1979. No, I do not know who you are except that Sluggo brought you aboard. You came around when the Flight path was being debated....or a little before that. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jo, Sorry to disappoint you but we have been through this before. The airliner always reported it altitude as being 10,000 feet as it passed through the Portland area. The airliner was above several cloud layers and an overcast at that time. Neither Janet or anyone else on the ground saw the airliner. And no one on the airliner saw the ground in the Portland area. In addition, there is absolutely no support for a flight path over or east of the Portland airport. Why bother going east of Portland when the airliner could go west over relatively unsettled ground and take a short cut on its trip to Reno? Anyone who claims a flight path east of Portland needs to review the facts and then explain how everything fits together for such a route. In reality, it doesn't. Perhaps Sailshaw, the pilot, will get out his flight calculator and do some serious number crunching. If he does, then he might change his own mind about an eastern route around Portland. Robert Nicholson Robert: Even the official maps about the Flight put it EAST of Portland (I suppose that depends on what YOU call East of Portland). You must be Mole trying to sway the public and to declare the route made available to the public for 40 yrs is NOT correct. The plane made an Eastward turn up around Battleground - perhaps only slight but enough to put the plan EAST of PDX. Have you actually talked to the co-pilot? If so WHEN? When I spoke with him many yrs ago about the route - it was as I have stated. We spoke less than half dozen times in the last 15 yrs but, I could only ask questions according to landmarks. We only discussed the flight path - twice.....but, I never forgot one word. The flight path was in our 1st conversation and then another conversation within the last 2 yrs. So did YOU actually speak to the Co-Pilot about 10 yrs ago and then again in the last 2 yrs. So Robert you are saying that every newpaper report and tv station reported the flight incorrectly andyou can say 40 yrs later that NOT one of these individual heard or saw what they claimed...40 yrs ago. It was NOT until the money find that anyone suggested a Westwardly route...the FBI wanted to bury Cooper and get all of it behind them. The FBI basically did just that until 1996 when I reported what Duane told me and then because I caught the FBI in lies - I went public in 2000. Since then there have been multiple Cooper Wannabes to crawl out of the closet - fueled by the media and the internet. If you aren't a MOLE for the FBI just who and what is your interest in all of this? Yes, when one categorically states what you stated - then I suspect you of being something other than what you appear to be. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Do you mean "sitting witness"...? I'm not siting...I mean citing...all my qualifications...but will admit to being a high school dropout...I will also admit to having a paper from the gubberment that indeed proves I've had an original idea...but WTF is "siting"...? I'm easily confused with Anglish so would someone please explane what a "siting" is so I can get up to speed on this Cooper thing. Hangdiver - I just an old lady who makes mistakes in my spelling. I didn't think citing was correct, but siting seemed more right. So I stand corrected and it sure does make me sound ignorant and illiterate. As the kids say today - MY BAD. BY THE WAY it is supposed to be sighting. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevins states: Jo Replies: Blevins I never supported the story as reported by the media. I do believe she saw and heard a plane - but, there has been some liberties and/or engarnishments taken with her story. She may even have embellished the story herself in these 40 yrs. The only thing I SUPPORT is the fact her sighting is in-line with other sightings - although I would have thought the plane if it had drop in altitude as I was told that coming in near Vancouver they would have gone higher. Perhaps this was when they made that slight curve as the approached the Columbia River. Did you ever think the pilot might have been trying to knock Cooper Off? Knock off the stairwell or Knock Off - depending on who is telling the story. Blevins States: Jo Replies: We are ALL aware the Janet's Story has been embellished by herself and the media an others, but I do believe she saw the plane or another plane coming in for a landing at PDX. If the plane had not corrected its altitude on approach to PDX - it would have been in the way of take-offs and landings...but, I was under the opinion all take offs and landing where delayed until the 727 was out of the PDX airspace. This alone would have allowed the plane to be lower. Maybe the pilot was coming in low hoping for a visual around PDX or Troutdale...to verify Cooper was gone. Chill Out - Okay! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Now I know who is FEEDING the Bird. SUCKER! He claims not to know her address. I thought your statements and question sounded very very familiar. The PDX was NOT just North of her home. I have all of the sitings marked on a very very good map....maybe Galen doesn't know what the address was? I am a retired Real Estate Sales person and I am still licensed - I can get into files you cannot. Why don't you take the name she used and check the old phone records?????? Or do you just make like a Mocking Bird. Mocking birds become prey to others....a guise or disquise? Another thing you can do is check the county records for her name - births, deaths, marriage, divorce....this will lead you to more and more. Do your research and then post it. The Dodo bird (me) did. How many witnesses did you find that are still alive? I have several, but when the FBI agent came to their door - he did NOT have pen and paper and took no notes (the witnesses felt that was NOT a good thing and considered it strange). When I asked Ralph about this - he said "Some agents do not take notes because it makes the witness feel intimidated". I thought that was the weirdest statement he has made to me in the 15 yrs I have communicated with him. NO one ever expected me to find actual siting witnesses that are still alive. Note to Robert 99 There were sitings of that plane below 10K. I live between several bases - and I have been shown by pilots - just how high the planes are that pass over. North and East of the Lewis - the plane did drop in altitude and continued to do so until they approached East of the PDX swinging over toward Cames - they were trying to stay out of populated areas and they had to be clear of the PDX air traffic. ,,which took them right over Troudale Industrial and the airstrip there. (Don't forget the sitings in that area). Maybe it was other aircraft going in and out of PDX...but the 727 had to say above then and out of the way. The siting in the Heisson area definitely were low - 5K to 6K. The clouds where there, but the plane sounded like a plane in trouble it was so low. - thru the layers of clouds they they could see lights above. I told the man the plane was probably higher because the layered cloud coverage - might give one the allusion of the plane being lower. He wouldn't bite on that and said swore it was NOT over 5K (sound and lights) - this is North East of Battleground. Sitings in Hiesson also claim the plane was lower. The sound was NOT that of the chase planes like Himmelsbach tried to tell one of the witnesses - she knew the sound of the small fast crafts versus a 727. I know the difference in the sound coming thru my area. 5 bases and 2 airports not counting all of the small private strips. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Sailshaw stated: You think the jump was into great peril, then you don't understand the Smoke Jumping experience that Sheridan had (into forest fires). I think as I have posted before that the jump was on to cleared land along the Columbia river and within walking distance to PDX airport. He probably was to his car (he parked at PDX) before midnight and was on his way. It was a cakewalk of a jump and that shows how smart Sheridan was and how planning the caper for ten years has "beat the system". Georger, take your blinders off and let us expand our thinking in this dropzone. We should use Synergy and not spite. Bob Jo States: Dear Sailshaw, NOW, I know who is feeding the bird (you) that is singing. You need to WISE up - become an Owl. All the Owl will say is WHO WHO WHO! Perhaps Cooper landed in cleared land - and maybe it was in walking distance of the Columbia. What you NOW, have to figure out is how he got 30 miles undetected by others. You see only I know the answer to that one...and someone wants you to get it out of me. There was a vehicle left near a storage building near the airport...the FBI claimed this belonged to a business man who left it there - but, the business man was NEVER identified to the public. WHO did the car belong to and was it a rental? Who rented the car and what was his business in the area? I have even attempted to tell the FBI names of individuals the car may have belong to - I never got past the "mouthpiece" about that. Agent Carr had NO idea what I was talking about - and this meant that the messages I gave the "mouthpieces" over the yrs were never given to the agent of record. My communication were by telephone and I didn't own a computer until 2000. I STILL want to know the last name of that business man and the name of the Company he represented. I do know that Duane took me to some warehouses near the airport and pointed this place out and told me that he knew someone who left a car there. If the FBI has a picture of that car and the warehouse it was infront of - how would Duane know this.... I have told them it was like storage buildings and looked like garage doors and the building was white. Did the FBI ever make public exactly where the car was and did they every show a picture of the warehouse in the newpapers? Is that HOW I know this? Is it a false memory created by a picture and a story about the car? I tried to find that warehouse when I was out there, but the growth and changes around the airport area made that impossible. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber