rushmc

From Fox news - YOUR preferred media outlet: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/04/26/how-to-store-guns-safely-in-your-home/ So I think you just called the NRA 'anti-gun nuts' which would be hilarious if you weren't demonstrating all the signs of being one of those nutters with a gun.... In your world? I am sure I am a gun nut In my world, you are a radical who wishes to insert themself into everybody elses business. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Actually I point out the hypocrisy You and others hear scream when you think that others should butt out when it comes to a womans body and choices, and what is done in people bed rooms is none of anyone elses business Well, I think the same when it comes to my house Get the fuck out and stay out "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Desperation sir "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Hmmm too many voted for Obama Can we PLEASE get a rolling eyes emoticon just for rushmc's posts? Dont you just hate it when the wide brush is slapped back at ya??? I mean come on Everyone now knows that anyone who voted for Obama is an idiot! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Go slap your wide brush at someone else "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Hmmm too many voted for Obama "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I don't disagree, but am interested in the reasoning behind that statement. Is it because theft is illegal, or because you believe locking it inside the house is prudent enough? No one in our close family has believed that a closet or the old school glass display case that might be lockable.. or a gun rack on the wall is sufficient to keep our little folk from being curious OR from a possible burglar break in for at least 50 years. Gun safes are just not that expensive... if you can afford the gun/guns.. you better be able to afford a decent gun safe. It seems to have worked.. we all are lifelong members of the NRA and shooting competitions and hunters and not one single "accident" of shooting a family member or a young person playing with a weapon and shooting a sibling or a friend nor a burglar stealing any weapon although several cousins have had breakins and no weapons were lost. Ownership comes with inherent responsibilities... just as the founding fathers knew. And I have been to dozens of homes with the glass storage cabinets in the last 40 years and guess the hell what NOT A DAMNED ONE OF THEM has ever has any kind of incident Responcible gun ownership is not fucking defined by you or your ilk And it is a hell of a lot more than just storage Keep your damned nose out of my business and my house! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Agreed "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Yet taking an object from a locked house, an unlocked house or an open, private yard are all theft. Hence, you do clearly believe that as an owner you bare some responsibility for some one stealing your gun and using it for nefarious purposes. You just draw the line at "locked house". What right do you have to tell me what I have to do with my objects in my house? All my other valuable stuff is protected by that locked door. I see locking my door as a reasonable precaution Anti gun activists whould have us go further and have another level of precaution regarding guns Linking these all together to just call a theft a theft is a dishonest argument Locked doors don't stop a determined burglar. A locked door AND a wireless burglar alarm with warning signs posted does a much better job. I should know. Not one attempted break-in since the alarm was installed. I have the same But I did not install it just because of guns "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Knives are also a target of criminals, designed to kill and maim even when used properly, easy to conceal, fascinating to children, and even a three year old can stab themselves with one. The rules for the safe storage of different items of death and injury should be appropriately argued out not biased because you are a liberal anti-gun rights activist. Activist lol. You and rush certainly like to throw the labels out there. Does that make it easier to google a response? Guns are much more effective killing tools. If you don't believe me, bring a knife to the next gun fight and let us know how it works out for you. LOL So now the "someone cant think for themselves" shot. Priceless "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

***Linking these all together to just call a theft a theft is a dishonest argument lol Some logical honesty going on there. You seem to be getting tired of getting whooped on here why dont you just back away? You call that whooping? No wonder you need a gun lmao I will back away though, you seem like the guy who would shoot some one in the back. Ooooo Well I do not need a gun I do have them however And regarless of your bs statement Your back is safe And would even be covered if need be Slick PA by the way "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

So you have an opinion you would push on others I say it depends on where you leave it laying around If it is on my coffee table it is none of your damned business "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

***Linking these all together to just call a theft a theft is a dishonest argument lol Some logical honesty going on there. You seem to be getting tired of getting whooped on here why dont you just back away? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

so as soon as you get those laws passed for lettuce and tithium batteries come on back (I shudder to post that as this is something a liber would do if they could) As for you point Bull shit when I am out in public then yes, there should be some rules but not in my house I would not advocate leaving the guns laying on a coffee table when kids are around but I know that is not the case in Chicago where those people are shooting themselves up every day Just so you know I do lock my guns up But not because of laws and busy bodies like you They are valuable Like money So I make them as hard to get as I resaonbly can Not for the reasons you list So, you have NO right to dictate what that level should be in my house Now get the hell out! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Not in my house You stay the hell OUT OF MY HOUSE!!! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

BTW This is careless neglegence and has NOTHING to do with storage Please Stay on target as any storage laws and or requirments would not stop someone that breaks basic safety rules when the gun is in his hands "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

When a car has no headlights, breaks or horn it is broken Different argument "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Yet taking an object from a locked house, an unlocked house or an open, private yard are all theft. Hence, you do clearly believe that as an owner you bare some responsibility for some one stealing your gun and using it for nefarious purposes. You just draw the line at "locked house". What right do you have to tell me what I have to do with my objects in my house? All my other valuable stuff is protected by that locked door. I see locking my door as a reasonable precaution Anti gun activists whould have us go further and have another level of precaution regarding guns Linking these all together to just call a theft a theft is a dishonest argument "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Thieves don't obey laws against theft anyway, so what's the point of laws against theft? How about carry permits Which more and more states are doing away with and have had no ill effects from those changes "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

If you left your gun in your front yard overnight and somebody took it to rob a corner store, you do not think you should bare any responsibility? If you left your car parked in your drive way, with the keys in it. A drunk steals it and runs someone over. Do you think you should bare any responsibility? I take it your answer is no then. I disagree, I do believe the owner bares some responsibility in that scenario. And all objects are simply not the same, nor are all locations. Specifics matter. you take it wrong When a level of neglegence is involved everything changes If I leave a loaded gun in the yard there is a level of neglegence involved. Not the same if I leave that same loaded gun in my locked house. As for the car The insurance company will not cover your loses if they find out you left the keys in it while on the street so I guess those companies at least disagree with you And I feel if you think the gun owner bares some respoinsibilty for the gun in the yard it is somewhat hypocritical of you saying the car owner should be treated differently In a locked garage? Then it all falls on the thief. What if you left a knife in the yard and some kid finds it and injures another kid? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

But this is not what we are talking about now is it. We ARE talking about a fully functional, will work as designed fully construction object. You want to be able to come into my house and dictate what I must do with that object based on what might or could (but most likely never will) happen. So, this car is fully functional and everything works and it can go faster than the speed limit at any given time You need a ticket dude This is YOUR logic I am just following it through! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

How about you leave a bat laying in your front yard overnight Someone steals it and beats someone to death with it Should you bare some responsibility? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

If you left your gun in your front yard overnight and somebody took it to rob a corner store, you do not think you should bare any responsibility? Another set up If you left the keys in your car in your locked garage. Someone steals it and runs over someone. Should you bare any responsibility? I WILL directly answer your question but, I want to see where you are coming from first. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

If you left your gun in your front yard overnight and somebody took it to rob a corner store, you do not think you should bare any responsibility? If you left your car parked in your drive way, with the keys in it. A drunk steals it and runs someone over. Do you think you should bare any responsibility? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

If the foo shits! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln