rushmc

When someone starts a debate from a false premise, such as you have here, there's nowhere to go. The special counsel by law was designed to investigate a known crime. There is no known crime. I simply pointed out that while people jump up and down and scream about Trump Russia collusion they ignore known Clinton Russia collusion and all her other crimes. there's no having a logical discussion with those who think that somehow the only reason Trump is President is because he colluded with Russia. I believe there's more coming out soon. I do know there is info coming out daily. Much of it you don't get. And I don't mean that you don't get it. I mean you simply don't get that information. Everything you scream about what I do in my mind is simply projection on your part. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

They do not want to understand what you say. The big stick used by the left, and maybe they only one they have left, is to scream racism. It's telling that you both have to ignore what was actually said, about legal immigration and multiculturalism, in order to defend it. Almost as if you both know she really was being racist... Not ignore it, understand it. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

They only problem I see Wendy is many of the changes being pushed on US citizens is being done by non-elected non-accountable bureaucrats. EPA, OSHA Dept of education, the so called consumer protection bureau and on and on. I am hopeful that our current supreme court may take a look at this as many of them have commented on the case law that let this bs happen. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

They do not want to understand what you say. The big stick used by the left, and maybe they only one they have left, is to scream racism. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I'm open to changing that. I did a poll and most people voted to keep things the way they are now (i.e. use a very narrow definition of troll.) Thus I didn't change anything. However, this really isn't the place to discuss whether those changes should happen, because some people will see that as an attack on them. If you like, you can post a suggestion in the Suggestions forum; that will get some less-personal debate going about it and I can bring that to the other mods if there's a clear request for a new direction. I am one of a very few that have not been driven away by the vitriol of the posts I receive daily. I guess if the rules are going to changed this site can follow what twitter, youtube and facebook are doing. And that is to silence those with whom the left disagrees. You have put me in time out more than once. And more than once you have done that only because I copied another's post to me. A great example of that is the last warning you issued to me. I am only called a troll here because I hold to my beliefs and I am not beaten into submission by those who would silence me. Most of the time what makes them the most upset is I return to them exactly what they do to me. It seems that because they see themselves as superior, I suppose, they can't handle it. What ever will be will be. But those now getting more and more upset I think can see that this so called investigation is a hoax and is not and will not go anywhere. Also, we would have seen similar if it had been any other person elected on the Republican side. It is now what the left and its media does "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

At this point I consider your points and posts at the same level of kallends. Which means for the most part I will no longer read them. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I stopped reading your post at this point. I hope you enjoy your alternate world. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

You really need to stop watching CNN. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Took me awhile to decode that. It means "sombody's ire". Gotta love speech to text! Do you understand the concept of checking and editing before sending? Nothing to decipher I just didn't proofread "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

by the way, at the end of your post you say something about me taking offense. That is so far from being anywhere near reality you can't even understand it. I do not give you the power to offend me. You aren't anyone near close enough to me to even have the power to do that and you never will. Neither will anybody else on this site. I am passionate in my beliefs but I don't get offended. Cuz I will not give you or anyone else that power. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Marc seems to have some sort of learning and communication disability. Except in crowds, or internet forums, people like him are sort of harmless. Take away his bull horn and he's back to being a frustrated nobody. He'll never be dissuaded from a single wrong opinion because he is finally on a winning team and that justifies everything. Like Marc, I'd bet that most of the droids at Trump rallies couldn't organize a three person marble game if two of us showed up and also brought the marbles. I believe the best defense against people like Marc is to disperse them: when alone they are mostly silent. Here he has an audience. He can tell Professors they are poor thinkers and then run away with a flag like it's touch football. Surely all can now agree that it is obvious Marc will never give an inch much less a straight answer. So why bother? That’s where you're wrong, people like Rush are the people that got Trump elected. They feel embodied by him because Trump is one of them. I can almost guarantee Rush would rather have Trump admit to openly working with Putin to get elected because that means Hilary and democrats lost. Democrat is a four letter word to thes people. Even calling them these people is part of the problem. They have felt left behind for too long. They finally come out of there holes and latched on to trump. The America they knew when they were younder is gone. Trump promised to bring it back. They are loud, they are ignorant, and worst is they vote while uninformed. The public education system failed them, the news failed them, and they likely work in fields that are echochambers. This does apply to all trump supporters, but it does apply the the most hardcore trump supporters. you people don't understand Trump. You don't understand why he got elected. You are so far from being anywhere near correct regarding me that it's not even explainable! if you really understood what was going on in politics today you'd be supporting Trump too. It isn't the Republicans or the Democrats that are fighting each other here, it is the establishment politicians and somebody from outside. Somebody from the outside cannot come in and be successful or their days are numbered and they know it. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

excuse me Bill, I only posted the word he used and called it childish. I have not been calling people names. I rarely do that here. Even the one I replied to admitted the same. At this point I think you owe me an apology "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

well that was a nice bail on your part. You're doing nothing of the kind. You're using childish name-calling tactics to try and raise somebody Zaire. Sorry, didn't work on me. Now go stick your nose in the corner for 10 minutes "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Snowflake You are very good at the childish tactic of name calling. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Time to move the goalposts. I'll bet Rosie O'Donnell is your poster child to isn't she... "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Mueller is an establishment person no different than George will. This is not about Republican or Democrat to them. This is about them keeping their power. Nothing less. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

she is a felon. Not just a convicted one yet. Had the bullshit she did Gone to court she'd be in Stripes right now but that was not going to happen because she was being protected by the doj and the FBI. That's clear. There is more coming out tonight. All you need to do is search the public record. You can't defend her anymore even if you want to "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

That's quite a statement. I must have missed where Hillary was convicted of some crime. Please provide a link. Or are you making shit up again? We know at a minimum she committed 131 felonies. That's a fact. You can't change that. She had set up a non-governmental email server and it had classified material on it. After the Bill Clinton tarmac meeting the justice department could no longer handle it so Comey took over. they hated Trump so they exonerated Hillary. We have a two-tier justice system now. If you are a chosen Democratic Presidential nominee you can commit no wrong and you will be protected. Except she couldn't win the election could she? all of this that I am putting out there is in the public record. But it's not on the news sites that you watch. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

They also said on more than one occasion that the interference had no effect on the outcome of the election!!! So you good thing you have a thick skull the way you're banging it against the wall "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Dotard Game over. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

As the expression goes, if you're going to be stupid, you better be tough. And if you're going to be a rabid anti Trumper the line from Forrest Gump comes to mind. Stupid is as stupid does. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Bill's twisting we've rears its ugly head again! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I have to admit it. Your signature line clearly spells out your position. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

So you're okay that a felon should be protected so she could become president. Got it. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

okay, so you prove that with Trump there's nothing to defend. There's no there there. Which is been said by most of those at the FBI and the doj "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln