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I see you still don't understand the difference between a single observation and a trend. So posting that only 2% of mass shootings are committed with AR-15s does not recognize a trend? We also know that in very recent school shootings the most fatalities came because of pistols. Are you going there next? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

You know what's great? To finally see a leader, the president, who is addressing the real issue. Who's sitting and listening to the people and putting forward common sense proposals to help avert this from happening again. Public schools are one of the few public places where we do not have security today! Hell Hollywood stars have more security than our schools do. I'm getting tired of listening to the idiots who think that the law abiding people are the one who need to be punished. The law-abiding are the ones that need to have their guns taken away. That somehow guns in this country is a problem. No it's not! What's been happening to this country's been happening for the last 70 years and it's being pushed by the left. There are solutions to take care of this issue. Limiting guns to law abiding people is not it "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

That's pretty weak! Even for you. And by the way, you did know that AR15s are used in less than 2% of the shootings in this country correct? Sorry. I doubt it. Cuz you don't care. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Hey Dan. I'm replying to you because somehow you've determined that you are the Arbiter of what is normal! Not! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

And again nobody's replied to what has been the largest number of people killed in a school massacre ever in this country. And that happened in 1927 in Michigan. Did we have any AR-15s then? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

The easy access makes it MUCH more likely someone can act on a really bad idea before any intervention can occur. The rest helps ensure that carnage is maximized. And yet the biggest school shooting in recent history had nothing to do with any long guns or an AR-15. You guys really are losing it "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Hey! I just want to know the name of the woman he admitted assaulting? Of course you won't be able to come up with that name because there isn't one. He was making the generic comment about what he thought he could do. He didn't admit to doing anything. The mischaracterization and lies that continue on subjects like that are disgusting and destructive. Congratulations "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

The saddest part is that you will blindly believe crap like this. You think CNN is a biased echo chamber and then parrot Ann Coulter. You are seriously your own parody. The largest mass School murder happened in the US in 1927. Do you know what incident that was? I doubt it. I do not follow and Coulter often. As a matter of fact I rarely read her stuff. But this piece Rings true in many ways . And anybody that believes CNN is even close to Center is delusional Beyond description. And I am thankful the people like her can speak. I am sad and upset it's CNN, George Soros and all the other left groups coming in and using the school children in Florida to trying to advance a political agenda. It is sad disgusting and Despicable! And they will be thrown aside when their usefulness is done by CNN and all the rest. We've seen it happen in the past. And it's coming again. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I agree! It is great that the kids are exercising their free rights. The sad thing is they're being used by the left. Funded by George Soros and others to put on a spectacle at CNN another TVs shows use. When their usefulness is over they will be thrown aside just like everybody else the left is used. In the meantime... http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-02-21.html#read_more "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

People like him and you not responding to me keeps this site just a bit more on the sane side. So I thank you!

No, that is CNN It leads the left wing echo chamber. CNN is barely left of center. Their main sin is trumping up news items unfairly. MSNBC is much further left. If you really believe that, then I just came to understand a bit more how unhinged the left is really getting these days. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Only if she colludes with the Russians, which we now know she did. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Counterargument CNN is now as reputable as a drug dealer that deals to 12 year olds. Please, stop making yourself look ridiculous by posting anything from them! So you're saying that isn't an accurate depiction of the election results? I see you are another graduate of Bill's school of twist What I AM saying is anyone who pays any attention to CNN is deep in the eco chamber of lies. What they (CNN) are doing with the FL kids is despicable. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Counterargument CNN is now as reputable as a drug dealer that deals to 12 year olds. Please, stop making yourself look ridiculous by posting anything from them! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Well, you have to remember that is what he thinks they said. Considering his links often don't say what he claims, I'm not too surprised. October, 2016. I can't copy the link for some damn reason but you can do the YouTube search. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

There is no way of knowing that one way or the other. Stating that we clearly know they didn't is just as wrong as stating we know they did. If the Russians were able to mobilize people to protest, which we know they have successfully done, it isn't too far-fetched to assume they have changed a mind here or there. Whether they changed enough minds to affect the outcome of the election is impossible to ascertain. We do know they very much focussed on swing-States. There's also the very simple fact that it doesn't matter whether or not their actions affected the outcome (although it's almost a certainty that they were one of many factors). The actions of the Russians, the subterfuge, the fabrications and falsehoods, what they did and how they did it, were illegal. We also need to realize that US citizens can do the exact same thing, which they did, and it's legal, because they are citizens. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

There is no way of knowing that one way or the other. Stating that we clearly know they didn't is just as wrong as stating we know they did. If the Russians were able to mobilize people to protest, which we know they have successfully done, it isn't too far-fetched to assume they have changed a mind here or there. Whether they changed enough minds to affect the outcome of the election is impossible to ascertain. We do know they very much focussed on swing-States. The Muller team just said that the Russians did not affect the outcome of the election. Obama also said it would not be possible for the Russians to affect the outcome of our election. Have you not been paying attention? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Rush's answer: ***If it happened I do not like it. So no, you clearly haven't always agreed that the Russian's meddled/interfered. Again, and I'll go slower so maybe you can keep up this time, the context is whether or not the involvement of the Russians affected the outcome. We clearly now know they did not. But I've also stated in many threads that we know they've been interfering for decades. Just as we interfere in other countries decades just as Obama blatantly interfered in Israel's elections. So get over it. You're wrong "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

They are not as far apart as the data you would use might suggest. That said, I don't give a damn about any other country. You press a straw man argument. So again, and regardless of what you give a damn about and I said nothing about the amount being profoundly different and purely an academic question: Why do other developed countries not have as much of a problem (per capita) as the United States? Post your comparisons. Otherwise, you go nothing! Gun related homicides in high-income countries per 1 million people 2010: South Korea: 0 Japan: 0 UK: 0 Netherlands: 2 Spain: 1 Hungary: 1 Ireland: 4 Australia: 2 Germany: 1 New Zealand: 2 Italy: 2 Sweden: 2 Denmark: 2 Slovakia: 2 Portugal: 5 Norway: 0 Czech Republic: 1 Belgium: 3 Canada: 5 France: 2 Austria: 2 Finland: 3 USA: 36 Gun related suicides and unintentional or undetermines gun deaths in high-income countries per 1 million people 2010: South Korea: 0 Japan: 0 UK: 2 Netherlands: 3 Spain: 5 Hungary: 8 Ireland: 6 Australia: 8 Germany: 10 New Zealand: 10 Italy: 10 Sweden: 13 Denmark: 14 Slovakia: 16 Portugal: 13 Norway: 18 Czech Republic: 17 Belgium: 15 Canada: 18 France: 26 Austria: 28 Finland: 33 USA: 66 Here's another for 2012: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts And here are charts for us compared to the worst countries and 3-rd world countries (AKA Shitholes) many which are fully embroiled in drug wars: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/11/06/562323131/gun-violence-comparing-the-u-s-with-other-countries See how you frame the issue? "Gun related" Means exactly nothing. Give us the murder rate per 100K in those counties. That gives us an apples to apples comparison. If not, you still got nothing. It is not the tool dude. And it never will be. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Why do you keep lying? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Incidence of mental health issues is no greater in the US than other western countries. With the differences in reporting rules you have NO WAY of making that claim with any confidence!!! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Always have I just proved Bill made the same lying comment in another thread No you haven't. Here are some posts where you are clearly not sure if it happened: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4829686#4829686 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4827483#4827483 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4827938#4827938 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4827976#4827976 you get so lost in context. What I was referring to, what I was not sure about, is whether Trump was assisted. I have posted many times that other countries have meddled for decades. As we have in theirs. Most of your links prove you to be off base as well. Thanks! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

They are not as far apart as the data you would use might suggest. That said, I don't give a damn about any other country. You press a straw man argument. So again, and regardless of what you give a damn about and I said nothing about the amount being profoundly different and purely an academic question: Why do other developed countries not have as much of a problem (per capita) as the United States? Post your comparisons. Otherwise, you go nothing! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

They are not as far apart as the data you would use might suggest. That said, I don't give a damn about any other country. You press a straw man argument. HAHAHAHAAHAA!! I've never seen someone create a "straw man" argument just by saying it's that because you don't care about the differences in the comparison. You can't answer the question with facts and valid points that support your views. You do not have facts. I know the comparisons. You did not post any!!! You have your opinions. Period! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

You're welcome. They have some really good deals on that site which is sort of a search engine for gun deals. About a year ago someone was selling complete Daniel Defense Ar-15's for $700. But you really have to watch the fine print. Some cheap AR's have "polymer trigger groups". Then others sell used police Glocks as "store demo's" or "counter display's". AR's have really come down. So many people were buying them at higher bucks thinking they were going to make money when Hillary got elected. Trump got elected and people were holding rifles like those you posted about, that they had spent $1000 on and now are only worth what you showed us. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln