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could the tweeter be some of the 17 million fake CNN follower accounts? You will jump at anything I guess now. I guess that is what desperation does to a person.... "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

If it was Trumpcare no one would have to ask. The media would make it up if they had to. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I never claimed them to be the law of the land. They do however show how activist courts make up intent to be what they want it to be. School students are stopped from praying today. It is illegal to do so but it happens regularly. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

The Federalist Papers show the intent and have been used in supreme court cases to show the intent In some schools you can't. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Sadly we do no have this today. Too many "groups" trying to carve out special considerations for themselves under the law. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I posted a link ... "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

As I understand it, the issue is when the school is organizing the prayers. Nothing should stop individuals from praying or even groups of students. I don't recall if there were organized prayers at school events when I was there, maybe sporting banquets, but I'm not sure. Grade schools are now fairly devoid of school sponsor religious events/services but many colleges are not and some of those take federal dollars. I see no issue with that as long as those schools equally support all religions. There are examples all across the board (see the link). The one I was remembering stopped a student from praying as she gave a graduation speech. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=court+stops+student+from+praying+at+gratuation&spf=1499265632284 "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

None. It is nothing more than the old, 'Hey, look over here,' when you have nothing else. Jerry Baumchen PS) And for his comment about prayer in school. One can still pray in school. The court ruling was that people cannot be forced to pray. Wrong on both counts At least you are consistent...... "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Another view on the topic from Oxford. http://americanhistory.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780199329175.001.0001/acrefore-9780199329175-e-29 "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Know this, I fully support the separation of church and state. And for the most part I do not think the sides that debate this are far apart. That said, both sides push to take the results of their positions further. At this time I think we have moved further to the side of those would not even allow prayer is schools. Not everyone is going to agree on everything. But this does not mean that we move to full exclusion of what one side believes because of the wishes of others. We freedoms must come tolerance for other beliefs. Sadly we are not doing this today. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

The following is from History.com. The 85 essays expressed the intent of the different articles in the proposed new Constitution and shows how the arguments were crafted to protect freedoms from government overreach. We are seeing court overreach today. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

It does not matter what those papers say. They are not law. However, the 1st Amendment is Law. The ignorance of US history and the founding of this country is more than evident in your post here. Do you know what the federalist papers are and what they represent when looking at the construction of the US Constitution? I doubt it..... "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

There are plenty of countries around the world who are moral, good, whatever, without the influence of Christianity or any religion. Believe it or not there is morality without referencing Bronze Age Middle Eastern Mythology. Which has nothing to do with what our founders said. And none of those countries, even today, have the levels of freedom seen here in the US. THAT is a big difference! We will only stand as a country if we follow our laws. That means everyone! And to do this we must have some moral standard we all live under. (NOTE: that standard can be and is very broad) We are NOT seeing this today. I think you can agree with that. And I did not say Christian religion. I said religious morality. There were also statements made in this thread that insinuated that people came here to get away from religion. They really came here (in general) so they could practice religion as they saw it. That is a big difference. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Actually, it's Christians who act all butt hurt when they feel the social power slipping from their hands. Ignorant is those who refuse to see with their eyes wide open. And this post proves it! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

And the Law makes that quite clear. No, it does not. If one takes the time to read the Federalist papers it is clear that the founders did not want a state sponsored or favored religion. They also never intended to exclude religion from government! What you see as, "very clear", is the directions the courts have taken. Many of the founders were also very clear when they stated that laws that do not have the backing of a religious morality will never stand! We are seeing the impact of this daily. Now we will see the normal argument against this taking this position to the extremes. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

AP admits lie [url]http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/01/associated-press-admits-it-published-fake-news-about-president-trump-and-russian-ties/ "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

It is happening. It happened in the US and in the UK; now China has stepped up as we abdicate the lead. ====================== China Is Now Home To The World's Largest Floating Solar Power Plant 31/05/2017 While the US continues to shirk its carbon-cutting responsibilities, China continues to showcase to the world why it is set to become the de facto leader on climate change advocacy. Its coal use is finally flatlining, it’s investing heavily in both nuclear and wind power, and now it’s now home to the world’s largest floating solar farm. Sungrow Power Supply announced this month that they have finished construction on a 40-megawatt solar power plant, which is sitting on a somewhat appropriate setting. The area was once a coal-mining town, but it’s since been flooded. ======================= The End of Coal Is Near: China Just Scrapped 103 Power Plants A huge win for the environment. 19 JAN 2017 China has announced plans to cancel more than 100 coal plants currently in development, scrapping what would amount to a massive 120 gigawatts (GW) of coal-fired electricity capacity if the plants were completed. For a bit of context, the entire US has approximately 305 GW gigawatts of coal capacity in total, and this massive adjustment leaves room for China to advance its development of clean, renewable energy. ======================== Opps Not so fast..... https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/07/03/forget-paris-1600-new-coal-power-plants-built-around-the-world/ "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Ignored by our leftist media... http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/40-instances-violence-or-violent-rhetoric-left-trump-was-elected "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

So, I thought I would take a page from your (and kallend's) tactic book. You like this study as you posted it here. Must be true in your mind. However, had their conclusions been at odds with your faith you would have posted something like the following in reply. John P. Abraham One of the co-authors of this study has what qualifications? Is he a climate scientist, a meteorologist? Nope He is a mechanical engineer who an activist who writes political commentary for the Guardian and is a 97% consensus baiter. Plenty of discrepancy in that study. Was good for you though..... "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/29/toxic-waste-from-solar-panels-300-times-that-of-nuclear-power/ "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

First off bill, I agreed with the majority of the original post of this threat. That said, the government of this country has no business sticking its nose in to the wages paid by the private sector. For you to say that it didn't work or doesn't work it's just plain an opinion on your part because there's too much evidence to the contrary. It is what it is Sir "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

How about we just let the market take care of it? And keep the government nose out of our business. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Another story following the theme of your thread [url]http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2017/06/29/maine-restaurant-workers-successfully-lobby-to-lower-minimum-wage.html "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

".... just a big nothing burger." http://breaking.projectveritas.com/cnnpart2.html "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I have this image of you sitting at a computer somewhere, laughing hysterically every time something about science comes up. I have always thought alarmist were delusional. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln